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Androgynous Daemon Prince of Slaanesh





Devon, UK

Well, the first episode is out in the wild, how are people finding it?

I thought it was very, very pretty (Bryan Fuller clearly taking up where he left off with Hannibal) but I'm a little worried that it was a little tough to follow for the layperson. I reread the book around Christmas last, so I was pretty up to speed, but would be interested how accessible it was to someone who'd never read, or not for a long time, the book?

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Noble of the Alter Kindred





Muslpelheim

I enjoyed greatly and the figure of mr Wendsday made me grinn with joy. Also enjoyed the overall mood and feel of the series, very much on par with the book.


Try to keep a blank page
But these memories they cloud my mind with grief
Faces lost forever
And the guilt of feeling some kind of relief
But when the end finally comes I won't despair
I'll just keep on hoping I might see you there 
   
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Devon, UK

Agreed, with the book relatively fresh in my mind, I really appreciated how faithful it was, but with little touches here and there just to make it more current.

Ian McShane is the only person I could ever see as Wednesday from the moment I found out he was playing him.

We find comfort among those who agree with us - growth among those who don't. - Frank Howard Clark

The wise man doubts often, and changes his mind; the fool is obstinate, and doubts not; he knows all things but his own ignorance.

The correct statement of individual rights is that everyone has the right to an opinion, but crucially, that opinion can be roundly ignored and even made fun of, particularly if it is demonstrably nonsense!” Professor Brian Cox

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Much like Preacher some of the tweaks made sense (although the opening had Fuller's bloody finger prints all over it), trying to separate the book from the show is kind of tricky but I think the show did enough to set the story and characters up, and the 'Coming to America' bits will do enough to explain things (and fingers crossed for a story or two from Mr Nancy)

Also if they explain who/what they go to see in Vegas I'll be happy but I think that's part of the Lakeside section so likely not Season 1

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"Well, erm, hmm, its alright. We've got understatement. We have strong prevailing South Westerly winds. 52% of our days are overcast, so as a nation we're infused with a wistful melancholy. But we remain a relentlessly chipper population, prone to mild eccentricity, binge drinking and casual violence"
 
   
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Devon, UK

Agreed on the opening, but the dismembered arm spiraling through the air (and breaking out of the letterbox format) before impaling that geezer was amusing.

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The wise man doubts often, and changes his mind; the fool is obstinate, and doubts not; he knows all things but his own ignorance.

The correct statement of individual rights is that everyone has the right to an opinion, but crucially, that opinion can be roundly ignored and even made fun of, particularly if it is demonstrably nonsense!” Professor Brian Cox

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As someone who hasn't read any of the books or comics, I quite enjoyed the premiere. As said, very good visuals. I found their particular way of doing blood effects different and artsy than what I usually see. Story wise of course I don't exactly know what's going on, but there's enough there that I'm getting an idea of what we're going for. Definitely one to keep watching so far.

 
   
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Muslpelheim

 Azreal13 wrote:
Agreed, with the book relatively fresh in my mind, I really appreciated how faithful it was, but with little touches here and there just to make it more current.

Ian McShane is the only person I could ever see as Wednesday from the moment I found out he was playing him.


Oh totaly, that particular figure needs someone whom can carry the sheer importance of the role and as well come across as the mixture of con man, mentor and gruff old man as Ian can. That and the physical similarites between the two since Mr Wedsday is a rather solid figure.


Try to keep a blank page
But these memories they cloud my mind with grief
Faces lost forever
And the guilt of feeling some kind of relief
But when the end finally comes I won't despair
I'll just keep on hoping I might see you there 
   
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Burtucky, Michigan

 AduroT wrote:
As someone who hasn't read any of the books or comics, I quite enjoyed the premiere. As said, very good visuals. I found their particular way of doing blood effects different and artsy than what I usually see. Story wise of course I don't exactly know what's going on, but there's enough there that I'm getting an idea of what we're going for. Definitely one to keep watching so far.


Same here, the wife and I didnt know it was a book. We both feel like we arnt exactly sure whats going on but we are very interested. If it keeps going like the start we are going to really enjoy it

 
   
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Norristown, PA

I never read the books either, but I enjoyed the first episode and will keep watching. I'll watch almost anything with Ian McShane.

   
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 Turnip Jedi wrote:
Also if they explain who/what they go to see in Vegas I'll be happy but I think that's part of the Lakeside section so likely not Season 1


According to Neil Gamain (in an interview on the Empire Film podcast), they've still not decided, as that bit's in season 2.
   
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Devon, UK

 AduroT wrote:
As someone who hasn't read any of the books or comics, I quite enjoyed the premiere. As said, very good visuals. I found their particular way of doing blood effects different and artsy than what I usually see. Story wise of course I don't exactly know what's going on, but there's enough there that I'm getting an idea of what we're going for. Definitely one to keep watching so far.


That's decidedly Bryan Fuller's influence, that sort of effect was all over Hannibal. I'd imagine it's a nice compromise as not only does it make for some visually interesting stuff, but it's abstract enough that it may fall under "fantasy violence" and allow them to get away with things depicted more easily than if they were to go down a more realistic route with the effects.

We find comfort among those who agree with us - growth among those who don't. - Frank Howard Clark

The wise man doubts often, and changes his mind; the fool is obstinate, and doubts not; he knows all things but his own ignorance.

The correct statement of individual rights is that everyone has the right to an opinion, but crucially, that opinion can be roundly ignored and even made fun of, particularly if it is demonstrably nonsense!” Professor Brian Cox

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Norristown, PA

So is Mr Wednesday supposed to be Odin? Just thought that because of the viking scene in the beginning, and he's a main god, and Wednesday seems to be a main american god, but he seems to still have both eyes though...

   
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Devon, UK

And Wednesday is a corruption of "Odins Day" and that day is his day, and he has an eye for things, "but just the one" and..

Suffice to say there is good evidence to support this theory.

We find comfort among those who agree with us - growth among those who don't. - Frank Howard Clark

The wise man doubts often, and changes his mind; the fool is obstinate, and doubts not; he knows all things but his own ignorance.

The correct statement of individual rights is that everyone has the right to an opinion, but crucially, that opinion can be roundly ignored and even made fun of, particularly if it is demonstrably nonsense!” Professor Brian Cox

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 AndrewGPaul wrote:
 Turnip Jedi wrote:
Also if they explain who/what they go to see in Vegas I'll be happy but I think that's part of the Lakeside section so likely not Season 1


According to Neil Gamain (in an interview on the Empire Film podcast), they've still not decided, as that bit's in season 2.


The Mercury theory kind of fits and the overlap with some of Wednesday traits explains why they are connected, but doesn't quite cover the memory muddling, then again that could make for a very trippy episode

I'm guessing S1 will take us up to around Lakeside (which hopefully will get trimmed as it could easily become Walking Dead S2 all over again)

"Well, erm, hmm, its alright. We've got understatement. We have strong prevailing South Westerly winds. 52% of our days are overcast, so as a nation we're infused with a wistful melancholy. But we remain a relentlessly chipper population, prone to mild eccentricity, binge drinking and casual violence"
 
   
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Burtucky, Michigan

 Necros wrote:
I never read the books either, but I enjoyed the first episode and will keep watching. I'll watch almost anything with Ian McShane.



You ever watch Pillars of the Earth series? I LOVE that series and he was awesome in that. He played his character so well I just wanted to bash his head in with a rock. Im with you, that guy is a really good actor

 
   
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Devon, UK

Probably better you colonials that are fans of McShane don't look out for a show called Lovejoy, it may somewhat undermine your opinion.

We find comfort among those who agree with us - growth among those who don't. - Frank Howard Clark

The wise man doubts often, and changes his mind; the fool is obstinate, and doubts not; he knows all things but his own ignorance.

The correct statement of individual rights is that everyone has the right to an opinion, but crucially, that opinion can be roundly ignored and even made fun of, particularly if it is demonstrably nonsense!” Professor Brian Cox

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He was in one of the Babylon 5 TV movies too. Again, not his finest hour ...
   
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Norristown, PA

I liked him ever since Deadwood, but I haven't seen him in a lot of stuff. But he seems to do a good job in everything I've seen him do at least

   
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 Necros wrote:
I never read the books either, but I enjoyed the first episode and will keep watching. I'll watch almost anything with Ian McShane.


It's only one book, and a couple of short stories. It's really good though. Easily one of the best I've ever read.
   
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Svalarheima, MA

He was great in that one Game of Thrones episode, even though he really had to stretch for the role...

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Devon, UK

Too soon...

We find comfort among those who agree with us - growth among those who don't. - Frank Howard Clark

The wise man doubts often, and changes his mind; the fool is obstinate, and doubts not; he knows all things but his own ignorance.

The correct statement of individual rights is that everyone has the right to an opinion, but crucially, that opinion can be roundly ignored and even made fun of, particularly if it is demonstrably nonsense!” Professor Brian Cox

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Okay just watched it again, still not quite sure why the Tech Boys drones went pop, maybe related to the Gallows tipping off Wednesday ? Or somebody else ? I have a theory (not bunnies)

"Well, erm, hmm, its alright. We've got understatement. We have strong prevailing South Westerly winds. 52% of our days are overcast, so as a nation we're infused with a wistful melancholy. But we remain a relentlessly chipper population, prone to mild eccentricity, binge drinking and casual violence"
 
   
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Devon, UK

I doubt we'll have long to wait, that struck me as a definite hook to encourage further viewing, and that Ep2 will explain.

If it doesn't, it will require further ponderance.

We find comfort among those who agree with us - growth among those who don't. - Frank Howard Clark

The wise man doubts often, and changes his mind; the fool is obstinate, and doubts not; he knows all things but his own ignorance.

The correct statement of individual rights is that everyone has the right to an opinion, but crucially, that opinion can be roundly ignored and even made fun of, particularly if it is demonstrably nonsense!” Professor Brian Cox

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 Azreal13 wrote:
I doubt we'll have long to wait, that struck me as a definite hook to encourage further viewing, and that Ep2 will explain.

If it doesn't, it will require further ponderance.


I'm sort of discounting Wednesday as he doesn't like to directly get his hands dirty, and whilst my theory has the strength I never thought they had the speed, although the slow-mo could be more Fuller-jitsu and/or Shadows muddled state

"Well, erm, hmm, its alright. We've got understatement. We have strong prevailing South Westerly winds. 52% of our days are overcast, so as a nation we're infused with a wistful melancholy. But we remain a relentlessly chipper population, prone to mild eccentricity, binge drinking and casual violence"
 
   
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I am in the process of listening to a full cast audiobook. (Not the show cast, though Mr. Wednesday in the audiobook sounds exactly like Ian McShane)

I started it about two months before they announced the show was picked up by starz for a show. I was pretty happy.

I liked the visuals and how they set up the story in the first episode. I absolutely hated the music almost 90% of the first episode. I am not sure why, it just seemed off. Like it never fit right. I need to rewatch it honestly.

I am very excited about:
Spoiler:
The trip to Cairo. I am from the region and I know a lot about the Southern Illinois area. Lots of folklore and superstition, hidden treasures, secrets to why the region is called "Little Egypt". Old blood fueds and lots of gang warfare, the first aerial bombing in the US took place in Southern Illinois. It is all true and it is all crazy. I hope they did a lot of shooting in the area, so you can get a good feel of what it is like here. If they did, they are lucky they missed out on all of this glorious flooding!

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Devon, UK

It's not impossible that the music not fitting was deliberate. It wasn't something I picked up, but given Shadow's just got out of prison, lost his wife and met Wednesday, trying to create a little discord between the audio and the visual would be fitting.

We find comfort among those who agree with us - growth among those who don't. - Frank Howard Clark

The wise man doubts often, and changes his mind; the fool is obstinate, and doubts not; he knows all things but his own ignorance.

The correct statement of individual rights is that everyone has the right to an opinion, but crucially, that opinion can be roundly ignored and even made fun of, particularly if it is demonstrably nonsense!” Professor Brian Cox

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So Episode 2, odd opening but reinforces the whole blood and belief vibe although paints Mr Nancy as slightly more of a bastard than I had him pegged from the book

No resolution to last weeks exploding henchmen, but Wednesday denied it was him so sticking with my prior theory

Bilquis' segment providing the mandatory skin quota, winkys 'n' all, not sure where that story is going

The update of the Media encounter was nicely done

The sisters were excellent, and Czernobog was outstandingly grim, liked the whole speech about his 'brother', and how it sets up the checkers game and Shadow's solution

And as ever Mr Wednesday was awesome

"Well, erm, hmm, its alright. We've got understatement. We have strong prevailing South Westerly winds. 52% of our days are overcast, so as a nation we're infused with a wistful melancholy. But we remain a relentlessly chipper population, prone to mild eccentricity, binge drinking and casual violence"
 
   
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Yeah, not as visually distinct this time, but starts to open up more of the story I thought. Also, Vikings the first episode, slaves the second, I wonder if we'll get a ten minute scene about a group's interaction with one of their gods to start every episode.

 
   
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Most likely, there are a fair few 'Coming to America' stories in the book, hopefully they'll add one in for Mad Sweeney as the book alludes to him more than a Leprechaun

"Well, erm, hmm, its alright. We've got understatement. We have strong prevailing South Westerly winds. 52% of our days are overcast, so as a nation we're infused with a wistful melancholy. But we remain a relentlessly chipper population, prone to mild eccentricity, binge drinking and casual violence"
 
   
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Oh, huh, didn't even think about both stories so far being coming to America ones, which makes sense given the show title.

 
   
 
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