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Government forces and Islamic fundie groups are clashing (again) in the Southern Philippines. The fighting has been going on throughout the area, with particularly nasty clashes in (the predominately Muslim) Marawi City.



http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/05/23/philippine-troops-battle-is-linked-gunmen-in-southern-city.html



http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/philippine-troops-battle-linked-gunmen-southern-city-47578248



Here is a rundown of witness reports compiled by a Philippine anon on a 4chan thread discussing the subject. The reports of fires has been confirmed, but the other stuff, according to him, may be rumor, hysteria, or false.



Update as of 10:47pm (local time)
-AFP are sending more troops in Marawi
- Patients and nurses are safe inside the APMC and the latter are currently on duty.
- Armed men are confirmed to be the Maute group.
- The Maute group together with the Bangsamoro Islamic Freedom Fighters has pledged allegiance to ISIS.
- Firefight ensues with the government troops.
- A policeman and 2 ambulance drivers were killed.
- Homes are being trespassed.
- Women not wearing Hijabs are being taken away.
- AFP received an intel that Abu Sayyaf leader Isnilon Hapilon was with the Maute group.
- Some buildings in Dansalan College were burnt to ashes.
- Most affected areas are Basak Malutlut, Sarimanok, Marinaut, Provincial Jail, Amai Pakpak, Bo. Saber, Sarimanok and most of the key intersections in Marawi.
- Marawi City Jail is on fire.
- Detainees in the City Jail were freed by the group.
- At least 5 gov't troops are now wounded.
- Chapel in Barrio Paypay is on fire.
- The group took away the firetrucks so that the fire can't be put out.
- Marawi City is experiencing total electricity blackout.
- ISIS flags are raised in several areas in the city including hospitals, government establishments, and police cars.
- Gunshots are being heard all over the city again.
- Maute group has left the Amai Pakpak Medical Center.
- Maute recruiting residents to join them.
- AFP issued a 5-hour ultimatum for civilians to leave before they start bombing Marawi again.
- Maute is interrogating civilians. If you can't prove you are a Muslim, they will kidnap you and will be "taken cared of"
- Maute used trucks to block all entry/exit including bridges.
- Police captain killed.
- The group is seizing houses looking for men to recruit.
- Civilians are asked to recite the Shahada. If they can't, theyre killed.
- Some of the teachers in Dansalan College are already dead. Their heads are being displayed on the highway.




Apparently, what kicked this off was an attempt by the government to arrest the suspected leader of a terror cell. And it blew up from there.




EDIT: The entire Mindanao region is currently under martial law. And there is a media blackout, plus requests by the AFP for citizens not to post sightings of troop dispositions on social media.


Some pics have trickled out of the area, supposedly relating to the current flare-up. Mostly of militants in the streets:



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Shot of a police vehicle flying an ISIS flag:



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Might as well post this. It relates to the recent terrorist activity. And not a bad idea to do:



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The scum never give up do they.

Hopefully the Philippines hits down on them hard before they can dig in and start getting too settled.

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 Tactical_Spam wrote:
Syrian Civil War 2.0 here we come...


No. The majority Phillipines government has been fighting local Muslim tribes sine the Spanish. Its where Pershing got his bones and why the US developed the 1911 after fighting with drugged up tribesmen.

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 jhe90 wrote:
The scum never give up do they.

Hopefully the Philippines hits down on them hard before they can dig in and start getting too settled.


They've been there for a long time. The Philippines have been a terrorism hotspot since the early 90s to my knowledge (probably longer). The original 9/11 plot was actually planned to be test-run from in Manila, it code name was "Bojinka", and Abu Sayyaf and Jemaah Islamiah both have operated/recruited heavily from the Philippines.

This has been waiting to erupt for a long time there.
   
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 Frazzled wrote:
 Tactical_Spam wrote:
Syrian Civil War 2.0 here we come...


No. The majority Phillipines government has been fighting local Muslim tribes sine the Spanish. Its where Pershing got his bones and why the US developed the 1911 after fighting with drugged up tribesmen.


Oh that area. When Pershing found him self needing a man stopper and they had to reissue the older heavier revolvers.

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Since Durante has no problem swinging the heavy hammer, I imagine this will escalate very rapidly.

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 Easy E wrote:
Since Durante has no problem swinging the heavy hammer, I imagine this will escalate very rapidly.


Looks like it is needed.

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Just the kind of dictator the US loves! The kind that fights our enemies for us!

Edit: Just saw this....

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-calls-kim-jong-un-a-madman-with-nuclear-weapons-according-to-transcript-of-duterte-call/2017/05/23/211d1474-3fe8-11e7-9869-bac8b446820a_story.html?tid=ss_tw&utm_term=.846d8e075160


Trump’s call with Duterte, during which he extended an invitation to visit him at the White House, was met with skepticism from some foreign policy analysts and human rights groups. Since taking office in June, Duterte has moved to hedge on the Philippines’ long-standing defense alliance with the United States by establishing closer relations with China. And his administration has overseen a brutal extrajudicial campaign that has resulted in the killings of thousands of suspected drug dealers.

Trump has not spoken out against that strategy, and in their call he praised Duterte for doing an “unbelievable job on the drug problem.”

“Many countries have the problem, we have the problem, but what a great job you are doing and I just wanted to call and tell you that,” Trump said, according to the transcript.

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 Frazzled wrote:
 Easy E wrote:
Since Durante has no problem swinging the heavy hammer, I imagine this will escalate very rapidly.


Looks like it is needed.


No ones gonna object if he drops that hammer on this lot.

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In before the justifications to discriminate against Islam.

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 NinthMusketeer wrote:
In before the justifications to discriminate against Islam.


Your post literally makes no sense except for pre-emptive virtue signalling.

EDIT: likely they'll put all the Philippines under martial law. That feels like an excuse. The terrorists are only operating in Mindanao IIRC.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-40024120

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 Frazzled wrote:
 NinthMusketeer wrote:
In before the justifications to discriminate against Islam.


Your post literally makes no sense except for pre-emptive virtue signalling.


You must be doing alright to afford all them ten dollar words

I know nothing about the history of the groups in that area. Are they terrorists or are they rebels?

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 feeder wrote:
 Frazzled wrote:
 NinthMusketeer wrote:
In before the justifications to discriminate against Islam.


Your post literally makes no sense except for pre-emptive virtue signalling.


You must be doing alright to afford all them ten dollar words

I know nothing about the history of the groups in that area. Are they terrorists or are they rebels?


Historically they were tribes that used terror and guerrilla tactics to both maintain independence and kill each other. This latest iteration appears to have hooked in a bit of ISIL love, but are using similar terror tactics to those in the past.

On the flip side, in the past, negotiating with them as tribes worked. Don't know about now.

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 Frazzled wrote:
 NinthMusketeer wrote:
In before the justifications to discriminate against Islam.


Your post literally makes no sense except for pre-emptive virtue signalling.

EDIT: likely they'll put all the Philippines under martial law. That feels like an excuse. The terrorists are only operating in Mindanao IIRC.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-40024120
It's a commentary on how people use events to justify pre-existing bias and behavior.

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And has to do with this thread how?

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 NinthMusketeer wrote:
In before the justifications to discriminate against Islam.


Do you keep that on copy/paste?


This is tribal in nature, it just picked up religious flavoring this time around. I expect a very heavy handed response, just hoping they keep the civilian casualties low.

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 Frazzled wrote:
And has to do with this thread how?
ISIS is a global threat precisely because they have capitalized on that habit; they commit acts of terrorism, people discriminate against muslims, which creates more new recruits. It's a foundation of their organization.

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Again that has what to with anyone's posts on this thread other than trolling?

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 Frazzled wrote:
Again that has what to with anyone's posts on this thread other than trolling?
ISIS looks to be involved here. Islamic terrorism also ties directly into the discrimination aspect whether we like it or not. To me it seems more like you are bothered about me questioning the legitimacy of that discrimination than anything else, since you are devoting an awful lot of attention to a one-sentence comment. That such a statement immediately stirs up response like this is exactly why I feel it still needs to be brought up.

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 NinthMusketeer wrote:
 Frazzled wrote:
Again that has what to with anyone's posts on this thread other than trolling?
ISIS looks to be involved here. Islamic terrorism also ties directly into the discrimination aspect whether we like it or not. To me it seems more like you are bothered about me questioning the legitimacy of that discrimination than anything else, since you are devoting an awful lot of attention to a one-sentence comment. That such a statement immediately stirs up response like this is exactly why I feel it still needs to be brought up.


You're not questioning the legitimacy, you're trolling before anyone posted anything. The only response is that I fell for the bait of a troll, but being hopped up on vicoden today I am not as wary as normal.

You're babbling about discrimination, when the Filipino terrorists are literally "cutting off heads and gak" to use an Apocalypse Now reference.

Will just have to ignore your posts the rest of this thread to get it back on track.

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 Frazzled wrote:
Will just have to ignore your posts the rest of this thread to get it back on track.
Sounds good to me

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Considering that both communist guerillas and Islamic fundamentalist groups have a history of playing with bombs around the country, a nationwide state of emergency might not be a bad idea.



The most recent incidents were earlier this month in Manila at the end of April and earlier this month, in the Quiapo District.

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All of this on top of the horrific war on drugs being waged there...


 
   
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 oldravenman3025 wrote:


Considering that both communist guerillas and Islamic fundamentalist groups have a history of playing with bombs around the country, a nationwide state of emergency might not be a bad idea.



The most recent incidents were earlier this month in Manila at the end of April and earlier this month, in the Quiapo District.


I understand. Given the predilliction of their current President for extrajudicial killing of drug dealers etc., however I am suspect of the reasoning behind it.

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Aetare wrote:All of this on top of the horrific war on drugs being waged there...


Frazzled wrote:
 oldravenman3025 wrote:


Considering that both communist guerillas and Islamic fundamentalist groups have a history of playing with bombs around the country, a nationwide state of emergency might not be a bad idea.



The most recent incidents were earlier this month in Manila at the end of April and earlier this month, in the Quiapo District.


I understand. Given the predilliction of their current President for extrajudicial killing of drug dealers etc., however I am suspect of the reasoning behind it.






Agreed. The entire country is a mess and has been for a long time. Considering the current President's hard line on policy, I expect the response to be harsh, to put it lightly.




Some more photographs. These look like local militia. Back in the 80's, the Marcos government armed farmers and villagers with surplus World War II weaponry from government armories. And to my understanding, his successors have continued that policy to a lesser degree (hence some of the more modern weapons). Duterte is still popular in rural areas, due to his brutal actions against local drug lords (which have a history of strong arming the peasants).


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 Frazzled wrote:
 oldravenman3025 wrote:


Considering that both communist guerillas and Islamic fundamentalist groups have a history of playing with bombs around the country, a nationwide state of emergency might not be a bad idea.



The most recent incidents were earlier this month in Manila at the end of April and earlier this month, in the Quiapo District.


I understand. Given the predilliction of their current President for extrajudicial killing of drug dealers etc., however I am suspect of the reasoning behind it.
Basically this. If the leadership was known to be reasonable it would be one thing, but given his history...

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I wonder how this is impacting the call center outsourcing industry? The pHillipines have been a popular place to off shore recently.

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 Easy E wrote:
I wonder how this is impacting the call center outsourcing industry? The Phillipines have been a popular place to off shore recently.
I hadn't heard this, is it a significant portion of the industry? Even if it isn't I imagine if a company has all of their outsourcing there it could be a problem.

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