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2017/05/24 06:49:27
Subject: Assassins in 30k?
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Unhealthy Competition With Other Legions
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Hey there! Was basically wondering if anyone has used 40k assassins in 30k, and if so if they modified the rules for their use? Also wanted to know how everyone's feeling on using them in 30k was? They look so awesome but I only have 30k armies now so I can't really ever see me getting to use them.
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2017/05/24 08:49:44
Subject: Assassins in 30k?
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Keeper of the Holy Orb of Antioch
avoiding the lorax on Crion
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Definitely existed. Far as I know. No 30k rules mind.?
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Sgt. Vanden - OOC Hey, that was your doing. I didn't choose to fly in the "Dongerprise'.
"May the odds be ever in your favour"
Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
I have no clue how Dakka's moderation work. I expect it involves throwing a lot of d100 and looking at many random tables.
FudgeDumper - It could be that you are just so uncomfortable with the idea of your chapters primarch having his way with a docile tyranid spore cyst, that you must deny they have any feelings at all. |
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2017/05/25 15:17:43
Subject: Assassins in 30k?
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Guard Heavy Weapon Crewman
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In friendly games I couldn't see no reason why you couldn't have them in the list. It'd be very fluffy in a Talons of the Emperor list or Alpha Legion...
Maybe pay a 10% surcharge, as everything in 30k seems to be a bit more expensive than 40k.
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Please Consider The Environment Before Committing Heresy
 32nd Elysian - 1,000 points WIP
 Solar Auxilia - 2,000 points WIP
 Emperor's Children - 2,000 points WIP |
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2017/05/25 22:04:01
Subject: Assassins in 30k?
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Guard Heavy Weapon Crewman
Australia
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I have played in a event where Assassins have been used. I am actually playing in one this weekend. Assassins are usually restricted to 1 and they take up an Elite slot.
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Solar Auxilia: 3,500+
Space Wolves: 1,000+
40k:
Vostroyans: 2,000+
Deathwatch: Points Unknown. |
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1617/05/26 01:55:45
Subject: Assassins in 30k?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Shouldn't have much trouble fitting them in... I recommend the Vindicare.
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2017/05/26 05:46:04
Subject: Re:Assassins in 30k?
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Warning From Magnus? Not Listening!
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They most definitely existed. If I remember correctly, the assassin temples predated the Emperor and had been on terra for thousands of years before the Crusade started. Most "typical" terran weapons (like the needle pistol and possibly even the bolter) are assassin inventions. So yeah, use them, but you might want to add a small amount of points and possibly make it a LoW.
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2017/05/26 11:13:56
Subject: Assassins in 30k?
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Stern Iron Priest with Thrall Bodyguard
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They exist but the emperor forbade their use he didn't want the war fought in the shadows.
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2017/05/26 18:54:15
Subject: Assassins in 30k?
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Locked in the Tower of Amareo
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There was character that sure sounded like the anti psyker one in outcast deaa
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2017/05/26 20:33:40
Subject: Assassins in 30k?
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain
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Yep there is even a book about them, Nemesis, and yep you can use them as allies with permission, just dont try to drop one into a game without clearing it, as they dont have 30k rules yet, treat them as heralds of the emperor or warmaster on the allies chart, but have them as elite choices 0-1
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2017/05/26 22:34:37
Subject: Assassins in 30k?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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hobojebus wrote:They exist but the emperor forbade their use he didn't want the war fought in the shadows.
I'm not sure that he forbade their use generally, wasn't he being specific to Horus? After all, he sent one after Curze...
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2017/05/26 22:35:32
Subject: Assassins in 30k?
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Keeper of the Holy Orb of Antioch
avoiding the lorax on Crion
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tneva82 wrote:There was character that sure sounded like the anti psyker one in outcast deaa
Was one basically without naming so.
Humans uncomfortable.
Psyker black hole, strips powers.
Atheletic, and human + combat ability
Knows space marine weak points.
Works for a hunter of fugitives... (in any other case inquisition for sure but not exist yet. )
Yeah. It's a assassin.
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Sgt. Vanden - OOC Hey, that was your doing. I didn't choose to fly in the "Dongerprise'.
"May the odds be ever in your favour"
Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
I have no clue how Dakka's moderation work. I expect it involves throwing a lot of d100 and looking at many random tables.
FudgeDumper - It could be that you are just so uncomfortable with the idea of your chapters primarch having his way with a docile tyranid spore cyst, that you must deny they have any feelings at all. |
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2017/05/27 05:19:39
Subject: Assassins in 30k?
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Warning From Magnus? Not Listening!
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 JamesY wrote:hobojebus wrote:They exist but the emperor forbade their use he didn't want the war fought in the shadows.
I'm not sure that he forbade their use generally, wasn't he being specific to Horus? After all, he sent one after Curze...
Not sure if he did, but the one that killed Curze was sent after he "died".
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2017/05/27 15:47:40
Subject: Assassins in 30k?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Looking for the Rest of the II Legion
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Didn't Curze also just let it kill him? Like out of remorse or something...
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2017/05/27 22:09:36
Subject: Assassins in 30k?
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Stern Iron Priest with Thrall Bodyguard
UK
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I'd have to find the book but I'm fairly sure it was a general no to using assassins.
Okay so I found my old copy it was more that they couldn't be used in secret anymore they have to be governed and accounted for.
So yeah seems loyalists could use them if your opponents cool with it provided they were near Terra, smurfs dark angels and wolves would however not have access to them as the temples are not accessible.
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2017/05/31 09:44:30
Subject: Re:Assassins in 30k?
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Speed Drybrushing
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Didn't Malcador send a team of assassins after Horus when he turned.
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2017/05/31 17:49:31
Subject: Re:Assassins in 30k?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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 Rolsheen wrote:Didn't Malcador send a team of assassins after Horus when he turned.
Yes.
Nemesis: war within the shadows
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Horus_Heresy_(novels)#book13
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2017/06/01 10:35:38
Subject: Re:Assassins in 30k?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Rolsheen wrote:Didn't Malcador send a team of assassins after Horus when he turned.
Yeah that's the story hobojesus was referring to. At the end the Emp tells him not to do it again.
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