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Boston

Hey all,

Just watched a Trinity Squad video of a list from worlds that highlighted a pretty handy combination: Kylo to hand out a damaged cockpit to nerf any enemy ships with ps8+




I like the idea, but think the shuttle (w/ Kylo pilot) isn't the right vehicle. It's too dependent on the enemy shooting the shuttle.

So my idea would be to use RAC:

100 points

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Rear Admiral Chiraneau (61)
VT-49 Decimator (46), Trick Shot (0), Emperor Palpatine (8), Kylo Ren (3), Engine Upgrade (4)

“Echo” (39)
TIE Phantom (30), Agent Kallus (2), Fire-Control System (2), Veteran Instincts (1), Advanced Cloaking Device (4)
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Trick shot is just there because I thought keeping RAC & Echo at the same ps would be more useful than adaptability. But I could totally see dropping Kallus for some other ept on RAC.

Basically Rac's main purpose is to get damaged cockpit on two enemy aces (and with Palp, he guarantees a crit at R3) and any damage beyond that is gravy.

What do you think? Am I missing something about this?
   
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Bathing in elitist French expats fumes

Hmmm... why not a Mercenary Copilot instead of Kallus?


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I also understand the inclusion of an EU to cover more ground, but won't that conflict with your 1 action per turn restriction?

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 GamesWorkshop wrote:
And I would have gotten away with it too, if it weren't for you meddling kids!

 
   
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Boston

EU is there for arc dodging in the mid game, not for the initial approach. It'd be kinda nice to be able to do both but because ptl only works on the action bar, it won't really help - can't boost then Kylo.

If I dropped Kallus, now that I think about it, I'd probably get the Dauntless title so I can Kylo even after being blocked. Merc Copilot doesn't seem worth it, especially because it changes a hit to a crit, and R3 I'll need all the damage results possible to land anything on a lot of aces
   
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Bathing in elitist French expats fumes

Yeah, it'll work well on generics, but aces are going to be once in a blue moon, I think you ought to focus on a more solid, all-takers list instead.

 GamesWorkshop wrote:
And I would have gotten away with it too, if it weren't for you meddling kids!

 
   
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IMO this is investing too much into a gimmick list. You're depending on the Kylo/RAC combo to deliver PS 0 just to get to the point where Whisper ends up naturally, and IMO Whisper's pilot ability is better than Echo's in addition to the PS advantage. And the gimmick does little to help with the biggest threats to a conventional RAC/Whisper list (Sabine bombs, mass TLTs, etc). You're better off taking the conventional list if you want RAC and a phantom.

 Mathieu Raymond wrote:
Yeah, it'll work well on generics, but aces are going to be once in a blue moon, I think you ought to focus on a more solid, all-takers list instead.


Kallus is there for generics as well. Getting an auto-focus (therefore freeing up your actions for BR/evade) against 25-33% of your opponent's list is way more powerful than an extremely situational crit effect that requires another situational effect to be relevant at all. And EU is there to make RAC better for a TAC list, as more of a general-purpose threat on top of delivering the Kylo Ren crit.

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Well, io don't know about Whisper being better than Echo. I think Echo is actually better, but has a very high skill ceiling to use properly. You have to really practice with her. So whisper is more straightforward.

As for the list idea, its a bit gimmicky. I'd also rather have Navigator on the Phantom instead of Kallus. It's good insurancefor placing the phantom where it needs to be.

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