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NoVA

I am new to 40k and have really enjoyed it! I have been painting a Raven Guard army and have a lot of Vanguard and Sternguard Veterans. Some of you may know that RG vets have white pauldrons and arms to distinguish them from regular marines. While trying to paint this I found that my white paint jobs were not coming out as well as blacks. I have tried two kinds of paint: a cheap Walmart acrylic thinned down with water as well as Vallejo Paints "Dead White" thinned down with water. I have tried to thin the paint varying degrees. When I thin it to where it coats and spreads on the mini well it dries with visible and unevenly. When I thin it less it spreads decently but globs up on the brush and ruins the details of the minis because of how thick it is. But when I thin it MORE it dries beautifully but runs down the mini before it dries because it is so thin and also shows the black undercoat, even after multiple layers. I am so frustrated because I am such a stickler for the details, which sucks because I am new so I keep messing up. So I turn to you denizens of DakkaDakka. Please guide me with your glorious knowledge! KEEP MY DREAM OF BEAKIES ALIVE!!!!

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Try basecoating the white areas with Vallejo Pale Blue-grey before highlighting with the dead white.

 
   
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Croatia

Paint the area in grey, then lighter grey, then white. Keep in mind that it could be a good idea to paint your "white" areas in a colour a bit darker than pure white, allowing you to highlight it with pure white.

   
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Death-Dealing Devastator






It may depend on what colors your working with. But when I was painting fists. I used a white undercoated, then base coated with P3 50/50 mix of Hearthfire Yellow-Orange and Cygnus Yellow. Very very watered down. Death by a thousand cuts. I would blend from that point getting darker or lighter depending on the topology of the model. After i was satisfied with an even coat. I did the same method with 100% Cygnus yellow. I then washed with 80 Yellow ink P3 and drop of black wash. Lighter or darker in the recesses.

Thin paint takes time and unless you're painting a masterpiece just spraying is a lot quicker. Dark to light makes for better depth and detail.

Look for some blending tutorials.

Keep it simple. Try a damp brush then a little bit of water and work you way up to thinner paint. Everyone has different advice ideas and perceptions/personal experience. Just keep at it.




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 TrooperGrunt wrote:
I am new to 40k and have really enjoyed it! I have been painting a Raven Guard army and have a lot of Vanguard and Sternguard Veterans. Some of you may know that RG vets have white pauldrons and arms to distinguish them from regular marines. While trying to paint this I found that my white paint jobs were not coming out as well as blacks. I have tried two kinds of paint: a cheap Walmart acrylic thinned down with water as well as Vallejo Paints "Dead White" thinned down with water. I have tried to thin the paint varying degrees. When I thin it to where it coats and spreads on the mini well it dries with visible and unevenly. When I thin it less it spreads decently but globs up on the brush and ruins the details of the minis because of how thick it is. But when I thin it MORE it dries beautifully but runs down the mini before it dries because it is so thin and also shows the black undercoat, even after multiple layers. I am so frustrated because I am such a stickler for the details, which sucks because I am new so I keep messing up. So I turn to you denizens of DakkaDakka. Please guide me with your glorious knowledge! KEEP MY DREAM OF BEAKIES ALIVE!!!!


Getting a smooth, opaque coat of paint is difficult enough, all the harder when you've got a transparent paint like white to deal with. The real trick is getting surface tension to work for you rather than against you. Start by putting down a grey color over the black. Then, take the white, not too thinned down, and paint the edges of the area. Let that dry, then go back with properly thinned paint (consistency of milk) and work from the edge inwards. Because you've bordered in the same paint, it's less likely to spill out, but you have to be careful not to touch any inside angles like any raised detail, or any outside angles like a vent or corner, or the paint will run away from you. Expand the leading edge of your wet paint until you've covered the entire panel that you want to paint. If you have the tension just right, your paint forms a thin layer that will dry opaque and without brush marks or clumping.

Important, constantly adjust your paint consistency. Stir it before taking up more paint, and add water if you think it's getting too thick. I used this method to paint my Tau years ago, and it's time consuming as heck (several hours per trooper), but the result is good.



That's old Codex Grey over black paint in one single coat. Note that all the inside edges (channels in the guns, gaps in armor plates) are avoided, and eventually these edges were given highlights. That's hard to do with white, so you might consider an off white or very light grey to highlight up to white.

   
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NoVA

Thank you everyone for such great ideas! I will definitely try a couple of these to see what I like best. Once again thank you so much I do love this community!

74th Hyperian Destroyer Corps (WIP)

Raven Guard Black Talon Strike Force (WIP)

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRR7W5-F15c

Duncan's video on exactly this.

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