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Sneaky Kommando






Simple question really, I was wondering how long it took other people to paint 11 ork boyz to the table top standard, I am starting to wonder if I am taking to long with mine as I take about 30-40 hours painting in a production line method air brushing the primer and using a paint brush for the rest.

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i play nids... but i had a similar problem.used to spend to hrs on 10 gaunts...then i started learning shortcuts. instead of blending the base mid tone and hilight in 5 steps total. i started doing just the base then mid and highlight and wash if it needed more definition. i also cut corners on teeth. i paint them the highest color for the teeth and then wash them with nuln oil to get definition. i can now do a squad of 10 in about 5 hours. i spray base... drybrush the skin 3 progressively lighter greens and then do the niiards and claws/teeth, and then carapaces.

 
   
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No interruptions, couple days. Realistically a week.

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Lord_Ghazghkull wrote:
i play nids... but i had a similar problem.used to spend to hrs on 10 gaunts...then i started learning shortcuts. instead of blending the base mid tone and hilight in 5 steps total. i started doing just the base then mid and highlight and wash if it needed more definition. i also cut corners on teeth. i paint them the highest color for the teeth and then wash them with nuln oil to get definition. i can now do a squad of 10 in about 5 hours. i spray base... drybrush the skin 3 progressively lighter greens and then do the niiards and claws/teeth, and then carapaces.


Nids are a different ball game, out of everything I've ever painted the
Regular ork boy has by far more detail then any other regular troop they also bare a lot of flesh.


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 KingmanHighborn wrote:
No interruptions, couple days. Realistically a week.


168 hours! ??? Let me check out your boys.

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Far too frickin long. I've given up on painting line troops to beyond Base Colours / Shade / Basing, until I actually have an army to play.

I've spent 6 hours today working on a simple farseer, and he's prolly 40% done.

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Once I'm into the swing of it, I'd say about an hour per boy. More for Bad Moonz (thanks, yellow), less for Goffz. I've got grots down to about 30-40 min per guy.
   
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Only a couple of hours, I don't tend to spend too long on base infantry considering how quickly they'll be going back into the case once the battle has started.

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Used to have no trouble doing a basic job on ten infantry in a couple of hours or less, but that was after several years of commission painting so peak efficiency

   
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If I just wanted table top, probably a few hours. I'd just spray them yellow, then turn the flesh green with a green wash, reikland on the armour to bring out the details. Silver on, then agrax the silver and any bits of yellow i want turning brown, and then any other details that needed doing. Job done.

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Sneaky Kommando






I suppose it varies on how well they are being painted, mine are of a display quality I've actually gone back through then since I wrotenthis post and started adding more detail to the bases, I think I'm suffering from the price of perfection because I look at them and I'm saying to my self they arenbot finished despite them being of a high quality, there is no way I'm going to have 2000 points ready for 8th dropping.

 
   
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I don't paint Orks, but if I did...to my "standard" (which is just above tabletop, maybe) I'd imagien I could do 11 in one sitting of 4-5 hours. That doesn't include overnight dry time for dipping, etc.

I can do 2-3 single figures in a 3-5 hour sitting, or more if I'm doing a small production line process --- I normally top out around 10, so that would work. I did 20 plaguebearers in a sitting the other week because they were easy to cheat on.
   
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It all depends how many steps go into the paint scheme really...but it's generally about an hour per step over the 11 models...
so ok, let's say we do:
(1) primer
(2) basecoat skin
(3) basecoat pants
(4) basecoat shirt
(5) basecoat belts/straps/boots
(6) basecoat armour/weapons
(7) basecoat teeth/bone
(8) all-over wash
(9) highlight skin
(10) highlight pants
(11) highlight shirt
(12) highlight belts/straps/boots
(13) highlight armour/weapons
(14) highlight teeth/bone
(15) final skin highlight
(16) armour weathering
(17) final teeth/bone highlight and eyes
......so, that's about the steps I do for my boyz, which is, I guess, roughly 17 hours...although of course, some of those steps could take longer than an hour, and some could take nowhere near an hour...it was a very rough estimate...and you can probably add an hour or two if you want to do any freehand checks/dags/etc...and probably subtract an hour or two if the pants and shirt are the same colour...etc, etc...there's a lot of variables

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My old method would probably take me 12 hours for 11 boys, but now that I use progressive washes I'd say half that. So about 6 hours for 10-11 boyz (though it would exhaust me, I prefer batches of 5).

I use this guy's tutorial and modified the colors for to fit my army style:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QaUnjzL9HHI

   
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Between 10-15 hours for tabletop quality when I'm using only brushes and assembly-line/batch painting. By the time I get done with a color on model # 10, I can start over with the next color on model # 1.


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For me to be happy with them 3 x 11 = 33 hours.
Yes, there are a lot of ways to cut corner but usually I never get happy that way.
I usually paint for 4 hours sessions. That means 8 different sessions. So takes about a week, which I don't think is too bad. But in reality I usually paint about 3-4 times a week.
Yes I am slow:(

   
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A few hours if I'm really pushing it and have no distractions, but realistically over the course of two or three days.


 
   
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I painted all 11 boyz and Nob from Armageddon box set took me around 12 hrs to do table top standard (no layer just base color, shade and highlight with base color again)
If you ask for more I used over 8 difference colors but really used 2 kind of shades.

   
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I have only 1-2 hours per night to paint and only a couple nights a week free. I try to do one ork boy per monthly competition, so times 11 boys = the better part of a year. Thanks, I just realized I probably should not be playing a horde army.

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 Gulgog TufToof wrote:
I have only 1-2 hours per night to paint and only a couple nights a week free. I try to do one ork boy per monthly competition, so times 11 boys = the better part of a year. Thanks, I just realized I probably should not be playing a horde army.


I get around 4 hours a night every night whilst my child sleeps and my wife watches the soaps and on a weekend some times I paint for 12 hours straight 7 at night til 7 in the morning, my wife gets up with my child while I sleep then she gets to lie I the next day while I get up with our child, basically take it in turns to have our "own time.

 
   
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While I've never painted orks, given how long it took to bang out 11 indvidual Deathwatch marines to character standard, I'd say about 2 hours, 3 including assembly (but not spray-undercoat as I normally leave them to dry 2-3 hours, partially out of laziness)

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 Deadshot wrote:
While I've never painted orks, given how long it took to bang out 11 indvidual Deathwatch marines to character standard, I'd say about 2 hours, 3 including assembly (but not spray-undercoat as I normally leave them to dry 2-3 hours, partially out of laziness)


I'm betting you'd revise that after painting your first Ork Despite being a horde army, Orks are not quick to paint. Every one has teeth, nails, gums/tongue (all highly visible), 4 to 6 straps/bands, handwraps, jewelry, more buckles than you can shake a stick at, clothing stitches, etc. I find Marines to be much easier to paint.

   
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 docdoom77 wrote:
 Deadshot wrote:
While I've never painted orks, given how long it took to bang out 11 indvidual Deathwatch marines to character standard, I'd say about 2 hours, 3 including assembly (but not spray-undercoat as I normally leave them to dry 2-3 hours, partially out of laziness)


I'm betting you'd revise that after painting your first Ork Despite being a horde army, Orks are not quick to paint. Every one has teeth, nails, gums/tongue (all highly visible), 4 to 6 straps/bands, handwraps, jewelry, more buckles than you can shake a stick at, clothing stitches, etc. I find Marines to be much easier to paint.



From black basecoat

Stage 1
Green basecoat - 1.2 minutes per model (based on how long to fully basecoat a Space Marine) - 15 minutes total
All leather and armour basecoat - 1.2 minutes per model - 15 minutes total
Teeth and nails basecoat - 4 mins total
All silver metal including weapons - 1.5 minutes per model - 17.5 minutes total
Tiny bit of gold where applicable - 10 seconds per applicable model - total time varies
Inside mouth - 20 seconds per model - 4 minutes
Agrax Earthshade wash - 10 seconds per model - 2 mins total
Nuln Oil wash - 10 seconds per model - 2 minutes total

Stage 2
1 Green highlight - 1 minute per - 11 minutes
1 leather highlight - 1 minute per - 11 minutes
Silver highlight - 15 seconds per model - 3 mins
Gold highlight - 10 seconds per model where applicable, total >40 seconds
Teeth highlight - 10 seconds per model - 2 minutes

Stage 3
Green highlight 3 - 45 seconds per model - 9 minutes



This of course doesn't include time spent loading and cleaning brushes, so add about 20 minutes. It also doesn't take into account procastination. If I were to fully concentrate for ~2 hours no issue. I've painted, like I said, 11 characters in the same time frame to a higher standard and with many more layers on each highlight (typically 3-4 per colour)

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Probably work

I can't speak for orks, but IG, I'd spend about 2-3 hours or so I think per Cadian. I don't think I have any good pictures of a finished guardsman posted, but my idea of tabletop quality was probably somewhat lower than yours (for a horde army).

Nowadays I'm painting Mordians. There's more detail, but at the same time, I was more careful to pick out an easier to paint color scheme. I also batch paint. Now that I have my routine down, it probably takes these 15-20 hours to paint 15 standard lasgunners.

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 docdoom77 wrote:
 Deadshot wrote:
While I've never painted orks, given how long it took to bang out 11 indvidual Deathwatch marines to character standard, I'd say about 2 hours, 3 including assembly (but not spray-undercoat as I normally leave them to dry 2-3 hours, partially out of laziness)


I'm betting you'd revise that after painting your first Ork Despite being a horde army, Orks are not quick to paint. Every one has teeth, nails, gums/tongue (all highly visible), 4 to 6 straps/bands, handwraps, jewelry, more buckles than you can shake a stick at, clothing stitches, etc. I find Marines to be much easier to paint.


While this is true for Orks in general, the Ork Boyz unit (specifically) is mostly pretty clean and simple. Almost all the heads have closed mouths, very few straps/buckles. If painted in a manner that favors speed (brown basecoat, metallics and green next, wash, detail), the Boyz themselves should go quickly.

   
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11 Boyz? If I don't care about how they look, 5.5 hours. I can't paint models faster than half an hour each, that's the limit of my speed painting ability. At that point I'm not highlighting and shading things directly, it's all about the inks and washes, often straight over the primer coat.

If I want them to look decently nice, probably about 3 hours per Boy, so 33 hours.

If I want them to look REALLY nice, about 8 hours per Boy, so 88 hours.

Realistically I'm going to get bored after painting 5 of the bastards and move on to a different army

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 John Prins wrote:
 docdoom77 wrote:
 Deadshot wrote:
While I've never painted orks, given how long it took to bang out 11 indvidual Deathwatch marines to character standard, I'd say about 2 hours, 3 including assembly (but not spray-undercoat as I normally leave them to dry 2-3 hours, partially out of laziness)


I'm betting you'd revise that after painting your first Ork Despite being a horde army, Orks are not quick to paint. Every one has teeth, nails, gums/tongue (all highly visible), 4 to 6 straps/bands, handwraps, jewelry, more buckles than you can shake a stick at, clothing stitches, etc. I find Marines to be much easier to paint.


While this is true for Orks in general, the Ork Boyz unit (specifically) is mostly pretty clean and simple. Almost all the heads have closed mouths, very few straps/buckles. If painted in a manner that favors speed (brown basecoat, metallics and green next, wash, detail), the Boyz themselves should go quickly.


Boyz are pretty clean? Not very many straps/buckles? I just painted 5 boyz this weekend. On a single boy there were: Two chest straps that go all the way around meeting in the middle of the back with a buckle hooking each on the back, plus a 3rd strap leading the belt with it's own buckle. There were additional buckles on the front side of those straps, a buckle on the belt. He had a thigh strap w/ buckle, a wrist strap with 2 buckles. He had two earings, plus various plates in random parts of his body. Not to mention individual teeth, nails, etc.

Over the years I've painted a LOT of armies. I.G., Space Marines, Eldar, Dark Eldar, Necrons and Chaos Marines. As far as basic infantry goes, I find boyz to be the most complex and detail oriented for painting, by far.

It's just weird to me that we can have such wildly different impressions. What do you consider the most difficult to paint "basic troop?" And why? I'm genuinely curious.

   
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 docdoom77 wrote:

Over the years I've painted a LOT of armies. I.G., Space Marines, Eldar, Dark Eldar, Necrons and Chaos Marines. As far as basic infantry goes, I find boyz to be the most complex and detail oriented for painting, by far.

It's just weird to me that we can have such wildly different impressions. What do you consider the most difficult to paint "basic troop?" And why? I'm genuinely curious.


I guess it's a matter of how you chose to go about it. When I was painting Tau, 4 hours per trooper was normal because of the method I used (super clean). When I did Death Guard, 1 hour per trooper at most (drybrush/wash). Tyranids, 2 hours per gaunt, because I used a basic drybrush/wash for the base then some clean detailing over top.

As to the most complex, Thousand Sons or Space Wolves have stupid levels of fiddly bits to paint. Grey Knights or SoB do as well, but they're more friendly to speedier techniques (metallics with drybrush/wash). Those armies really depend on how you choose to go about them. I suspect Orks are the same? Kroot are far fiddlier than Orks (all those spiky bits!) and they can be speed painted reasonably easily.

   
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 John Prins wrote:
 docdoom77 wrote:

Over the years I've painted a LOT of armies. I.G., Space Marines, Eldar, Dark Eldar, Necrons and Chaos Marines. As far as basic infantry goes, I find boyz to be the most complex and detail oriented for painting, by far.

It's just weird to me that we can have such wildly different impressions. What do you consider the most difficult to paint "basic troop?" And why? I'm genuinely curious.


I guess it's a matter of how you chose to go about it. When I was painting Tau, 4 hours per trooper was normal because of the method I used (super clean). When I did Death Guard, 1 hour per trooper at most (drybrush/wash). Tyranids, 2 hours per gaunt, because I used a basic drybrush/wash for the base then some clean detailing over top.

As to the most complex, Thousand Sons or Space Wolves have stupid levels of fiddly bits to paint. Grey Knights or SoB do as well, but they're more friendly to speedier techniques (metallics with drybrush/wash). Those armies really depend on how you choose to go about them. I suspect Orks are the same? Kroot are far fiddlier than Orks (all those spiky bits!) and they can be speed painted reasonably easily.


I can definitely see Thousand Sons. They look painful to paint. For me, since I want every buckle to stand out and every strap to not blend in with shirts and pants, it gets very fiddly. I've definitely found a pretty fast method, but it requires me to be very careful at each step to avoid lots of repainting.

   
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 docdoom77 wrote:

I can definitely see Thousand Sons. They look painful to paint. For me, since I want every buckle to stand out and every strap to not blend in with shirts and pants, it gets very fiddly. I've definitely found a pretty fast method, but it requires me to be very careful at each step to avoid lots of repainting.


That makes sense then. For Boyz, I'd try to be as expedient as possible, because you need a lot of them.

   
 
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