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Hi everyone,

I am about to play my first game of 8th edition and I wanted some feedback on the list I was thinking of taking. The list is basically a fun list but I would still like it to be fairly competitive. I am a little restricted with what I can put into my army at the moment as my chaos collection is not that huge. It is a combination of Slaanesh Daemons and normal CSM with Fabius Bile as Warlord. Anyway here's the list:

Battalion Detachment

Fabius Bile 109pts
Herald of Slaanesh on Seeker chariot with Psychic Power: Hysterical Frenzy 116pts

Hellbrute with Multimelta and Powerfist 139pts
Hellbrute with Multimelta and Powerfist 139pts
Hellbrute with Multimelta and Powerfist 139pts

5 Chaos Space Marines with Power Fist and Heavy Bolter 95pts
5 Chaos Space Marines with Power Sword and Heavy Bolter 79pts
30 Daemonettes with Instrument of Chaos 280pts

Predator with Twin Lascannons and Lascannon Sponsons 202pts
Predator with Twin Lascannons and Lascannon Sponsons 202pts

1500pts

The plan with the army is to stay back and camp objectives with the Predators, CSM and Fabius Bile with the Hellbrutes, Daemonettes and Herald move up to engage in close combat. With the buffs from the Herald the Daemonettes should do quite a lot of damage if they can get into combat without getting shot to pieces. Hopefully the other targets will be a good distraction. The Hellbrutes are stuck with Multimeltas unfortunately (as those are the only models I own), I am sure other weapon options might be better. Two Las Predators and the Multimeltas should be enough Anti-Tank I think. For hordes hopefully the Heavy Bolters and the Daemonettes will be effective. Fabius Bile is mainly there because I like his model and his background, he will enhance the CSM squads next to him - with luck giving them +1 toughness.

Please let me know what you think? Will this be a fun army to play friendly games with or do I need to rework it?

Thanks for reading

Indoctrinator

Gambling a 6th of your marines for a 1 in 3 chances to get t5 seems rather an inefficient use of Fabius Bile. I would consider counts as lord fabius or running a squad of csm as chosen and the other as havocs and putting your heavy bolters in the havoc squad and the close combatweapons into the chosen squad. The lord would give a much more effective and consistent buff to guys just hanging back and shooting. Chosen would have a lot more to gain from biles buffs. Change it to the vangaurd detachment and move the points where you must and you should have a much more synergetic list.

I agree, the Vanguard with Chosen would be good. Need a transport though, at least a Rhino (which truly are tanks now).

I haven't looked at what Fabius does now. Just increased Toughness? I always though for him taking max size squads of Chaos Marines was the best way to go. And if they can be Plague Marines that would super amazeballs!

Helbrutes are also much better from what I see in the Index. A few Sorcerers with Warptime could help them out a whole bunch

I think the Predators are solid and now they can move and shoot pretty reliably. But if you do the combat Chosen, consider a Dreadclaw (trade out a Helbrute and 10 Daemonettes). Easy to make from a Drop Pod and plastic-card or spare Heldrake wing parts, maybe with random thrusters in places.

You can also try to summon the Daemonettes, though the power level of 30 might be too tough to roll on 3D6. And you'll have to really protect the Herald for that.

Fabius once a turn can enhance a squad of heretic astartes. for every model in the unit you roll a D6, and on a 6, the unit suffers a mortal wound. Then, you roll a D3. Based on the result you could end up with either +1A, +1S, or +1T. Bigger squads have a lot more to gain, but I figure if he's using Fabius he should try to synergize with whatever will gain the most from the enhancement.

What else do you have to work with? Do you have more marines, more options, any Rhinos for instance?

Thanks for the replies. I am not sure that 5 chosen will be able to make it up the table though and if I go for havocs wouldn't it be better to max out heavy bolters? I do see your point macluvin in trying to get more synergy out of Fabius Bile though...

Here is what else I've got -

14 more CSM with power sword, power axe and 2 heavy bolters
3 Rhinos
7 plague marines with plasma gun
5 terminators with chainfist, 2 powerfists, combi-flamer, combi-melta and reaper autocannon
chaos lord in terminator armour with powerfist and combi melta
5 raptors with flamer and champ with lightning claws
chaos lord with jump pack and lightning claws
10 cultists with autoguns and flamer
5 possessed
1 predator with twin lascannon turret (no sponsons)
daemon prince with wings
Typhus

That's it! I hope that helps, I guess the equipment on most of the units makes them quite ineffective but if you have any more suggestions I would be happy to take them.

ALSO I did actually have my first game against a Necron player. I played with the original list and I won but it was very very close (it came down to the one wound and roll to save). Any more advice is welcome.

Would this list work better?

Vanguard Detachment

Fabius Bile 109pts

5x Chaos Space Marines Heavy bolter 75pts

9x Chosen Power axe and Power sword 166pts

Chaos Rhino 72pts

Helbrute Helbrute fist and Multi-melta 139pts

Helbrute Helbrute fist and Multi-melta 139pts

Chaos Predator Twin lascannon and 2x Lascannon 202pts

Chaos Predator Twin lascannon and 2x Lascannon 202pts

Herald of Slaanesh on Seeker Chariot 116pts

30 Daemonettes Instrument of Chaos 280pts

1500pts

That looks a lot better actually. Looks a lot more focused than before. I also would consider dropping a few daemonettes for maybe a havoc on the Rhino.

Hi, thanks for the feedback.

I thought I would give an update on how the army was doing. I won a game (though it was close) and I got a draw. The problem I am finding though is that the daemonettes get taken out by anti-infantry fire before they get close to do anything. :(

With this in mind I have revised my list. This is based on what I have available and can convert. I would like to add havoc launchers to the rhinos but I don't have the bits! Let me know what you think of the revised list.

++ Vanguard Detachment +1CP (Chaos - Chaos Space Marines) [56 PL, 893pts] ++

+ HQ +

Fabius Bile [6 PL, 109pts]

+ Elites +

Chosen [13 PL, 197pts]: 9x Chosen, No Chaos Mark, 4x Power axe
. Chosen Champion: Bolt pistol, Power fist

Chosen [13 PL, 161pts]: 8x Chosen, No Chaos Mark, 4x Power sword
. Chosen Champion: Bolt pistol, Power sword

Helbrute [8 PL, 141pts]: Multi-melta
. Helbrute fist: Combi-bolter

Helbrute [8 PL, 141pts]: Multi-melta
. Helbrute fist: Combi-bolter

+ Dedicated Transport +

Chaos Rhino [4 PL, 72pts]: Combi-bolter

Chaos Rhino [4 PL, 72pts]: Combi-bolter

++ Spearhead Detachment +1CP (Chaos - Chaos Space Marines) [37 PL, 607pts] ++

+ HQ +

Chaos Lord on Steed of Slaanesh [10 PL, 98pts]: Bolt pistol, Lashing tongue on Steed of Slaanesh, Power maul

+ Heavy Support +

Chaos Predator [10 PL, 202pts]: Twin lascannon
. Two lascannons: 2x Lascannon

Chaos Predator [10 PL, 202pts]: Twin lascannon
. Two lascannons: 2x Lascannon

Havocs [7 PL, 105pts]: 4x Havoc, 4x Heavy bolter, No Chaos Mark
. Aspiring Champion: Bolt pistol, Boltgun

++ Total: [93 PL, 1500pts] ++

remember that fabius cannot use his "blessing" while embarked on a transport...

Yes, the plan is to keep both chosen groups together and "bless" them both (one after another) after they have disembarked.