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Made in gb
Frenzied Berserker Terminator





East Yorkshire

So we have seen the ITC results from the first week but how about we get a Dakka results going? See if we can't compile our own data since the ITC results only covered 100 games.

Post the name of the armies that have played so far in your local group and how many games they have won so far, here is what we have so far:

Astra Militarium - 126W 75L
Space Marines - 103W 117L
Eldar - 66W 59L
Orks - 64W 88L
Tyranids - 63W 62L
Tau - 57W 69L
Dark Angels - 52W 54L
Dark Eldar - 50W 36L
Chaos Space Marines - 50W 66L
Space Wolves - 46W 42L
Necrons - 41W 53L
Ad mech - 33W 24L
Adepta Sororitas - 31W 8L
Thousand Sons - 30W 14L
Grey Knights - 27W 27L
Blood Angels - 26W 36L
Imperial Knights - 22W 16L
Daemons - 21W 21L
World Eaters - 16W 8L
Death Guard - 15W 30L
Fallen - 10W 12L
Ynnari - 10W 13L
Harlequins - 9W 9L
Deathwatch - 7W 15L
Emperors Children - 5W 1L
Inquisition - 5W 3L
Genestealer Cult - 4W 6L
Adeptus Custodes - 3W 4L
Renegade Guard - 2W 1L

Win percentages:


Word of warning, unless you want to get this thread locked, this thread is here to report battle results and to discuss whether an army is balance, OP or weak. Any discussion about specific units of an army (i.e. talking about conscripts, stormravens, etc.) is to be taken to a different thread.

Please post your results and I'll add them to the running total and try to order them as they change.

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Ghorros wrote:
The moral of the story: Don't park your Imperial Knight in a field of Gretchin carrying power tools.
 Marmatag wrote:
All the while, my opponent is furious, throwing his codex on the floor, trying to slash his wrists with safety scissors.
World Eaters - 8W 1D 1L 
   
Made in us
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Personally:
Imperial Guard vs. Space Marines
Imperial Guard vs. Orks
Sisters of Battle vs. Chaos Space Marines
Imperial Guard vs. Harlequins
Imperial Guard vs. Necrons
Sisters of Battle vs. Necrons
Imperial Guard vs. Renegade Guard
Sisters of Battle vs. Tyranids
Imperial Guard vs. Tyranids

I'm at 9 wins out of 9 games played, 3 with the Sisters and 6 with the Guard.

No small amount of being 9 for 9 is because I've been preparing and simulating list and developing counters and counter for the counters since the rules were leaked, while most of my friends are still trying to work out what's effective. I also brought a list with 2 tanks at 500 points to an opening-day event, which didn't make me friends.


Other games, mostly from the opening day event but a few from later: [Won vs. Lost]
Necrons vs. Orks
Chaos Space Marines vs. Space Marines
Orks vs. Space Marines
Imperial Guard vs. Space Marines
Imperial Guard vs. Imperial Guard
Renegade Guard vs. Necrons
Orks vs. Tau
Tau vs. Orks
Tyranids vs. Necrons

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Made in gb
Frenzied Berserker Terminator





East Yorkshire

 Inquisitor Lord Katherine wrote:
Personally:
Imperial Guard vs. Space Marines
Imperial Guard vs. Orks
Sisters of Battle vs. Chaos Space Marines
Imperial Guard vs. Harlequins
Imperial Guard vs. Necrons
Sisters of Battle vs. Necrons
Imperial Guard vs. Renegade Guard
Sisters of Battle vs. Tyranids
Imperial Guard vs. Tyranids

I'm at 9 wins out of 9 games played, 3 with the Sisters and 6 with the Guard.

No small amount of being 9 for 9 is because I've been preparing and simulating list and developing counters and counter for the counters since the rules were leaked, while most of my friends are still trying to work out what's effective. I also brought a list with 2 tanks at 500 points to an opening-day event, which didn't make me friends.

Even if you did prepare, that's an impressive streak to start the edition with! New scores have been added.

Ghorros wrote:
The moral of the story: Don't park your Imperial Knight in a field of Gretchin carrying power tools.
 Marmatag wrote:
All the while, my opponent is furious, throwing his codex on the floor, trying to slash his wrists with safety scissors.
World Eaters - 8W 1D 1L 
   
Made in us
Drop Trooper with Demo Charge





Littleton

Well I can say the exact opposite however Id say my results are a little skewed as well.
Imperial Guard vs Tyranids
winner: Tyranids
Imperial Guard and Ad Mech vs Space Wolves
Winner: Space Wolves

Though a lot of this is due to playing around with new units and general messing around, Im still not quite running the AM up to snuff.

 
   
Made in gb
Frenzied Berserker Terminator





East Yorkshire

 SplinteredShield wrote:
Well I can say the exact opposite however Id say my results are a little skewed as well.
Imperial Guard vs Tyranids
winner: Tyranids
Imperial Guard and Ad Mech vs Space Wolves
Winner: Space Wolves

Though a lot of this is due to playing around with new units and general messing around, Im still not quite running the AM up to snuff.

Updated. We'll all adjust eventually.

Ghorros wrote:
The moral of the story: Don't park your Imperial Knight in a field of Gretchin carrying power tools.
 Marmatag wrote:
All the while, my opponent is furious, throwing his codex on the floor, trying to slash his wrists with safety scissors.
World Eaters - 8W 1D 1L 
   
Made in us
Yellin' Yoof





I've played 2 games this weekend.
Orks V Tau
:Winner Tau
Orks V Deathwatch
:Winner Orks

EDIT; Other game in the store I watched
IG V Death Guard
:Winner IG

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Made in us
Unshakeable Grey Knight Land Raider Pilot




I've only been involved in two games because my group is so busy with other stuff right now, but:

Adeptus Custodes Vs. CSM: Winner CSM

Imperial Knights Vs. Tyranids: Winner Tyranids
   
Made in us
Renegade Kan Killin Orks




My games:

Dark Eldar wyches vs Imperial Guard tanks win
Dark Eldar wyches vs Ynnari win
Dark Eldar wyches vs Thousand Sons loss
Dark Eldar wyches vs Sisters of Battle win
Genestealer Cult vs Adeptus Mechanicus loss
Orks vs Space Marines win
Guard vs Guard win
Guard vs Space Wolves loss

And I have observed:

Ultramarines beat World Eaters
Eldar beat Admech
Guard beat Admech
Space Marines beat Guard

it's just a really random distribution. Things have been quite balanced so far.
   
Made in gb
Frenzied Berserker Terminator





East Yorkshire

Updated.
the_scotsman wrote:
it's just a really random distribution. Things have been quite balanced so far.

We'll have to see, if all armies get about a 50:50 win loss ratio then it's balanced.

Ghorros wrote:
The moral of the story: Don't park your Imperial Knight in a field of Gretchin carrying power tools.
 Marmatag wrote:
All the while, my opponent is furious, throwing his codex on the floor, trying to slash his wrists with safety scissors.
World Eaters - 8W 1D 1L 
   
Made in us
Hardened Veteran Guardsman






United States

Just got done with the Boise GT using 8th rules. I brought my Black Templars. My games were
vs. Khorne Bezerker army (win)
vs. Space wolves (win)
vs. Necrons (win)
vs. Blood Angels (loss)
vs. Ultramarines (loss)

The top 3 was Blood Angels, Ynnari, and Guilliman Marines. Not sure if there is any rhyme or reason to lists at the moment. Several factions with widely varying lists.

2500 pts  
   
Made in ca
Been Around the Block




Here are the following games I have played/seen. Also added in some information about the games for more info.

I myself have played the following:
Daemons vs Nids - Winner Daemons
Daemons vs Dark Eldar - Winner Daemons
Thousand Sons vs Orks - Winner Orks
Thousand Sons vs Blood Angels - Winner Thousand Sons (Angel player just getting back into the game since 5th)
Tzeentch (just 1k sons and the changeling) vs Orks - Winner Chaos

I have seen the following:
Imperial Guard (Conscript spam) vs Orks - Winner Guard (barely, though the Conscripts did shoot a Battle Wagon off the board. They also had Yarick)
Death Watch vs Daemons - Winner Death Watch (really new Daemon player)
Chaos Soup (Typhus, poxwalkers, and Knights) vs Imperials (had Guilman and gold marines left when I saw the table, player normally plays Custodes so I'm assuming they were killed) - Winner Chaos

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Made in gb
Wolf Guard Bodyguard in Terminator Armor



UK

Space wolves VS nids i won.
Wolves Vs orks today i won by a big margin.

So far doing well in 8th.
   
Made in br
Fireknife Shas'el




Brazil

Do very few games count? We're slowly learning rules and then will start playing more in July. For now, we had:

DA vs DE - DA victory (tight one)
SW vs DE - SW victory


Future 30k Thousand Sons player
Gue'vesa of the Greater Good. Join us if you want to live!  
   
Made in gb
Longtime Dakkanaut





UK

We're learning the rules so not a lot of games.

Orks vs Harlequins - Harlequins win
Orks vs Harlequins vs Craftworlds (1v1v1) - Eldar win

YMDC = nightmare 
   
Made in au
[DCM]
Lord of Contagion on a Palanquin of Pox Walkers





'Straya... Mate.

I am at a 50% win rate with my death guard, 50% loss where I didn't bring Spartan assault tank, and 50% win rate where I did take my Spartan assault tank

Death Guard really need a good fleshing out in their codex.

 
   
Made in us
Judgemental Grey Knight Justicar





East Bay, Ca, US

Some of these I've played in, some I've spectated. Personally I have done incredibly well in 8th edition, believe it or not. 4/4!

Blood Angels vs Orks; Blood Angels; BA went first
Grey Knights vs Daemons; Grey Knights; GK went first
Ultramarines vs Blood Angels; Ultramarines; BA went first
Ultramarines vs Daemons; Ultramarines; UM went first
Imperial Guard vs Imperial Guard; Imperial Guard; Winner went first
Imperial Guard vs Orks; Imperial Guard; Guard went first
Necrons vs Genestealers; Necrons; Necrons went first.
Dark Angels vs Harlequins; Dark Angels; Dark Angels went first
Dark Angels vs Orks; Orks; Dark Angels went first
Eldar vs Ultramarines; Eldar; Don't know who went first.
Ministorum vs Ultramarines; Ministorum; Don't know who went first.

I'm sure there are a couple i'm forgetting. I've watched quite a few.

There is a guard player at my shop who is just stomping all over people. I want to catch more of his games.

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My knights are weirdly grey.

To compute the probability of a specific outcome on N DK dice, use the generating function F= (x+ x^2 + x^3 + . . . + x^k-1 + x^k)^n
 
   
Made in gb
Frenzied Berserker Terminator





East Yorkshire

Updated.
 Rippy wrote:
I am at a 50% win rate with my death guard, 50% loss where I didn't bring Spartan assault tank, and 50% win rate where I did take my Spartan assault tank

Death Guard really need a good fleshing out in their codex.

Yeah, hopefully Morty can give them a good boost along with some cult units.


Automatically Appended Next Post:
I have to head off to sleep now so probably won't be able to update the data table for a while, I'll see you in the morning. (If one of the American or night owl members of the forum could keep updating over night so that I can copy paste into the OP when I wake up you'd be a lofe saver)

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Ghorros wrote:
The moral of the story: Don't park your Imperial Knight in a field of Gretchin carrying power tools.
 Marmatag wrote:
All the while, my opponent is furious, throwing his codex on the floor, trying to slash his wrists with safety scissors.
World Eaters - 8W 1D 1L 
   
Made in us
Regular Dakkanaut





I think Morty, a Terminator unit, and one tank of some kind/ maybe another drone of some kind with a bigger gun would fill them out. It would be roughly 1k sons equivalent.

 
   
Made in ca
Fresh-Faced New User




Here are my 2000 pt games;

My Army vs Opponent - My Result

Imperial Knights vs Orks - Loss
Imperial Knights vs Tyranids - Loss
Imperial Knights vs Deathguard -Win
Imperial Knights vs Deathguard -Win
Imperial Knights vs Deathguard -Win
Imperial Knights and Space Wolves vs Orks - Loss
Ad Mech vs Ultramarines - Win
Imperial Knights and Ad Mech vs Tyranids - Win
Imperial Knights and Ad Mech vs Black Legion - Win
Ad Mech vs Black Legion - Loss
Space Wolves vs Black Legion - Loss
Space Wolves vs Thousand Sons - Win
Imperial Knights vs Astra Militarum - Loss

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Made in us
Devious Space Marine dedicated to Tzeentch




Chaos vs Space Marines - Loss
Thousand Sons+Space Marines vs Imperial Guard+Genestealers - Win
Chaos vs Fallen - Win
Chaos vs Imperial Guard - Win
Chaos vs Imperial Guard - Win
Chaos vs Space Marines - Loss

"Chaos" meaning about a half/half mixture of Thousand Sons and Tzeentch Daemons. Note that our Space Marine player is the best in the group and our Imperial Guard player is... not, so these results aren't exactly indicative of how good the armies themselves are.
   
Made in ca
Stubborn Dark Angels Veteran Sergeant





Halifax, Nova Scotia

Chaos Space Marines vs. Orks - Loss
Eldar vs. Orks - Win

Have at least two more games this week, which should add some more data.
   
Made in it
Lustful Cultist of Slaanesh




italy

My army , opponent , result.
All 1500 pts, lots of LOS blocking, not min/maxed lists

Emp. children - ultramarines - win
Emp. Children - deathwing - win
Black legion - ultramarines - win
Black legion - world eaters - loss
   
Made in be
Enginseer with a Wrench





Belgium

All played with pure AdMech army, except the latest game where I added the Scions Start Collecting to try them out. If I recall correctly these are the results:

1000 pts vs Ynnari - Lost
1000 pts vs Imperium - Lost
1000 pts vs Primaris (Dark Imperium) - Won
1350 pts vs Aeldari - Lost
1000 pts vs Tyranids - Won

You have to know I'm limited in my army lists by the current models I own, and the Ynnari/Aeldari/Imperium player is one of the best players of my store, because he always write such powerful lists. The Imperium game was literally made of Guilliman, Cypher, Bjorn the Fell-Handed, Harald Deathwolf and some Tacticals, got obliterated (underestimated Guilliman). Now that I can add more variety in my army by the purchase of my Scions I may have more interesting results in the future.

Good idea by the way !

40K Mechanicus, starting a Drukhari army
AoS Vampire Counts

My Mechanicus army, the Noctholm Forge-World

 
   
Made in au
Stern Iron Priest with Thrall Bodyguard





Matches I've been in and seen so far

Blood Angels vs Dark Angels - Blood Angels win

Ultramarines vs Primaris Ultramarines - Ultramarines win

Death Guard vs Primaris - Death Guard win

Imperial Guard vs Space Wolves - IG win my loss

Sisters vs Tyrannids - Sisters win

Tyrannids vs Tau - Tyrannids win

GSC vs Primaris - GSC win

Primaris vs Death Guard - Primaris win

Necrons vs Craftworld Eldar - Necrons win

Tyrannids vs Craftworld Eldar - Tyrannids win

GSC/Tyrannids vs Space Wolves - GSC/Tyrannids win my loss

Deathwatch vs Tau - Deathwatch win my win

Dark Angels vs Tyrannids - Dark Angels win

Imperial Guard vs Tau - Imperial Guard win

Tyrannids vs Ultramarines - Tyrannids win

Space Wolves vs Imperial Guard - Space Wolves win my win

Tau vs Necrons - Tau win

Necrons vs Tau - Necrons win

Space Wolves vs Dark Angels - Space Wolves win

Space Wolves vs Ultramarines - Draw me

Necrons vs Deathwatch - Necrons win

Necrons vs Craftworld Eldar - Necrons win

Necrons vs Ultramarines - Necrons win

Necrons vs Sisters of Battle - Necrons win

Deathwatch vs Deathwatch - oddly enough Deathwatch win my win

Deathwatch vs Necrons - Deathwatch win my win

Ultramarines vs Deathwatch - Ultramarines win

Space Wolves vs Blood Angels - Space Wolves win

The other Space Wolves player is better than me, looking forward to a game against him on the weekend, he signed us to a grudge match in the first round of a 2000 point tournament.

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I don't break the rules but I'll bend them as far as they'll go. 
   
Made in us
Nurgle Veteran Marine with the Flu






Deamons vs Death Guard:
Winner Death guard


9k  
   
Made in us
Locked in the Tower of Amareo




BA, even when played poorly by myself, beat Orks.
   
Made in gb
Avatar of the Bloody-Handed God





A vacuum where wargaming is impossible :C

200 pts Eldar vs Ultramarines = Eldar Win.
200 pts Eldar vs Ultramarines = Ultramarine Win (Same battle replayed).
500 pts Eldar vs Ultramarines = Eldar Win (By default after inappropriate behaviour by the other player, who could very easily have won).

So... mine are a little murky.

Some people don't know how to use "There", "Their" and "They're" properly. Here's a helpful video. TLDR; "There" is for direction (The hat is there). "Their" is for possession (It is their ball). "They're" is short for "They are" (They're going to get lunch). I am seeing so many of these errors it is giving me the blood pressure of a 250lb 50 year old with two sick kids. /Public Announcement. 
   
Made in ru
Frenzied Berserker Terminator





East Yorkshire

Updated. Seems most factions are getting a 50:50 split now.

Ghorros wrote:
The moral of the story: Don't park your Imperial Knight in a field of Gretchin carrying power tools.
 Marmatag wrote:
All the while, my opponent is furious, throwing his codex on the floor, trying to slash his wrists with safety scissors.
World Eaters - 8W 1D 1L 
   
Made in gb
On a Canoptek Spyder's Waiting List



Salisbury, UK

Adeptus Custodes vs Deathwatch - Custodes win
Necrons vs Eldar - Eldar win
Necrons Vs Space Wolves - Draw
   
Made in us
Fresh-Faced New User





Eldar vs. SOB vs. Imperial Knights: Loss
Eldar vs. Blood Angels: Win
Death Guard vs. Tyranids: Win
Death Guard vs Imperial Guard / SM : Win
Death Guard vs Orks: Loss
   
 
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