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2017/06/29 01:49:45
Subject: Weird Artifacts with Washes
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Fresh-Faced New User
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With the release of 8th edition and all the good things I've heard about it (I never actually finished a game of 7th edition :/ ) I'm really excited to get back into the hobby! I haven't had a chance to play or get any of the new books, but I have had a chance to paint. Jumped straight back into painting the Canoptek Wraith I was working on when I last took a break about four months ago, and I'm having some issues.
I've been following a GW guide I found online for one of the necron color schemes from the codex. He's putting on a layer of leadbelcher and then using two layers of nuln oil and two layers of agrax earthshade to blacken the metal, not just darken it. Somehow I'm just tinting the metal, and despite trying to put down an even layer of wash, am getting a lot of spots and streaks in my paint.
I've attached the instructions & results I'm trying to follow, and the results that I'm getting. If anyone could help me figure out what I'm doing wrong, that would be greatly appreciated! It would suck to have to start over from a base coat.
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2017/06/29 05:59:54
Subject: Weird Artifacts with Washes
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Did you shake the pot before using the wash?
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2017/06/29 06:01:18
Subject: Re:Weird Artifacts with Washes
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Nurgle Predator Driver with an Infestation
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It looks like the spray either dried up to fast(being too far away from the model when spaying does this) or has too much humidity(in the air) before it hit the model. That's why it looks like that. Only way to really get rid of it is to start from scratch. Strip it down and have another go at it.
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2017/06/29 10:07:14
Subject: Weird Artifacts with Washes
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Jovial Plaguebearer of Nurgle
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I agree with the above of stripping and trying again, what i have found is a more gloss finish ends up with the wash flowing to the recesses and a more matte finish leaves more on the larger flatter surfaces.
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2017/06/29 19:56:43
Subject: Weird Artifacts with Washes
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I have to agree with the others above me. It looks like a spray issue. Also are you applying all of the layers at once or waiting for it to dry between layers? Inks, I find, take a bit longer to fully dry and applying a second layer can sometimes "wash" away the first layer. It sometimes works if you like blending the colors but otherwise can result in multiple layers of ink looking rather "thin".
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2017/06/29 23:01:36
Subject: Weird Artifacts with Washes
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The guide doesn't say anything about spraying, but I agree it looks like it. I've also seen this over metallic paint. The wash doesn't want to lay normally and it beads on the surface like water on a waxed car. This could happen if you are mixing a lot of water in with the wash, the pot wasn't shaken good enough, or the wash is just bad. I'd recommend stripping it down too. Maybe try adding a tiny bit of dishwashing soap to your wash mix. That will break the surface tension and it should go on smoother. Good luck!.
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2017/06/30 00:17:29
Subject: Re:Weird Artifacts with Washes
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Thanks for the tips! I definitely should've shaken the pot more than I did I haven't used it for a few months. I'm waiting at least an hour between layers, so I don't think that's the issue.
What I did on the model was (1) airbrush a base of Valejo primer, (2) airbrush a coat of leadbelcher, and then I applied the wash with a brush. Do people think the instructions are saying to airbrush the wash on as well? I could try that. It would explain how he got it so dark with a wash.
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2017/06/30 01:55:12
Subject: Weird Artifacts with Washes
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Making Stuff
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No, the wash wouldn't be airbrushed. I suspect you're just not using thick enough coats... To get the dark effect shown in that pic, you would need to use either fairly heavy coats of wash, or a lot of them.
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2017/06/30 02:25:03
Subject: Weird Artifacts with Washes
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insaniak wrote:No, the wash wouldn't be airbrushed. I suspect you're just not using thick enough coats... To get the dark effect shown in that pic, you would need to use either fairly heavy coats of wash, or a lot of them.
Agreed.
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