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Previous rmours were said to be false by the usual rumour mongers, who are trusted, but it seems that previous rumours were correct!

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/07/05/your-codex-is-coming-july-5gw-homepage-post-1/

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AlexHolker wrote:At this stage, I'm starting to think GW's CEO was just getting ready for the Rapture
 
   
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Seriously? You didn't expect Space marines to be one of the first codexes?
   
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To be fair the rumours didn't say no codecs soon they said the list and titles and timelines of 2 a month is fake.
And this article proves it's wrong as greyknights are the second codex release.

I'm actually glad my main army is not the first codex as gw is still fixing the index versions of the dataslates which I'm sure are 99% copy and paste. Gw needs at least 1 more major FAQ/errata to fix a few more mistakes and some major imbalance issues. Primarily I think plasmaguns/pistols need to be nerfed to str6 base str7 overcharged. As this will make grenade launchers viable and deep strike melta viable alternatives which mathematically plasmaguns out perform both other weapon options.

I also wouldn't mind seeing conscript blobs reduce to max 20 or 30 models making commands less efficient for them.

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I thought Primaris would be one of the first and I have no interest in them......

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AlexHolker wrote:At this stage, I'm starting to think GW's CEO was just getting ready for the Rapture
 
   
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oh great, yet another 40k thread. Can't have enough of those! And confirming something that was obviously happening? I might need a sit down!

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From the codex faq:

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/07/05/codexes-your-questions-answered-july-5gw-homepage-post-2/

Points will change. Rules will change. Some units are NOT in the codex so you will also need your index.

I'm glad they are already fixing points and rules! Maybe some of the new OP units (IG, looking at you) will get fixed asap.
   
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It astonishes me that anyone who knows anything at all about 40k did not see this coming. Codex space marines is always one of the first books in a new edition.
When they first previewed 40k in March they said that codexes which superceded the index books would be coming.
They only surprise is the speed at which they are coming. 10 by Christmas is impressive. With the 4 revealed it seems a safe bet that we will see admech and necrons too. Any bets on the other 4?
   
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So the first 4 codexs will be space marines of some colour/spikyness. Who wants to bet the next 5 after that will be Deathwatch, Thousand Sons, Blood Angels, Space Wolves and Dark Angels.

Enough with the fething space marines GW, in the last 2 years we've had all of 2 major none Power Armour releases (Tau and GSC), by October that number goes down to 1.
   
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gungo wrote:
To be fair the rumours didn't say no codecs soon they said the list and titles and timelines of 2 a month is fake.
And this article proves it's wrong as greyknights are the second codex release.

I'm actually glad my main army is not the first codex as gw is still fixing the index versions of the dataslates which I'm sure are 99% copy and paste. Gw needs at least 1 more major FAQ/errata to fix a few more mistakes and some major imbalance issues. Primarily I think plasmaguns/pistols need to be nerfed to str6 base str7 overcharged. As this will make grenade launchers viable and deep strike melta viable alternatives which mathematically plasmaguns out perform both other weapon options.


10 codex in 5 months is indeed 2 per month.........

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It won't be Sisters.

This feels like a massive cash grab. I'm actually pretty upset that after buying all 5 indexes and the rule book they are going to get invalided pretty shortly after.

They should have made the indexes free or next to free. This is kind of outrageous and upsetting.

Most of us are going to buy the rules for the addition at least twice at this point.
   
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Slave wrote:
gungo wrote:
To be fair the rumours didn't say no codecs soon they said the list and titles and timelines of 2 a month is fake.
And this article proves it's wrong as greyknights are the second codex release.

I'm actually glad my main army is not the first codex as gw is still fixing the index versions of the dataslates which I'm sure are 99% copy and paste. Gw needs at least 1 more major FAQ/errata to fix a few more mistakes and some major imbalance issues. Primarily I think plasmaguns/pistols need to be nerfed to str6 base str7 overcharged. As this will make grenade launchers viable and deep strike melta viable alternatives which mathematically plasmaguns out perform both other weapon options.


10 codex in 5 months is indeed 2 per month.........
except its 6 months since they are coming in July.
   
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Huh, hardcover codex... I wonder if this will be again at the old price point of codices.

   
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 Hanskrampf wrote:
Huh, hardcover codex... I wonder if this will be again at the old price point of codices.


I do wish they offered both hard and softback codices...but I understand them not doing it for financial reasons.

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I'm glad we all collectively fell for the codex racket yet again. So Blood Angels have to use the units in the "Space Marine" section of the Index but can't use those same units in the upcoming Space Marine codex? Thanks.

1 month in and we'll already need double the amount of books to play due to that bizarre decision.

If you're going to homogenize all the space marine chapters to use a single list (IE index) then it makes sense to include them in a new codex!

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Rynner wrote:
It won't be Sisters.

This feels like a massive cash grab. I'm actually pretty upset that after buying all 5 indexes and the rule book they are going to get invalided pretty shortly after.

They should have made the indexes free or next to free. This is kind of outrageous and upsetting.

Most of us are going to buy the rules for the addition at least twice at this point.

Genuine questions, why did you buy all 5 books? Have you used every index in games already? Did you not expect codexes to come out? Are you upset that they are coming out too fast?
   
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ListenToMeWarriors wrote:
 Hanskrampf wrote:
Huh, hardcover codex... I wonder if this will be again at the old price point of codices.


I do wish they offered both hard and softback codices...but I understand them not doing it for financial reasons.

They do short printings now of the hardbacks. If you want a softback, wait a month or two if it's a popular army.
   
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Chikout wrote:
Rynner wrote:
It won't be Sisters.

This feels like a massive cash grab. I'm actually pretty upset that after buying all 5 indexes and the rule book they are going to get invalided pretty shortly after.

They should have made the indexes free or next to free. This is kind of outrageous and upsetting.

Most of us are going to buy the rules for the addition at least twice at this point.

Genuine questions, why did you buy all 5 books? Have you used every index in games already? Did you not expect codexes to come out? Are you upset that they are coming out too fast?


Yes as I have an army that was featured in every book and run events, hence I needed all 5.

I expected them to come out but less than a month after gouging us on the indexes is a bit much.

I can't be the only one who feels this way nor the only one that bought all 5 indexes, regardless of whether or not they have an army in every faction.
   
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Rynner wrote:

I can't be the only one who feels this way nor the only one that bought all 5 indexes, regardless of whether or not they have an army in every faction.


Good job that it's very likely all 5 indexes will still have unique content at the end of the year then!
   
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 xttz wrote:
Rynner wrote:

I can't be the only one who feels this way nor the only one that bought all 5 indexes, regardless of whether or not they have an army in every faction.


Good job that it's very likely all 5 indexes will still have unique content at the end of the year then!


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 Kanluwen wrote:
ListenToMeWarriors wrote:
 Hanskrampf wrote:
Huh, hardcover codex... I wonder if this will be again at the old price point of codices.


I do wish they offered both hard and softback codices...but I understand them not doing it for financial reasons.

They do short printings now of the hardbacks. If you want a softback, wait a month or two if it's a popular army.

This. Hardbacks are almost another 'limited edition' nowadays.

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I only got the one index book that has nids and genestealers in it, since those are my 2 main armies, so it worked out for me. And I figured those 2 probably aren't high on the redo list. The indexes were a good idea though, for everyone but space marines. They always do space marines first when there's a new edition, because space marines.

 
   
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Hah, was just wondering if the SM codex will have FW chapters in there. Decided on Red Scorpions to accompany the Fists but realised their chapter tactics will most likely be in Fires of Cyraxus.

Ohhh yes Im just stoked for expanded lore on the Xenos and non SM in general! Forge World Graia tactics please!

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This was obviously going to happen, so I'm not surprised. However, I am concerned if it ends up being that you will need the rulebook, the index, and the specific army book to cover an entire faction...that would be bad.
   
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Wait, so are we mad that GW is releasing the Codexes in a timely fashion, or are we mad that they didn't leave us with zero rules between the eighth release and when your Codex comes out?

 
   
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 AduroT wrote:
Wait, so are we mad that GW is releasing the Codexes in a timely fashion, or are we mad that they didn't leave us with zero rules between the eighth release and when your Codex comes out?


I'm personally mad because I feel dubbed that I spent so much on indexes are going to basically be nothing more than tinder to keep me warm in the winter so soon after the launch.
   
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Rynner wrote:
 AduroT wrote:
Wait, so are we mad that GW is releasing the Codexes in a timely fashion, or are we mad that they didn't leave us with zero rules between the eighth release and when your Codex comes out?


I'm personally mad because I feel dubbed that I spent so much on indexes are going to basically be nothing more than tinder to keep me warm in the winter so soon after the launch.


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Wow, the new structure is just... super cumbersome, in that it's a place they'll be keeping a few legacy entries once the rest of the contents are replaced. And it feels pretty lame that some are getting replaced so quickly: with the turnaround/development time for books, it's pretty safe to assume that the first wave of codexes will have seen no open player feedback, and it's pretty likely that they just decided to sell dumbed down and regular versions that they were developing at the same time, to the point that I wouldn't be surprised if they just stripped down the index entries.

I like the general core rules of the new edition, but with this awkward overlap, deceptive communication, and FW dropping the ball pretty hard, I'm not all that confident.


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I am mad that I literally ordered my index 1 last night, and because the Space Marine Codex isn't available for pre-order yet, I just wasted $20. Only 2 days back in the game and GW let me down already.


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Rynner wrote:
 AduroT wrote:
Wait, so are we mad that GW is releasing the Codexes in a timely fashion, or are we mad that they didn't leave us with zero rules between the eighth release and when your Codex comes out?


I'm personally mad because I feel dubbed that I spent so much on indexes are going to basically be nothing more than tinder to keep me warm in the winter so soon after the launch.


It's going to take them over a year to get all of the Codexes out. Which armies did you not want to have rules for for a full year?

 
   
 
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