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I've played 1 game with this list so far and I am pretty happy with how it performed on the first test run. It has long range shooting, mobility, good assault power, and staying power. I did notice that I think it may need an Elysian Commissar to drop in to keep the veterans in line. Here is the list. I have 54 points to spend. what do you all think? Trying to get this to competitive status.

CP:5

--Battalion-- The Anvil
HQ
Lord Commissar w/ sword and bolt pistol
Tempestor Prime w/ rod & powerfist (questioning the powerfist)

Troops
50x Conscripts
5x Scions w/ 2x plasma
5x scions w/ 2x plasma

Elite
Platoon commander (was a company cc, but he only ever stays with the conscripts...)
Astropath w/ laspistol - for that +1 save to the conscripts...in ruins they have a 3+ save

Heavy
3x Earthshaker battery
2x heavy quad launchers
Manticore

--Vanguard-- The Air Calvary aka the hammer
HQ
Elysian company commander - plasma pistol & powerfist (questioning the powerfist)

Elite
Elysian Command squad - 4x plasma
Elysian Veteran Squad - 3x plasma
Elysian Veteran Squad - 3x plasma
Elysian Officer of the fleet

Heavy
Elysian Heavy weapons squad 3x heavy bolter
Elysian Heavy weapons squad 3x mortar (for 3 more points a squad you get deepstrike, wont always use, but nice to have? may make these cadians)

Flyer
Vulture Gunship - if it hovers/sits still with an officer of the fleet (who deep strikes) then 2+ to hit.

--Vanguard-- The scalpel of the ministry
HQ
Celestine w/ 2x Geminae Superia

Elite
Priest w/ power maul (stays with the blob and a good target for counter charging)
Eversor Assassin
Callidus Assassin



This list has the ability to maintain board control and pack quite a whallop. It will almost always go second (which is okay). generally starts the game with the artillery on the board with the blob of conscripts out front and the priest, astropath, commissar and the squad leader sandwiched in between with celestine standing directly behind the front lines (first turn charges will be met with a celestine heroic intervention and 2 rounds of close combat come my turn 1).

The rest is in reserve awaiting the right opportunity to deep strike against their preferred target. What do you all think? Please help me figure out how to better this list.

(I am aware that Elysian plasma guns are messed up right now, but unless i am at a tournament with 'that guy' I will use them like any other plasma gun)

After some play testing with this list, I removed all the power fists, added a commissar for the Elysians, and gave everyone who could take a plasma pistol a plasma pistol. Removed one of the germs from st Celestine and each independent character has a power sword/axe/maul.

Will play test again soon, but this list has rocked a grey Knight alpha strike list a couple times (couldn't deal with the beta strike back with the assassin's and plasma). Should be going against some new space Marine chapter tactics soon. And hopefully some nids.

Began converting the new weapons of this list.

Any input? Been playing with losing guard for years, nice to see them putting up a good fight again.

Are you aware that you have a 2+ chance for another act of faith which isn't usable anywhere in your list right now?

Heavy bolter retributiors or melta packing dominions in a transport can make good use of that extra shooting phase.

Did they FAQ the elysian plasma to be 2 damage not 3 yet? If not, just add a couple more commander / commander squads and just win every game.

I like the idea of the added celestine

 Captain Joystick wrote:
Are you aware that you have a 2+ chance for another act of faith which isn't usable anywhere in your list right now?

Heavy bolter retributiors or melta packing dominions in a transport can make good use of that extra shooting phase.

I like this idea. Could drop the heavy weapon teams for the retributors since they put out more shots a turn on a more durable body and a better ballistic skill

dabush wrote:
Did they FAQ the elysian plasma to be 2 damage not 3 yet? If not, just add a couple more commander / commander squads and just win every game.

I like the idea of the added celestine

Not that I've seen yet for the plasma gun. Looks like they did it for the pistol though.

And Celestine I feel gives the army added pressure as a great hyper aggressive harassment unit. Just make sure to reserve a command reroll for her.

Took a toned down version of this earlier today against a Tau list telling him I was looking for a tough fight. ... He wasn't bringing the most competitive list focusing on broadsides and crisis suits with farsight leading them. It was rough for him.

There were mistakes made, but ended up nearly tabling him and calling it on turn two. So much firepower. And a really good beta strike after he dropped in hurt bad.

How have the quad launchers performed for you? I just purchased 1 off of shapeways to test out.

Are you planning to squish in Retributors? I think with that swapping out for the heavy weapons squads, you will be making some serious $$$.

Looks like a really mean list. How do you handle the 3 elysian plasma squads with only 2 orders?

 Colonel Cross wrote:
How have the quad launchers performed for you? I just purchased 1 off of shapeways to test out.

Are you planning to squish in Retributors? I think with that swapping out for the heavy weapons squads, you will be making some serious $$$.

Looks like a really mean list. How do you handle the 3 elysian plasma squads with only 2 orders?

Quad launchers on avg pull down about 4-5 Marines a turn together. I am liking them and no one seems to want to Target them

I am thinking about the retributors... But sisters carrying a heavy bolter is about $22 a model on eBay. So much. Where for art thou plastic sisters?!

With the FAQ the Elysian officer of the fleet gives his ability to Elysian instead of aeronautica... So there is another reroll to 1s. This can even free up orders for "bring it down" "get back in the fight" or "forwards for the emperah"

Elysians are so good.

Went against death guard today. So... Durable... But had a strong lead by the end and much more firepower still available.

Ok cool I look forward to trying out the quad mortars and heavy mortars I just got. Just nice to try different stuff even though I'm pretty sure we have more efficient units to do the same thing.

You should check out Dreamforge Games. Their Valkir heavy weapons kit + female heads = damn close looking SoB Retributers when painted. I'm so close to pulling the trigger myself since I hate not being able to use Celestine to her full potential. I've been waiting to see if any GW rumors or leaks show plastic sisters but it looks doubtful with all the Marine and Death Guard kits incoming.

http://photobucket.com/gallery/user/aradia1982/media/cGF0aDovc29icHJvamVjdF96cHN5ejFlanUxYS5qcGc=/?ref=

http://statuesqueminiatures.mobile034.com/p/9147497/sma302-heroic-scale-female-heads-2.html

Elysians do look really fun and cool to play. Too bad they're FW only. I just have tons of Catachans and Cadians. So crazy to think the kits are practically unchanged since I started playing back in like 3rd edition!

 Smotejob wrote:

I am thinking about the retributors... But sisters carrying a heavy bolter is about $22 a model on eBay. So much. Where for art thou plastic sisters?!

They're only $14 per model on GW's site, and having worked with them I recommend starting with an unpainted one, mounting it on a larger base and pinning it thoroughly.


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Don't get me wrong though, it's still expensive.

A fully kitted out retributor squad with 5 bolters, 4 heavy bolters and a superior kitted to taste would cost somewhere around $101-103 USD.