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Serpent shields question.

"Any damage suffered by a Wave Serpent from a ranged weapon is reduced by 1, to a minimum of 1. "

Is this total damaged caused for a single weapon. For example a twin Autocannon Heavy-4 D2. If all 4 shots wound and cause 8 damage total, is this reduced to 7?

OR

Is it per wounding hit? So each of the 4 shots that successfully wound are each reduced by 1, so the total wounds would be 4.

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The second. Each wound does damage individually, they don't pool together.

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 BaconCatBug wrote:
The second. Each wound does damage individually, they don't pool together.


Can you give further clarification on why this is?

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If you fail a save vs the Autocannon you take 2 damage. The Shield then reduces that to 1.

Any other "failed saves" have no effect on the damage done from 1 failed save.
   
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You take saves and take damage one wound at a time. This is under Fast Dice Rolling on page 179. So, the wave serpent would get allocated 4 wounds. It would take a single save for the first wound. It would then take 2 damage if it did not save, reduced to 1 for its shield. Then you'd resolve the next wound. Rinse and repeat.

The reason it is getting muddied is because you're lumping all the saves together (which is perfectly fine, if everyone understands the rules).

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Zelcon01 wrote:
 BaconCatBug wrote:
The second. Each wound does damage individually, they don't pool together.


Can you give further clarification on why this is? I'm having a small disagreement over it with someone.
I can't give further clarification because there isn't any to give. The rules in the massive 8 page tome are clear on how the order of dice work for wounding and damage.

Because some people get their knickers in a twist, I'll list these in my sig: RaW you cannot advance and then fire assault weapons, you can't shoot pistols if within 1" of an enemy, "minimum" ranges don't work, Seraphim have to re-roll saves that "fail" pre-re-roll, the game simply breaks if you ever have more than one wounded model in a unit, Khârn punches himself in the face if he's not near some meatshields and the Mordian doctrine doesn't do very much.

"Your presence does not surprise me, Assassin. I have known of you ever since your craft entered the Eastern Fringes. Why did I not have you killed? Because your mission and the act you are about to commit proves the truth of all I have ever said or done. I merely punished those who had wronged, just as your False Emperor now seeks to punish me. Death is nothing compared to vindication." - Konrad Curze, Primarch of the Night Lords

"I PUNCHED OUT ONE OF HIS HEARTS! WHY DOES NOBODY REMEMBER THAT?!" - Magnus the Red, Primarch of the Thousand Sons 
   
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I can't give further clarification because there isn't any to give. The rules in the massive 8 page tome are clear on how the order of dice work for wounding and damage.

Okay. Cheers anyway.


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 puma713 wrote:
You take saves and take damage one wound at a time. This is under Fast Dice Rolling on page 179. So, the wave serpent would get allocated 4 wounds. It would take a single save for the first wound. It would then take 2 damage if it did not save, reduced to 1 for its shield. Then you'd resolve the next wound. Rinse and repeat.

The reason it is getting muddied is because you're lumping all the saves together (which is perfectly fine, if everyone understands the rules).



This was very useful. Thanks.

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