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Towering Hierophant Bio-Titan



UK

Hi Folks,

I'm struggling to figure out where I can find the information on how to score/control an objective, with the 8th edition rulebook.

Objective secured is no longer a thing, do troop choices have a special role? Or are they simply generally cheaper bodies and help fill up a FOC.

Are there any limitations or special considerations?

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The missions tell you who can control objectives.
Default seems to be: measure from the centre of the objective, player with most models in 3" controls it.

   
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Oregon, USA

Which is where troop choices often shine.

Bury the thing in bodies

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 Ascalam wrote:
Which is where troop choices often shine.

Bury the thing in bodies
But a vehicle counts as a model and would score?

I've found in previous editions, often objectives are (when the dust settles) uncontested, at least in some cases.

If that's the case, awesome!

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Friend of mine just sent me this:

"The Tyranid Codex, where I learned the truth about despair, as will you. There's a reason why this codex is the worst hell on earth... Hope. ."
Too be fair.. it's all worked out quite well!

Heh.  
   
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New Orleans

Razerous wrote:
 Ascalam wrote:
Which is where troop choices often shine.

Bury the thing in bodies
But a vehicle counts as a model and would score?

I've found in previous editions, often objectives are (when the dust settles) uncontested, at least in some cases.

If that's the case, awesome!


That's how I understand it,
so DeffKoptas and Buggies running around at the last round to pick up extra victory points!
   
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Dallas area, TX

If you are not going to take tons of models to swarm objectives, you'll need enough tough models to bully them off.
This is really the only way Knights and other armies with a few big models can claim objectives.
They will never have more models on an objective then their opponent....unless the Knight itself is on the objective preventing any other model from being within 3" from the center of it.

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Oregon, USA

 NOLA Chris wrote:
Razerous wrote:
 Ascalam wrote:
Which is where troop choices often shine.

Bury the thing in bodies
But a vehicle counts as a model and would score?

I've found in previous editions, often objectives are (when the dust settles) uncontested, at least in some cases.

If that's the case, awesome!


That's how I understand it,
so DeffKoptas and Buggies running around at the last round to pick up extra victory points!


They can score. Everything can now,

However, in the case of a contested objective the unit with the most models on the objective controls it.

Hence my recommendation to bury the thing in bodies. Two guardsmen sharing an objective with Magnus the Red would still be enough to play keep away and claim the objective at the end of the game.

The Viletide: Daemons of Nurgle/Deathguard: 7400 pts
Disclples of the Dragon - Ad Mech - about 2000 pts
GSC - about 2000 Pts
Rhulic Mercs - um...many...
Circle Oroboros - 300 Pts or so
Menoth - 300+ pts
 
   
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Malicious Mutant Scum




Whitby uk

 Ascalam wrote:
 NOLA Chris wrote:
Razerous wrote:
 Ascalam wrote:
Which is where troop choices often shine.

Bury the thing in bodies
But a vehicle counts as a model and would score?

I've found in previous editions, often objectives are (when the dust settles) uncontested, at least in some cases.

If that's the case, awesome!


That's how I understand it,
so DeffKoptas and Buggies running around at the last round to pick up extra victory points!


They can score. Everything can now,

However, in the case of a contested objective the unit with the most models on the objective controls it.

Hence my recommendation to bury the thing in bodies. Two guardsmen sharing an objective with Magnus the Red would still be enough to play keep away and claim the objective at the end of the game.


Sorry to bring up an old post but something came up recently. Where does it say in the brb everything can take objectives? Specifically for open war.
My SM codex gives the rules that troops always takes regardless of size of unit but that's all I can find.

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 Galef wrote:
If you are not going to take tons of models to swarm objectives, you'll need enough tough models to bully them off.
This is really the only way Knights and other armies with a few big models can claim objectives.
They will never have more models on an objective then their opponent....unless the Knight itself is on the objective preventing any other model from being within 3" from the center of it.

-

Is it legal to put a large model directly on top of an objective?
   
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 Galef wrote:
If you are not going to take tons of models to swarm objectives, you'll need enough tough models to bully them off.
This is really the only way Knights and other armies with a few big models can claim objectives.
They will never have more models on an objective then their opponent....unless the Knight itself is on the objective preventing any other model from being within 3" from the center of it.

-


Knights that are characters count as 10 models for objective scoring IIRC
   
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Automated Rubric Marine of Tzeentch





UK

grr wrote:
Sorry to bring up an old post but something came up recently. Where does it say in the brb everything can take objectives? Specifically for open war.
My SM codex gives the rules that troops always takes regardless of size of unit but that's all I can find.

From various missions in the BRB and the first page of the Tactical Objectives section:

"A player controls an objective marker if they have more models within 3" of the centre of it than their opponent does."

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 Brother Castor wrote:
grr wrote:
Sorry to bring up an old post but something came up recently. Where does it say in the brb everything can take objectives? Specifically for open war.
My SM codex gives the rules that troops always takes regardless of size of unit but that's all I can find.

From various missions in the BRB and the first page of the Tactical Objectives section:

"A player controls an objective marker if they have more models within 3" of the centre of it than their opponent does."


meanwhile in most armies troops have objective secured and will always take an objective irregardless of numbers (obviously if you have two units contesting both with this rule it goes away) the notable exception to this is custodfes whom are ALL Objective secured.

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Sure but the question was where in the BRB does it say that any type of unit can control an objective, hence the quote I provided. For SM, Defenders of Humanity does allow Troops units to ignore the bit about having more models, but other units can also control objectives.

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2018/07/28 07:03:54


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