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1996 pt
catacomb command barge, gaus cannon, warshyte 169pt
orikan the diviner 143pt

10 immortals,gaus 170pt
10 immortals,gaus 170pt
18 warriors 216pt

ctan deceiver 225pt
10 lychguards,warshyte 300pt

5 tomb blades,nebuloscope,shieldvanes,baus 225pt

night shyte 174pt
night shyte 174pt


20 immortals on nightshytes wil be trasported by deciver ability to get in half range and shot 2. im not sure BUT units landig out from shytes works normal during the current turn so its possible to charge at turn 1 with lychguards .
Others ( orikan , catacomb ,warriors and lychguards) move to get closer and tomb blade for objectives.

Units deploied: 7(2 qg, warriors,tombs,deciver,2 shytes) . mean probably to be first

Fire on enemy units at turn 1 :8 tesla destructors hit+deciver s power or /40 gaus blaster with immortals/36 gaus flyer+ 20 gaus blaster/36 flyer or 20 gaus blaster + lychguard s charge. other units "away" from the engage trick are not counted

Wait so Immortals are coming out of scythes? Or lychguard?

Regardless, nothing in this list can charge T1. The vehicles aren't transports and units that are 'deepstruck' onto the board cannot charge t1.

Yeah specifically the Deceiver's rule says these unit cannot charge turn 1 so whatever gets placed with him or the deceiver itself couldn't charge.

Units coming out of the night scythe though could totally charge. There is nothing I see to prevent that and it would be a cool tactic.

 PFI wrote:
Yeah specifically the Deceiver's rule says these unit cannot charge turn 1 so whatever gets placed with him or the deceiver itself couldn't charge.

Units coming out of the night scythe though could totally charge. There is nothing I see to prevent that and it would be a cool tactic.

Yep my bad, they can charge, just not move that turn. So it's an 8" charge for the lychguard if coming out of the GI night scythe.

Nightshyte deploied At 9(with deciver),lychguards disembark At maximum 3 from the shyte so they Will be At 6 from The enemy unit. Charge at 6 Will be quite Easy

Canoptek spyder wrote:
Nightshyte deploied At 9(with deciver),lychguards disembark At maximum 3 from the shyte so they Will be At 6 from The enemy unit. Charge at 6 Will be quite Easy

The deceiver forces you to deploy more than 12 inches from an enemy unit before the beginning of turn 1. The way I see it is you deploy the nightsycthe with the deceiver 12" away before turn 1. You then deploy the lychguard 3 inches from the nightsycthe at the beginning of the turn. They are then free to move AND charge (5" charge I believe) that turn. Am I missing something?

Sounds like a very solid tactic to me.

Yes, you can't move but can charge when getting out of a scythe.

Then I'm definitely missing something. Where does it say you can't move?

They Can move and charge

Units coming out of Monoliths/Night Scythes suffer the penalties of units arriving from reserve, which prevents them from moving the turn they show up. So you GI the Night Scythe 12" away, deploy the infantry 3" forward, then need a 9" charge.

The only way to do better is to GI a Ghost Ark containing Zhandrek within 12", Z diembarks and moves/advances 8 + D6" then Vargard Obyrn teleports lichguard 6" further forward.

For an "all in" list you probably want 2 Monoliths/Night Scythes being GI within 12", drop out 2 rapid fire units and Deepstrike Flayed ones and Deathmarks in along side. Some games you will overwhelm people, most games you will be punished for jumping in close and not having the short range killing power to make it worth it.

Disembarking from a night scythe or monolith follow the same rules as disembarking from any other transport. Must be with in 3" of the transport, and can not be closer than 1" to any enemy. After that, they act as normal. So they can move and charge.

The only thing that is different about the night sythe and monolith is that the units are not technically IN the transport.

MurderMouth wrote:
Disembarking from a night scythe or monolith follow the same rules as disembarking from any other transport. Must be with in 3" of the transport, and can not be closer than 1" to any enemy. After that, they act as normal. So they can move and charge.

The only thing that is different about the night sythe and monolith is that the units are not technically IN the transport.

They aren't transports. No transport keyword.

Ghost arks are transports, but thats all we got it seems.

Moosatronic Warrior wrote:
Units coming out of Monoliths/Night Scythes suffer the penalties of units arriving from reserve, which prevents them from moving the turn they show up. So you GI the Night Scythe 12" away, deploy the infantry 3" forward, then need a 9" charge.

The only way to do better is to GI a Ghost Ark containing Zhandrek within 12", Z diembarks and moves/advances 8 + D6" then Vargard Obyrn teleports lichguard 6" further forward.

For an "all in" list you probably want 2 Monoliths/Night Scythes being GI within 12", drop out 2 rapid fire units and Deepstrike Flayed ones and Deathmarks in along side. Some games you will overwhelm people, most games you will be punished for jumping in close and not having the short range killing power to make it worth it.

Where does it say they follow the rules for deepthstrike? Other deepstriking units, such as terminators deploy at the end of a movement phase hence they can't move. Deployment from a nightsycthe happens at the beginning of a movement phase (before the nightsycthe moves) and the eternity gate rule doesn't state you can't move and/or charge following deployment.

JayGee wrote:

Moosatronic Warrior wrote:
Units coming out of Monoliths/Night Scythes suffer the penalties of units arriving from reserve, which prevents them from moving the turn they show up. So you GI the Night Scythe 12" away, deploy the infantry 3" forward, then need a 9" charge.

The only way to do better is to GI a Ghost Ark containing Zhandrek within 12", Z diembarks and moves/advances 8 + D6" then Vargard Obyrn teleports lichguard 6" further forward.

For an "all in" list you probably want 2 Monoliths/Night Scythes being GI within 12", drop out 2 rapid fire units and Deepstrike Flayed ones and Deathmarks in along side. Some games you will overwhelm people, most games you will be punished for jumping in close and not having the short range killing power to make it worth it.

Where does it say they follow the rules for deepthstrike? Other deepstriking units, such as terminators deploy at the end of a movement phase hence they can't move. Deployment from a nightsycthe happens at the beginning of a movement phase (before the nightsycthe moves) and the eternity gate rule doesn't state you can't move and/or charge following deployment.

It doesn't follow the rules for deep-striking. You are bringing reinforcements on, so you follow the reinforcement rule. It explicitly states that reinforcements can come in at any time in the movement phase, and are not allowed to move any further that phase, but can shoot and charge as normal.

 Klowny wrote:

JayGee wrote:

Moosatronic Warrior wrote:
Units coming out of Monoliths/Night Scythes suffer the penalties of units arriving from reserve, which prevents them from moving the turn they show up. So you GI the Night Scythe 12" away, deploy the infantry 3" forward, then need a 9" charge.

The only way to do better is to GI a Ghost Ark containing Zhandrek within 12", Z diembarks and moves/advances 8 + D6" then Vargard Obyrn teleports lichguard 6" further forward.

For an "all in" list you probably want 2 Monoliths/Night Scythes being GI within 12", drop out 2 rapid fire units and Deepstrike Flayed ones and Deathmarks in along side. Some games you will overwhelm people, most games you will be punished for jumping in close and not having the short range killing power to make it worth it.

Where does it say they follow the rules for deepthstrike? Other deepstriking units, such as terminators deploy at the end of a movement phase hence they can't move. Deployment from a nightsycthe happens at the beginning of a movement phase (before the nightsycthe moves) and the eternity gate rule doesn't state you can't move and/or charge following deployment.

It doesn't follow the rules for deep-striking. You are bringing reinforcements on, so you follow the reinforcement rule. It explicitly states that reinforcements can come in at any time in the movement phase, and are not allowed to move any further that phase, but can shoot and charge as normal.

And that's what iv been missing! Thank you

Not a problem! I get stuff confused/miss things all the time. New editions take time to get a hold of

not really. someone asked that question to gw staff and their answer is : "we dont know. now its possible but we will faq if needed" . so y but we will see with faqs".I finded this information some time ago on a gw facebook page