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Simple question. Would you rather see new Regiments introduced or showcased, updated Regiments of old, a "new Imperial Army" reforged by Guilliman to cope with this new Dark Imperium?

Currently there is no reason for regiment key words at all. There are only really two armies supported with characters right now only for them, Cadian's and slightly Catchatans. A plastic range needs to be made to support more regiments within the setting.

 NenkotaMoon wrote:
Currently there is no reason for regiment key words at all. There are only really two armies supported with characters right now only for them, Cadian's and slightly Catchatans. A plastic range needs to be made to support more regiments within the setting.

Remember that Regiments also apply to Scions and Auxilia stuff like Ratlings and Ogryn.

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As much as I'm pretty heavily invested in 3rd party miniatures that fill the void GW left behind, I certainly wouldn't complain about new plastic regiments or plastic versions of the older regiments. I still buy many of my characters from GW for a few reasons, so I'd be happy to see more plastic Guardsmen, especially characters.

I'd like to see some more vehicles, like older Guard tanks, and I wouldn't complain if GW took over some units from FW to turn into plastic.

I'm hoping the rules are good. I nominally play Mordian Iron Guard, but with the fate of the planet in question, it gives me some leeway to run them as various 'regiments' depending on the type of army I'm running.

I also want a Sentinel commander. Let me issue orders to Sentinels, like that formation we had in 7th.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 NenkotaMoon wrote:
Currently there is no reason for regiment key words at all. There are only really two armies supported with characters right now only for them, Cadian's and slightly Catchatans. A plastic range needs to be made to support more regiments within the setting.

Remember that Regiments also apply to Scions and Auxilia stuff like Ratlings and Ogryn.

All basically nothing for the most part keyword wise with only one character for Ogryns.

Speaking for myself, I want things to go one of two ways:
1) Existing Regiments get slowly converted into plastic. Not all at once, mind you, but a gradual thing. Whether it is as specialized units(Tanith and Tallarn themed models for Scout infantry, as an example) or a whole range I don't care, but the idea would be that it gets done after a range consolidation has happened to allow for space to be made. As that is being done, we also get new kit that won't necessarily require too much effort to rework for the other Regiments. Things like sentry guns, Sabre Gun Platforms, and the Rapier. Make it so that when the infantry boxes are done for the other Regiments they include an extra body somewhere that can work for the Sabre/Rapier(like how the Dark Eldar Wracks include parts for crew manning the Raider/Venom). Maybe put it in the Command Squad box, since that used to be a 5 model squad but is now 4 models and the Commander is a separate choice on the field.

2) A fluff shift. Guilliman reforms all the disparate regiments and has them equipped the same. A new Imperial Army is formed, to serve alongside the Primaris on Crusade. The equipment that was previously so varied for the regiments is now used by the Planetary Defense Forces or those regiments already on campaign at the time of the new Imperial Army's muster.

Are DKoK available in plastic?

 Ginjitzu wrote:
Are DKoK available in plastic?

Forge World resin I believe.

 NenkotaMoon wrote:

 Ginjitzu wrote:
Are DKoK available in plastic?

Forge World resin I believe.

Then that's what I want. An entire suite of plastic Death Korps. Battleline troops, elites, fast attack, heavy support, vehicles etc. All sculpted in the Death Korps aesthetic. All in multi-part plastic kits. I'd abandon the Unforgiven like a hot snot if I could get that.

 Kanluwen wrote:

2) A fluff shift. Guilliman reforms all the disparate regiments and has them equipped the same. A new Imperial Army is formed, to serve alongside the Primaris on Crusade. The equipment that was previously so varied for the regiments is now used by the Planetary Defense Forces or those regiments already on campaign at the time of the new Imperial Army's muster.

The last thing we need is having the bulk of the Imperium forces being seconded to Marines, again.

Might as well get rid of them then.

What I want and what GW (excluding FW) wants has never really been the same.

At its heart, the GW Imperial Guard is a very mechanized force, with all of their main support elements being vehicles (self-propelled artillery, tanks or aircraft). You have almost nothing between man-portable heavy weapons and actual division-level support (in a modern sense). If you play a purely GW army, you have to take tanks or heavy artillery if you want something heavier than a lascannon. I would like to see something more akin to the Forge World heavy mortar or quad launcher, i.e. non-vehicle field artillery.

I would like to see something else than the eternal Cadian regiments. Everything they release now is just about Cadians, with the only reason Catachans actually having something is because they still produce those models. If the molds broke, they would be gone. Give us actual rules for different regiments, or doctrines, or whatever. As it stands right now, you're just ruining it for yourself by not taking Cadian or Catachan keywords. But I would also wish that they gave us a some form of "Build-your-regiment"-rules instead of just giving some half-arsed ones for the ones still in production, with some of them maybe having preset bonuses.

I would not want Death Korps or any FW infantry is plastic because I don't trust GW to not ruin the proportions.

Lorewise, I would want the Guard to actually do something by themselves without necessarily being seconded to Marines. Have some new, human-led campaigns like the Macharian Crusade with the Guard as the stars and any Marines just being support.

 Bobthehero wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

2) A fluff shift. Guilliman reforms all the disparate regiments and has them equipped the same. A new Imperial Army is formed, to serve alongside the Primaris on Crusade. The equipment that was previously so varied for the regiments is now used by the Planetary Defense Forces or those regiments already on campaign at the time of the new Imperial Army's muster.

The last thing we need is having the bulk of the Imperium forces being seconded to Marines, again.

Well now they are thirds. Primares > Marines > AM

Well I'd say Praetorians but Anvil is doing not-Praetorians this year.

You know the whole issue around Copyrighting forcing GW to come up with alternative names for everything these days? How would that effect the classic regiments? You couldn't copyright Valhalla for example right?

 Future War Cultist wrote:
You know the whole issue around Copyrighting forcing GW to come up with alternative names for everything these days? How would that effect the classic regiments? You couldn't copyright Valhalla for example right?

You could probably trademark the full regimental name (Valhallan Ice Warriors, Armageddon Steel Legion, Praetorian Non-existing Guard..). But in all honesty, they'll likely just make new Cadian sculpts or a new regiment entirely.

 Aenarian wrote:
You could probably trademark the full regimental name (Valhallan Ice Warriors, Armageddon Steel Legion, Praetorian Non-existing Guard..). But in all honesty, they'll likely just make new Cadian sculpts or a new regiment entirely.

A part of me thinks they should go back to the drawing board. Maybe it wouldn't be so bad. Who would want the old regiments? Old vets who've been in the game for years. New players aren't going to be as hung up on them. Forge World could step in to cover that.

If it was to me, I'd do three different regiments that correspond to different infantry types. I'd have one regiment who are in elaborate uniforms with long wooden stock weapons and anarchic armour that resembles something from the early 19th century who are going to be line infantry (i.e, the Vostroyians!), then one regiment that are lightly equipped and have a sort of the whole 20th century vibe (a combination of tallarns, catacahns, fen guard types) then one final regiment who are more futuristic and sci fi looking who could be drop troopers, mechanicised, anything like that. (think cadains, Elysians...that sort of thing). Three regiments with three kits each.

A variety of unit types form different known and unknown Regiments

Male and female models

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Get the current range to be passable, first, and then add new things. There's no reason to expand the army if the core sets (infantry box, heavy weapons team, etc.) are crap.

 Verviedi wrote:
Get the current range to be passable, first, and then add new things. There's no reason to expand the army if the core sets (infantry box, heavy weapons team, etc.) are crap.

Yes, absolutely. Whatever they do, this what I think the future IG infantry kit should look like:

- 10 models, with the parts to build a vox caster and 1 of each kind of special weapon.
- the option to arm them with either lasguns or shotguns.
- There should also be a demo charge arm.
- Full options for the sergeant; las, bolt and plasma pistol, bolt gun, chain sword, power sword and maybe a power fist?

This single kit would allow you to build conscript, infantry and vet squads.

Having said that, this is only under the current system. I'd take another look at the unit entries too.

 Future War Cultist wrote:

 Verviedi wrote:
Get the current range to be passable, first, and then add new things. There's no reason to expand the army if the core sets (infantry box, heavy weapons team, etc.) are crap.

Yes, absolutely. Whatever they do, this what I think the future IG infantry kit should look like:

- 10 models, with the parts to build a vox caster and 1 of each kind of special weapon.
- the option to arm them with either lasguns or shotguns.
- There should also be a demo charge arm.
- Full options for the sergeant; las, bolt and plasma pistol, bolt gun, chain sword, power sword and maybe a power fist?

This single kit would allow you to build conscript, infantry and vet squads.

Having said that, this is only under the current system. I'd take another look at the unit entries too.

No to Conscripts.

Whatever happens, these need to become their own kit that comes with 20 models and notably less armored models.

I don't really care about what they look like or what the kit includes, but I want it to include both power axes and power mauls. Other than that, the possiblity to form Veterans or other kinds of squads (e.g. Special Weapons) seems nice.

Would love a rag tag penal legion in plastic.

wound also love kasherkins in plastic too.

I'm not an Imperial Guard player and it's unlikely I could become one without a major shift from GW.

1) Ditch the boring/milquetoast Cadian aesthetic. Dump it.

2) Bring out two box squads, one box with lighter kit, and one box with great coats. Have a couple head options for each box (DKOK/Valhalla in one, Cadian/Catachan/etc. in another).

3) Bring out a quality Rough Riders plastic kit mounted on chem-horses or some slightly alienesque looking horses. See the FW DKOK for inspiration.

4) Bring back an Imperial Guard land speeder, with enough options to allow an IG force to run guardsmen+landspeeders+sentinels w/ no tanks as a fast and "okay" force.

Genuinely differentiate some of the classic IG regiments, allowing them to take different units in different slots - or restrict them from certain units, etc. I would suggest bringing back the famous captains and lieutenants form the good ole' days but that won't happen unless GW releases them all in a single plastic boxed set "Heroes of the Imperial Guard" or something. No one is going to pay $30-35+ for a single IG hero. Not gonna happen (one reason why they should seriously consider bringing back metals for genuine hero types - skip the gak resin and sell blisters for singular characters).

Would love to see a bring back of the older regiment stuff, I see Penal legion and Militia on ebay and they would look great with a modern ascetic.

Would be nice if some of our core stuff had more options. Like an alternate main battle tank (instead of new turrets for the existing one) or an alternate line trooper (close combat troopers, jump troopers, militia, etc.)

I've played IG for about 15 years, and I have a huge army of Praetorians, with some Catachan support.

I voted for a whole new army, and here's why: The current plastics are just not very good, and the aesthetics they support are not very interesting. I love my Praetorians (all the old metals actually), but the most clearly 40k IG models ever made were the Vostroyans, which really balanced that historical influence with the insanity of the 40th millennium. (the RT era stuff came close at time).

I would want a new range of models that have all of the following: areas of plain old uniform/cloth, religious iconography, high tech gizmos, and basic armor plating. With GW's current ability to cram bitz onto sprues, there's zero reason the basic box couldn't include one each of the specials, full combat weapons for the sarge, a vox, and some shotguns. I'd argue that you could easily include the missile launcher as well, but if you put a few kneeling legs, it doesn't matter which sprue it's on. The next sprue will be a new heavy weapon sprue, probably done as a full squad with all the options for both. The veteran/command box could include carapace, camo cloaks, banners, med kits, heavy flamers, and anything else you need to make up officers, command squads, vets, etc.

I agree that conscripts could, and should, be a separate box set, with simplified models and reduced armor.

Regimental rules in the codexes. Model wise...there are enough guard like models out there to build your own regiment. And this is what I miss, having your own regiment with its fluff, and how it is represented rule wise.

If there could only be one regiment, I'd chose vostroyians.

I voted old regiments being updated. New stuff is nice, but then you'd suffer the Centurion syndrome of new stuff sorta doing what the old stuff did but either better, worse, or only different in extremely niche cases (not one of which is good, since it either invalidates existing stuff, be completely useless, or just be so situational that no one takes it).

Plus there's a bazillion guard regiments that already have models. I know people who would kill for Vostroyans, Valhallans, Tallarns, Steel Legion, and non-bulgy Catachans, let alone Praetorians, Mordians, Tanith First and Only, Salvar Chem Dogs, Attlans etc. Or maybe even fabled plastic Kriegs (Imagine the ridiculous dosh GW would rake in if they introduced Dkok at the price point of cadians).