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Hey, Dakka!

I've been bit by the renegades bug, and have been mulling over choices for "Renegade Cultist" Models.

I've narrowed it down to the following, and would love your feedback and possibly other notions for what would work well.

1.) Taking a second mortgage and doing all renegade conversion kits from FW
2.) Lots and lots of 5 man Cultist boxes
3.) Skeleton warriors! Sorcerers and psykers keeping them alive and work for the dark gods.

Then option 4, which is my personal favorite currently, which is using Poxwalkers as cultists. They're 25mm, easily humanoid, have a mix of weapons, etc.

What do you think?

Pox walkers are pretty good for that

You could also convert up Gene stealer cults
they would make fantastic renegades.

1.) is probably what I would have done, but it will be silly expensive with £16 points for the basic torsos and £18 for a Cadian squad.
2.) Everything will look much the same, so I would not do it because I don't really like having that few different models.
3.) Sounds really cool, and if you actually play the army around it, why not. Very creative!
4.) If you play Nurgle, why not?



But I think you could also go with an option 5.) mix them. Have a few Forge World cultists, some GW cultists and poxwalkers and skeletons for your psykers. The FW cultists and GW cultists look quite alike so shouldn't be a problem, and the rest might fit a quite chaotic force, although maybe not if you want a specific theme.

1.) This is mustache twirling silly and you should only do it if you're either on your deathbed with no heirs or if you just won a lottery with no less than 7 0's behind the last number. Or you're one of those silly people with enough money to drop the entire country's GDP by missing 1 day of work.

2.) That one is shooting yourself in the foot, but probably the closest you can get for "the feel"

3.) This one's a stretch. You'd have better results if you mix the skellies with cadian or catachan bits.

4.) The only issue here is that poxwalkers rarely have guns and most things 40k have guns, so unless you're actually using them as poxwalkers, you might have to do some conversions here.

I would recommend option 5: Look towards Codex: Eye of Terror for conversion ideas. A good one is to mix Catachan and Chaos Marauder bitz, as the Catachans are already going bare-armed and bare-chested, so the swap would be easy. Chaos Marauders also have the "wild mane" like hair that would be good for renegade troops. Alternatively, Empire Flagallents also make good "crazy" bits since they're crazy people to begin with. Bonus points in that both mix well with cadians too. Guns are still an issue, but there's a decent amount of extras on the IG frames and the arms are easier to convert to just pistol gripping the guns (as oppose to the poxwalkers who have the tentacle thingy going on).

To me, since I won't be caring about giving the cultists any of their special weapons like stubbers, etc, it isn't terribly important each model is armed with a gun. If every model is identical, they all have "autoguns", then they simple all are what they are. I'm picking up what you guys are putting down, mixing wise.

Poxwalkers are also my base idea purely because of how freaking cheap they are right now. I can get 180 pox walkers for $1 a model, where cultists and flagellants are $3 ish a model.


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Also, I'll note, my go-to option would be 180 Neophyte Hybrids, but I haven't stumbled into $700 for just troops recently.

I got my cultists off ebay for little over $1 per model. Think I got about 30, hard to tell after moving and only finding 26 so far. I can't justify $2 per snap fit cultist model.

Yeah. It can't be pricey. As I mentioned, a poxwalker is $1/Model, but a Genestealer Neophyte is $3/model and is absolutely perfect.

Hell, even Genestealer Primus/Magos make perfect Enforcers and Malefic lords.

 Cephalobeard wrote:
Yeah. It can't be pricey. As I mentioned, a poxwalker is $1/Model, but a Genestealer Neophyte is $3/model and is absolutely perfect.

Hell, even Genestealer Primus/Magos make perfect Enforcers and Malefic lords.

Ether keep the GS heads or swap em mixed full or normal heads and the skittari helmets (those bits are cheap as its a duel option)

they look really good.

I'd use the heads that are still really humanoid, and then sub in Tempestus Scion heads for the others, imo.

AoS Bloodreavers are pretty common on the ebay.

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2380057.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.XBloodreavers.TRS0&_nkw=Bloodreavers&_sacat=0

Oh right chaos rat men and beast men works pretty well to if you dont mind converting fantasy stuff.

Bloodreavers are on 32mm bases though, no?

Then comes the issue of making them smaller, and converting the arms with guns. Not immediately necessary, as you can keep them like Poxwalkers and just say they are what you want.

or just use them as tanzgors... 2pts more but better than cultists s4 t4, 5++

Haha. Same conundrum, I have plenty of Tzaangor but once again, 32mm and much larger.

 Latro_ wrote:
AoS Bloodreavers are pretty common on the ebay.

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2380057.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.XBloodreavers.TRS0&_nkw=Bloodreavers&_sacat=0

Holy hell those guys are cheap! I wouldn't mind using them as Cultists or Rabble and sticking pistols on their hips. The weapons could be their improvised close combat weapons and honestly it wouldn't be too much trouble if I wanted them holding the pistols instead. The main problem is the base size and model size. They are huuuge and would overflow from the cultist bases. It would make lining them up on the battlefield a nightmare.

Genestealer Neophytes look great as chaos cultists if you're going for a more uniform look. I run mine as Alpha Legion cultists with head swaps (Viciky Mini's gasmask heads) with the GS icons clipped off. They look great. Only issue is I don't like to use the clawed hands arms so in order to give each of them an autogun you have to do a bit of minor conversion work for one or two models. If you didn't mind the mutations it'd be much easier. You'd need some head swaps though if you didn't want to use mutated GS heads as there aren't enough regular humie heads to fill out a squad.

I've also got the guy with the greatcoat (one of the GS cultist HQ characters) with his double arm clipped off and replaced with a normal looking arm. Looks fine as a simple conversion, and will make a great renegade commander or even a squad champion. I got the hunched over banner bearer too that I'm thinking of turning into a Malefic psyker guy.

They're a good kit for making distinctive cultists easily, and without the copy-paste of the DV cultist models. Only issue is turning them into heavy weapons teams. I'm thinking if I do this I'll have to mount the weapons on rubble and bits of broken wall so they're positioned at standing height as there's no kneeling model available.

The cool thing with cultists is you can mix and match any kits together to make cool cultists. I'd only use skelly bits if you mix them with catachan, cadian or some other infantry bits. Throw skulls on them, maybe an arm or two here and there. Poxwalkers are ok but without guns you might have to do some work making them look good. Though it's easy to throw pistol pouches them and give them pistol/weapon load outs.

There are loads of companies out there that produce great looking heads you can use as straight up head-swaps too that'll add some colour to your units.

Yeah. It's amazing how much GSC units fit perfectly.

Magus make perfect Malefic Lords.

Primus make perfect Enforcers/Commanders.

It's just trudging along through the immense price that you need to handle.

I use skaven for my cultist hoards. Clanrats are exceedingly cheap on ebay sites, for about 50c each, and Stormvermin are a very good kit for pretty cheap.

That's certainly a creative option!

Completely off topic but what is that on the bases?

Where did you get your pistols from for the clanrats? I've been using Plague Monks with cadian lasguns, but really struggled to find appropriate pistols at appropriate prices to make melee variants.

EDIT: Looks like DE splinter pistols, probably from the Wyches kit. Not so easy to get hold of en masse. (they are cheap after all).

Completely off topic but what is that on the bases?

Blood.
For the Blood God.

And yeah, they're splinter pistols (and some assorted other elf/eldar pistol type things, like converted dark elf crossbow pistols). There's also quite a lot of elf melee arms as well throughout.
Took a while to track down those bits, but that goes a bit above and beyond if you're just looking for cheap bodies.

For human sized conversion, I can't suggest stormvermin enough.

Also it doesn't hurt to throw in a few Orks or Grots, or even Chaos Beastmen.