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Codex Pre-order August 5th

Voldus Available outside Triumvirate.

Grey Knight Grandmasters can be taken inside Dreadknights - HQ Dreadknights (probably)

Also that super exclusive SM Chaplain is on our strategem cards for some reason. Maybe we have access to Chaplains?

http://imgur.com/a/IlAqd







Fan Video more relevant than ever.

[MOD EDIT - Quite NSFW in the language department - Alpharius]

Con... vert...

I thought 40k models could only be made out of the box?

Could be a positive sign for those who like to use a little creativity

That fan ad was awesome.
So they allow rules for something without a model? So this "no kit no rules" isnt really as monolithic has it appears, no?

urghh more Dreadknights :(

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
Con... vert...

I thought 40k models could only be made out of the box?

Could be a positive sign for those who like to use a little creativity

Yeah, this is what we needed as a positive sign on creativity not the fact they kept showing off a converted Death Guard army...

Dreadknight would be a good candidate for the stormtalon->stormhawk treatment. Surely they could make a little dreadnought sarcophagus dealie to go on the front instead of the baby carrier? Put a couple of new arm weapons on the sprue too. Stick £10 on the price. Sell loads of dreadknights. Call me, GW

Both look to be priced at $40. I assume this means we'll see Death Guard around August 19th.

Thanks Quickjager!

I'm curious if they'll incorporate primaris into GK as one of Cawl's bastard side projects. I hope not just like I hope that GK don't suddenly sprout a second wound.

 Galas wrote:
That fan ad was awesome.
So they allow rules for something without a model? So this "no kit no rules" isnt really as monolithic has it appears, no?

I don't think the "no kit no rules" thing was applied consistently. AFAIK, Razorbacks don't get supplied with twin assault cannons either, but that didn't change their datasheet.

 Elmir wrote:

 Galas wrote:
That fan ad was awesome.
So they allow rules for something without a model? So this "no kit no rules" isnt really as monolithic has it appears, no?

I don't think the "no kit no rules" thing was applied consistently. AFAIK, Razorbacks don't get supplied with twin assault cannons either, but that didn't change their datasheet.

Careful... logic might get you attacked by the GW Super Fans.

Does anybody remember when 5th edition was the "no frills" edition but it only lasted for the first 2 or 3 codexes before going completely off the rails? I'm still thinking 8th is going to do that. The "no kit no rules" concept being unevenly applied is signaling to me that GW rules desingers are having issues with keeping themselves in a cohesive design space. We might look back at the indexes and see it as the pinnacle of 8th edition. I hope not but I've got no evidence that I should trust GW lol.

 BrotherGecko wrote:
Does anybody remember when 5th edition was the "no frills" edition but it only lasted for the first 2 or 3 codexes before going completely off the rails? I'm still thinking 8th is going to do that. The "no kit no rules" concept being unevenly applied is signaling to me that GW rules desingers are having issues with keeping themselves in a cohesive design space. We might look back at the indexes and see it as the pinnacle of 8th edition. I hope not but I've got no evidence that I should trust GW lol.

IIRC 4th edition (at least in terms of the options presented in the codex books) was the no frills blandhammer edition that was complained about for years into 5th.

 Elmir wrote:

 Galas wrote:
That fan ad was awesome.
So they allow rules for something without a model? So this "no kit no rules" isnt really as monolithic has it appears, no?

I don't think the "no kit no rules" thing was applied consistently. AFAIK, Razorbacks don't get supplied with twin assault cannons either, but that didn't change their datasheet.

As ever, Space Marines will be allowed to get away with it, no one else will.

Traditionally Eldar are the ones to bust the new edition. So until they get their codex I will he quietly hopeful that the missteps will be successfully ironed out.

 Imateria wrote:

As ever, Space Marines will be allowed to get away with it, no one else will.

Incredibly weird statement, since SMs are the first ones to suffer from it (Dreadnoughts at least and all the bikes)... But they did forget to scrap the twin assault cannons for some reason.

In that picture of the converted Dreadknight, does anyone else notice that it uses Voldus's torso and head?

If Voldus can take a Dreadknight upgrade that would be weird.

I asked in an announcement post for the primaris marines about primaris grey knights, I got an official reply basically saying Grey knights are all psykers and they haven't released whether primaris marines can be or not yet, so with the release of the primaris librarian could certain primaris squads be available to the Grey knights with added psychic abilities?

 cuda1179 wrote:
In that picture of the converted Dreadknight, does anyone else notice that it uses Voldus's torso and head?

If Voldus can take a Dreadknight upgrade that would be weird.

maybe it's just an add on any GK captain can take. Dreadknight dragio! THE MEME IS REAL!

I kind of have to wonder if the Grandmaster Dreadknight will have some different weapon options. It would at least have more attacks than a normal Dreadknight, right? Perhaps a Dreadknight Stormshield?

I wonder what other new toys the GK will be given. As it is they are a rather option poor army. No Contemptors, No LandSpeeders, no bikes, no scouts, no Predators.

A week ago I passed on some Dreadknights that were on discount because no one wanted them.

I REGRET ALL OF IT.


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Also quick question.

Since they advertised that you have to convert one up, how much of a "conversion" would you guys consider to be "enough" for a Grand Master Dreadknight, considering he's already in Terminator armor and the "Grand Master" model just has a fancy tabard?

 MechaEmperor7000 wrote:


Since they advertised that you have to convert one up, how much of a "conversion" would you guys consider to be "enough" for a Grand Master Dreadknight, considering he's already in Terminator armor and the "Grand Master" model just has a fancy tabard?

Probably just put the Dreadknight fancier colours or more decoration and call it a day. The actual Grey Knight on it is the least important part of the Dreadknight.

yeah just give it lots of gold trim, maybe a unique head, paint up the pilot to look spiffy etc

 Elmir wrote:

 Galas wrote:
That fan ad was awesome.
So they allow rules for something without a model? So this "no kit no rules" isnt really as monolithic has it appears, no?

I don't think the "no kit no rules" thing was applied consistently. AFAIK, Razorbacks don't get supplied with twin assault cannons either, but that didn't change their datasheet.

Speaking of no kits... are GK or CSM actually getting any kits with these books and cards? The side by side books contrast forebodingly with the Piles o' Primaris.

How are GK's doing under the Index army list>?

Voss wrote:

 Elmir wrote:

 Galas wrote:
That fan ad was awesome.
So they allow rules for something without a model? So this "no kit no rules" isnt really as monolithic has it appears, no?

I don't think the "no kit no rules" thing was applied consistently. AFAIK, Razorbacks don't get supplied with twin assault cannons either, but that didn't change their datasheet.

Speaking of no kits... are GK or CSM actually getting any kits with these books and cards? The side by side books contrast forebodingly with the Piles o' Primaris.

proably not no. although one can hope we get a new model or two, nothing major a CSM havoc box and I dunno, maybe a plastic tech marine?

 BrotherGecko wrote:
Traditionally Eldar are the ones to bust the new edition. So until they get their codex I will he quietly hopeful that the missteps will be successfully ironed out.

Traditionally? As in, 6th edition? Before 6th and the advent of the new Wave Serpent and Allies, Eldar were generally Tier 2. I played them since second Edition and the only edition they ever busted was 6th.

 MechaEmperor7000 wrote:
A week ago I passed on some Dreadknights that were on discount because no one wanted them.

I REGRET ALL OF IT.


Automatically Appended Next Post:
Also quick question.

Since they advertised that you have to convert one up, how much of a "conversion" would you guys consider to be "enough" for a Grand Master Dreadknight, considering he's already in Terminator armor and the "Grand Master" model just has a fancy tabard?

https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/685146.page

Here is my conversion from a couple years ago. Sorry for quality, it was a painting in progress. I wouldn't be surprised to see three things: GM Dreadknights able to take two of the same heavy weapons, giant storm shield option, and funky wargear like all the grenades, teleport homer, deepstrike ability, etc. Add into that an aura effect for other troops (or other Dreadknights) and two more attacks and you will have a monster HQ

I think the GM Dreadknight is just going to be a buffed version of a dreadknight. The conversion from the picture we have got so far is a Voldus head and an extra heraldric shoulder shield.

I wouldnt get my hopes up too much, though its tempting to pick up another one to bling up a bit to go with my two sitting in their case from the good ol Draigo/Centurion days.

 MechaEmperor7000 wrote:

Since they advertised that you have to convert one up, how much of a "conversion" would you guys consider to be "enough" for a Grand Master Dreadknight, considering he's already in Terminator armor and the "Grand Master" model just has a fancy tabard?

I imagine it can be done by something as simple as adding the paladin mini banners to the DK. Maybe even the whole banner on his back?

Also, if you cut the top off a nemesis warding staff and remove the skull on the inside, you would have a perfect iron halo bit that fits right above the carrier. I think that's what I'll do, although I already have heavily converted dreadknights standing at the ready:



If they do get an insane Storm shield option, I've already got that covered...