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2017/08/12 22:59:44
Subject: Khârn's "The Betrayer" Rule
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Norn Queen
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I want to start by saying that this is one of those super lucky times when we can say without any sort of ambiguity that this is NOT the intent of the rule in question.
"The Betrayer: You cannot re-roll or modify hit rolls of 1 made for Khârn the Betrayer in the Fight phase. Instead, those attacks automatically hit a friendly unit within 1". Randomly determine which unit is hit if there is more than one. If there are no friendly units within 1" of Khârn, the hits are discarded."
Notice the problem? It hits a Friendly Unit within 1". Khârn himself is a friendly unit within 1" as per the rules for Auras in the Rulebook. Rules as Written, rolls of 1 can never be discarded and instead cause Khârn to punch himself.
Not posted in YMDC because this isn't so much a rules question as a "look at GW being silly again" thread.
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This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2017/08/12 23:00:59
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2017/08/12 23:09:59
Subject: Khârn's "The Betrayer" Rule
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Ancient Chaos Terminator
Surfing the Tervigon Wave...on a baby.
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Ah, so rather than posting it in the relevant forum to be clarified and discussed (as it's pretty obvious what they intended) you decided to post here as yet another part of your Anti-8th Edition Crusade where you gripe about everything and anything.
Gotcha!
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2017/08/12 23:27:18
Subject: Khârn's "The Betrayer" Rule
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Seems kinda YMDC-y to me.
Just remember the rules of the subforum - and of the site - yes?
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2017/08/12 23:28:01
Subject: Khârn's "The Betrayer" Rule
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Norn Queen
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 DarkStarSabre wrote:Ah, so rather than posting it in the relevant forum to be clarified and discussed (as it's pretty obvious what they intended) you decided to post here as yet another part of your Anti-8th Edition Crusade where you gripe about everything and anything. Gotcha!
Soothe your mammeries. I didn't post it in YMDC because it wasn't a rules question. I freaking love 8th edition, warts and all. But since it's moved here, so be it.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2017/08/12 23:28:31
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2017/08/13 12:50:55
Subject: Khârn's "The Betrayer" Rule
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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This isn't an aura. And if they wanted it to effect himself they would not have said "if there are no friendly units within 1" ignore" they would have said "if there are no friendly units within 1 he hits himself".
This isn't an issue unless someone wants to try and make it one as far as I can see.
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2017/08/13 16:19:19
Subject: Khârn's "The Betrayer" Rule
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain
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Agree it's not an Aura.
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 Stormonu wrote:For me, the joy is in putting some good-looking models on the board and playing out a fantasy battle - not arguing over the poorly-made rules of some 3rd party who neither has any power over my play nor will be visiting me (and my opponent) to ensure we are "playing by the rules"
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2017/08/13 21:15:03
Subject: Khârn's "The Betrayer" Rule
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Dakka Veteran
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It must be an ability to be a Aura. This is an attack not an ability. So you simply follow the written rules for it, and not the Aura rules.
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