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I have a question regarding the Legion Praevian Consul and the cortex controller that I would like to clarify if someone would like to help me. Does Master of Cybernetica and the cortex controller stack, leading to one non FOC squad with the praevian and a second Heavy support automata/thallax squad? I just wasn't sure if the 0-1 restriction of the cortex controller counted the Consul's own rule/unit (seems like it doesn't since it is a non FOC option while the other is HS) and if the legion astartes rules gets conferred to the heavy support option. If the L:A rule doesn't get applied then does it count as a legion choice when making a dark compliance army (page 131 says the HS option comes from the Taghmata list and not Legion list), ie I need another militia list unit to balance the HS option? Sorry for the questions I just am a bit confused on how the stack of rules resolves as I've been thinking of either an Alpha Legion or Imperial Fists dark compliance army and the Alpha Legion one leaves me confused as I go through my Redbook!
   
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I interpret it as master of cybernetica creates a unit of praevian + automata. Then you can also take 1 other unit of automata in heavy support if you so desire due to cortex controller. Only the automata attached to the praevian get the legion rules. Not sure what you mean by dark compliance army based on the latest red books. The HS automata are allowed but do not benefit from Legion traits.

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I would say it counts a a legion unit for a Dark Compliance force, since it was chosen using rules from a legion unit. Also I think that the updated legion list has the automata rules in it as optional heavy Support.


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Out of curiosity what is your list? I'm building an Army of Dark Compliance as well and am interested.

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 Miindhaze wrote:
I interpret it as master of cybernetica creates a unit of praevian + automata. Then you can also take 1 other unit of automata in heavy support if you so desire due to cortex controller. Only the automata attached to the praevian get the legion rules. Not sure what you mean by dark compliance army based on the latest red books. The HS automata are allowed but do not benefit from Legion traits.


Thanks for the response! I was thinking it would work that way but I was not sure. The army of dark compliance force is the combined legion/militia and warp cults army, and one of the restrictions is that you can not have more units from the Legion Astartes list than the number of units from the militia/cults list. However in the Legiones Astartes Age of Darkness Army List red book the 0-1 HS choice under the cortex controller (page 131) is stated as being from the Mechanicum Taghmata army list. Do they just mean that is where you get the rules and the HS slot counts as from the Legion Astartes list, or, since the automata do not get the LA rules like the Praevian unit, they do not count towards the legion astartes limit in an Army of Dark Compliance?

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"Optional Heavy Support: For each cortex controller present in a Space Marine detachment, 0-1 of the following units from the Mechanicum Taghmata army list are availble as Heavy Support options: Thallax Cohort*, Castellax Battle-automata Maniple, Vorax Battle-automata maniple. *If purchased a Triaros as a Dedicated Transport, this may not transport Space Marine models of any kind.
   
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Yeah I would interpret the part "... are available as Heavy Support options..." to mean "... are available as Heavy Support options - in a Legiones Astartes army-"

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agurus1 wrote:
Yeah I would interpret the part "... are available as Heavy Support options..." to mean "... are available as Heavy Support options - in a Legiones Astartes army-"


Yeah that would make sense! For the army not being sure on the exact legion leads to just a rough plans. I may just take an allied detachment because looking at things using the Praevian, non FOC and HS vorax automata sets me back behind 3 militia units before I break even as the praevian can not be the compulsory HQ choice. Just seems like I'm losing alot of other legion support for something that could be done as a detachment, though Praevians can't be from an allied detachment so I guess I will mull over my options the next couple days. Rule of cool-wise I would like to keep the Praevian and his head-hunting packs haha.
   
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Hmm well if you are only planning on playing friendly games can just ask your buddies to waive the Support Officer rule for the praevian.


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And 3 milita squads are only 180 points for 3 scoring units and 60 bodies which is a pretty good investment methinks and catches you up with your unit balance

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agurus1 wrote:
Hmm well if you are only planning on playing friendly games can just ask your buddies to waive the Support Officer rule for the praevian.


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And 3 milita squads are only 180 points for 3 scoring units and 60 bodies which is a pretty good investment methinks and catches you up with your unit balance


Very true, I probably will ask just to house rules it, I mean would my legate commander really object to taking commands from a "support officer" Praevian surrounded by vorax automata?

   
 
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