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How do? Did a search, couldn't find an existent thread.

So I caught season one of this show. And to be honest, I was left far from impressed. The acting was awful, and the characters less than compelling. Indeed, I spent most of it wishing and hoping Junkie O'Liability would be horribly murderified by something or someone.

Worst of all? The show purported to be the one to show us just how civilisation fell in the face of the Undead menace. Then promptly didn't. At all. We saw the army pull up outside the protagonist's abode at the end of one episode. Then the next one picked up with the city wrecked, and their street being one of a group of 'safe zones'...From there, we were pretty much in 'Rick wakes up from his coma' territory. Just with completely forgettable if not outright loathesome characters.

But.....I'm an optimist. Especially where horror or sci-fi shows are involved. I've often found those with the ropiest of starts soon blossom into absolutely cracking tv (TNG, DS9, SG-1, Babylon 5). Granted said shows typically showed some ray of light in amongst their dross, but my stance remains.

Has anyone watched season 2? And if so, given my points above, is this worth me persevering with? See I've nearly polished off SG-1 again so will be in need of new entertainment.

In terms of general standards, I remain an avid and enthusiastic fan of The Walking Dead, if that helps?

   
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It's a cast of horrible people who leave a path of destruction in their wake. They keep finding pockets of survivors, some good, some not, and then causing their downfall. I never finished season two.

 
   
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lol... i watch the show and like it.
you're right though AduroT, if these guys show up you better move along.

the first season did show the initial outbreak, the cops responding, the looting and rioting while biters floated among the oblivious people.

the acting can be tough. i wanted nick the junkie dead for a good while too but hes transitioned into somewhat of an interesting character.

not every episode can be a winner but i still enjoy it.
   
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Have found it on Amazon Prime, so get to eaghv it for next to nothing.

So far, it's a wee bit better than the first season....but I'm still struggling to view the main cast as survivors.

   
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I gave up on it once [REDACTED] died in the first (or second?) episode this season.

But it was a slog to make it this far.

AduroT summed it up perfectly.

   
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I'm on the third or fourth episode, and none of the main characters have snuffed it?

   
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 AduroT wrote:
It's a cast of horrible people who leave a path of destruction in their wake. They keep finding pockets of survivors, some good, some not, and then causing their downfall. I never finished season two.

Season two's finale was actually REALLY good.

They explored something I didn't think they would(the treatment of Native Americans by white settlers and their descendants) in a fairly well-done way. It was interesting listening to the Talking Dead episodes dealing with that thread(which is actually where we pick up on September 10th), as they kind of wrestled with it in light of the whole NDAPL headlines.
   
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What does that have to do with zombies?

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 Frazzled wrote:
What does that have to do with zombies?

You know that "The Walking Dead" is more about the humans than the zombies, yeah?

In this particular instance though, we're dealing with a family of survivalist/secessionists who have created a whole kinda cult around their property and the Native Americans who tried for a fairly lengthy bit of time to reclaim some tribal relics/remains through legal means have now decided to bring back their warrior ways and take back what was theirs.
   
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It definitely does improve if you stick with it. Its mixed quality for sure in places but I enjoyed it overall.
Strand and Salazar are watchable as characters and theres some decent mini set piece stories.

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By 1-irt: Still as long as Hissy keeps showing up this is one of the most entertaining threads ever.

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 AduroT wrote:
It's a cast of horrible people who leave a path of destruction in their wake. They keep finding pockets of survivors, some good, some not, and then causing their downfall. I never finished season two.


Thats why I like it.

Hopefully we're seeing the origin story of future villains on the main TWD show.
   
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Up to episode 8, and it's definitely improved somewhat.

   
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Just finished season 3 of this.
Really quite enjoyed it. It is most definitely a big step up from S1/2. I think it might finally have found its niche.
Some good character development (Alicia, Daniel, Ophelia - hell even Nick got a lot better), interesting new ones (really liked Travis/Walker and Prestor John has real potential), a solid plot overall, good action scenes and a nice cliff hanger if they go into a season 4.

Anyone else been watching it?

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By 1-irt: Still as long as Hissy keeps showing up this is one of the most entertaining threads ever.

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yes but I've not yet caught up with the finale
   
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 Ratius wrote:
Just finished season 3 of this.
Really quite enjoyed it. It is most definitely a big step up from S1/2. I think it might finally have found its niche.
Some good character development (Alicia, Daniel, Ophelia - hell even Nick got a lot better), interesting new ones (really liked Travis/Walker and Prestor John has real potential), a solid plot overall, good action scenes and a nice cliff hanger if they go into a season 4.

Anyone else been watching it?

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I think The Nation was a wonderful addition. I'm bummed things didn't work out for them, but Michael Grayeyes made me want a Marvel movie featuring "Red Wolf" so much.

I loved Walker/Crazy Dog at the end of the finale.
Spoiler:
Walker--Nice shot.
Crazy Dog--I was trying for the heart/head combo.
*pause*
Walker--Must have been the wind...


Fingers crossed they're back for S4!
   
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IMDB has them listed as having four seasons so I guess you'll get your wish.


 
   
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One thing I noticed with this show is that I was entertained and smiling watching it, not like the Walking Dead home show, which is blah to me these days.

Fear the Walking Dead fees more like the comic oddly enough.

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This season has been really good actually. I've really enjoyed it. Far more than season one and the first half of season 2. It's already picked up for season 4 so that's a plus and I should get to finish the finale tonight. The wife and I have been a bit busy of late so we're behind

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I could certainly nitpick it, but overall I think this was this show's strongest season yet. It felt like the showrunners were simply telling their story and developing characters, rather than brazenly steering/manipulating the audience from beat to beat like TWD seemed to last season.

I'm not sure what's going on with TWD. Seemed like Scott Gimple could almost do no wrong when he first came on board, but lately the adaptation of the comics has been lacking even as they track the comics more than ever. I suspect that part of it is that the show is a victim of its own success and under heavy pressure to continue delivering high ratings. So it's fallen back on BIG! SHOCKING! STUFF! HAPPENING! CLIFFHANGERS! and other tried-and-true TV formulas. I'm almost waiting for the 'very special episode of The Walking Dead' promo set to soft piano music.

Lately, Negan being...not what he is in the books has also contributed, I think. And it's not just the actor, although I'm not sure about some of the choices he's made with the performance. It's funny, because his introduction at the end of the previous season seemed really solid. Since then, the performance and writing has spent too much time in silly cartoon character mode. And this whole arc doesn't work well if Negan doesn't work well. It also doesn't set up stuff that will happen later very well, IMO. *shrug*

I think TWD has a chance to improve after All Out War ends. Characters might have a chance to shine more again. We'll see. In the meantime, FTWD has grown into a fairly solid show.

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Looks like I need to read up on what happened during Season 3 here.

I gave up after episode one where Travis died.

The rest of the characters just kind of sucked, and I didn't feel the need to carry on with them...

   
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Damn, Maddison is ruthless a.f. The show will make an Alpha of her yet.
   
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 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
How do? Did a search, couldn't find an existent thread.

So I caught season one of this show. And to be honest, I was left far from impressed. The acting was awful, and the characters less than compelling. Indeed, I spent most of it wishing and hoping Junkie O'Liability would be horribly murderified by something or someone.

Worst of all? The show purported to be the one to show us just how civilisation fell in the face of the Undead menace. Then promptly didn't. At all. We saw the army pull up outside the protagonist's abode at the end of one episode. Then the next one picked up with the city wrecked, and their street being one of a group of 'safe zones'...From there, we were pretty much in 'Rick wakes up from his coma' territory. Just with completely forgettable if not outright loathesome characters.

But.....I'm an optimist. Especially where horror or sci-fi shows are involved. I've often found those with the ropiest of starts soon blossom into absolutely cracking tv (TNG, DS9, SG-1, Babylon 5). Granted said shows typically showed some ray of light in amongst their dross, but my stance remains.

Has anyone watched season 2? And if so, given my points above, is this worth me persevering with? See I've nearly polished off SG-1 again so will be in need of new entertainment.

In terms of general standards, I remain an avid and enthusiastic fan of The Walking Dead, if that helps?


ya that jump in the first season put me off the show as well. The show doesn't get any better, I'll watch any zombie show, and I've seen some bad ones and Fear is a really really bad one. I think Fear is the only show I've seen where I'm rooting for the zombies. Watch Z nation instead, its a show that knows it's bad and has quite a few humours moments.

 
   
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I don't understand how someone can criticise the characters in FtWD when the original series hasn't had a remotely plausible character arc for about 5 years now. Rick bounces between sheriff and farmer every season while he battles 2-dimensional cartoon villains every saturday morning. Morgan and Carol follow suit, bouncing between pacifist and terminator on a weekly basis. The original series seems to just lurch from one piss-weak cliffhanger to the next. The motivations of FtWD seem more plausible even though the story does seem to move along in jumps and starts.

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Yeah FTWD is a slow burner but its growing on me. I like how ruthless Maddison is becoming, she's mirroring Rick in Season 3 quite a bit.
   
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 MarsNZ wrote:
I don't understand how someone can criticise the characters in FtWD when the original series hasn't had a remotely plausible character arc for about 5 years now. Rick bounces between sheriff and farmer every season while he battles 2-dimensional cartoon villains every saturday morning. Morgan and Carol follow suit, bouncing between pacifist and terminator on a weekly basis. The original series seems to just lurch from one piss-weak cliffhanger to the next. The motivations of FtWD seem more plausible even though the story does seem to move along in jumps and starts.


For me, it's more the actors exude no charisma - and in the first season I couldn't buy any of them being survivors. Too soft. Too many flaws. Not decisive enough.

   
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What show are you talking about?

   
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Fear The Walking Dead.

Main characters started off as corpses-waiting-to-happen. Not a shred of charisma or survival instinct between them.

Walking Dead? We saw survival instinct. Yes it's gone down hill a bit in the later seasons but I'm too invested to quit now.

   
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 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
 MarsNZ wrote:
I don't understand how someone can criticise the characters in FtWD when the original series hasn't had a remotely plausible character arc for about 5 years now. Rick bounces between sheriff and farmer every season while he battles 2-dimensional cartoon villains every saturday morning. Morgan and Carol follow suit, bouncing between pacifist and terminator on a weekly basis. The original series seems to just lurch from one piss-weak cliffhanger to the next. The motivations of FtWD seem more plausible even though the story does seem to move along in jumps and starts.


For me, it's more the actors exude no charisma - and in the first season I couldn't buy any of them being survivors. Too soft. Too many flaws. Not decisive enough.


That's because in season 1 the non-survivors hadn't had time to...non-survive. It's a lot different in season 3, and I think they also got the cast pared down to the better characters now. Madison especially showed herself to be capable of making hard decisions. She's certainly a lot tougher than Rick during one of his trembling glassy-eyed bipolar moments. And thankfully she doesn't seem prone to Rick's silly bipolar nonsense in the first place.

As an aside, it always cracks me up when Dakkaites talk like that about characters in those kinds of situations. I think 99.4% of Dakka would be dead in minutes after a zombie apocalypse struck. Geeks would be the first course for the walkers.


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Hell, I'd run towards them I think. It'd be the easiest way to get it over and done with.
   
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 gorgon wrote:
 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
 MarsNZ wrote:
I don't understand how someone can criticise the characters in FtWD when the original series hasn't had a remotely plausible character arc for about 5 years now. Rick bounces between sheriff and farmer every season while he battles 2-dimensional cartoon villains every saturday morning. Morgan and Carol follow suit, bouncing between pacifist and terminator on a weekly basis. The original series seems to just lurch from one piss-weak cliffhanger to the next. The motivations of FtWD seem more plausible even though the story does seem to move along in jumps and starts.


For me, it's more the actors exude no charisma - and in the first season I couldn't buy any of them being survivors. Too soft. Too many flaws. Not decisive enough.


That's because in season 1 the non-survivors hadn't had time to...non-survive. It's a lot different in season 3, and I think they also got the cast pared down to the better characters now. Madison especially showed herself to be capable of making hard decisions. She's certainly a lot tougher than Rick during one of his trembling glassy-eyed bipolar moments. And thankfully she doesn't seem prone to Rick's silly bipolar nonsense in the first place.

As an aside, it always cracks me up when Dakkaites talk like that about characters in those kinds of situations. I think 99.4% of Dakka would be dead in minutes after a zombie apocalypse struck. Geeks would be the first course for the walkers.



I'd argue I see in them what I see in myself - Zombienosh, and in double quick time!

   
 
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