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2017/09/12 04:50:18
Subject: Collected rumors regarding a new 40K race Updated with FFJump's Information September 15th
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Greetings,
Let me be the first to say I am not a source of rumors, but perhaps a source of early observations other can later add to. I was reading in the Death Guard discussion the Lady Atia (spelling?) has suggested that there will be a new army for 40k next year and that the skull on the Xenos cover is a hint. Turns out there are other hints involving that same skull. The same cranium appears in the great alien gallery from I believe the 6th edition. It would seem that image really was a foreshadow of things to come. I have attached both images for your viewing pleasure.
I sincerely hope this is the case. I also hope others can share anything more concrete that fourth hand information and two images that may or may not be a coincidence.
Updated with sifted bits from other contributors.
MadCowCrazy wrote:I remember reading a long time ago that when Sisters of Battle are released there would be a campaign box of Sisters vs unknown alien race.
Rumour said something along the line of it being Sisters vs a faction that is currently not in the game.
This rumour was before the GSC were released so I was hoping there would be a Sisters vs GSC box but nope.
If GW released a new faction before making plastic Sisters I would feel very disappointed.
Brother SRM wrote:My only contribution to this is from the GW preview event at NOVA. When someone in the crowd asked the three Warhammer Community folks hosting what they'd like to see next, one joked plastic Sisters, Adam Troke said he'd like to see Inquisitor in 28mm scale, and the third, with a smirk, said a new race for 40k. Adam and the other guy feigned shock when he said that.
FFJump wrote:Heya, first time poster, long time lurker. I typically collect screenshots of any and all rumors I deem credible, or at least remember them so I can piece them together later. In terms of xenos, I looked back and found some things Atia, Hastings, and others have said from what I remember, and seems like they fit in this thread of collected rumors about a new race, since there seems to be few actual rumors lol. First, Atia had said a year ago that Exodites may be coming in two years, which would be next year.
Same thread she said there could be multiple races coming, if you notice, we actually did get a few of these.
I notice some people speaking about Rak'Gol, well, there has been a little bit of chatter from that too. Note that this one is just me asking someone on War of Sigmar lol.
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2017/09/12 05:02:10
Subject: Collected rumors regarding a new 40K race
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Dakka Veteran
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I hope we do get a new Xenos race. I also hope it won't be a human re-skin (2 legs, 2 arms, body and a head), and 4 eyes with bug like tusks make me hopeful
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2017/09/12 05:35:03
Subject: Collected rumors regarding a new 40K race
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Terrifying Doombull
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Hrm. Next time, a more appropriate thread title would be nice. 'Searching for rumours on new aliens' or something like that. A reuse of one (of twenty something) small pieces of alien art from two editions ago isn't exactly compelling.
Especially when it shares a page with ambulls, zoats and hrud.
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2017/09/12 05:40:00
Subject: Collected rumors regarding a new 40K race
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Enigmatic Chaos Sorcerer
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Is that skull in the big box o skulls basing kit?
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BlaxicanX wrote:A young business man named Tom Kirby, who was a pupil of mine until he turned greedy, helped the capitalists hunt down and destroy the wargamers. He betrayed and murdered Games Workshop.
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2017/09/12 06:25:15
Subject: Collected rumors regarding a new 40K race
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Sword-Bearing Inquisitorial Crusader
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Voss wrote:Hrm. Next time, a more appropriate thread title would be nice. 'Searching for rumours on new aliens' or something like that. A reuse of one (of twenty something) small pieces of alien art from two editions ago isn't exactly compelling.
Especially when it shares a page with ambulls, zoats and hrud.
No, I think there's some merit to this idea.
The skull on Xenos 1 is definitely important, as it matches none if the races represented within the book (correct me if I'm wrong, but fairly positive here.) Yet they used this anyways.
Why? It's deliberate misrepresentation. An eldar helm or necron symbol would have worked fine.
But instead they use this skull. Add to this that the lead developer, Pete Foley, specifically stated he'd like to work on a new faction for 40k, Lady Atia's rumor and things start to make sense.
That said, I hope its the Rak'gol or whatever they're called. Super cool race.
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2017/09/12 06:38:34
Subject: Collected rumors regarding a new 40K race
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Major
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Whatever it is, I hope it has a power armour save equivalent as standard
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2017/09/12 06:46:13
Subject: Collected rumors regarding a new 40K race
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Legendary Master of the Chapter
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A new 40k faction would be neat, but I'm still holding out for Grand Cathay...
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2017/09/12 07:01:54
Subject: Collected rumors regarding a new 40K race
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I am strongly inclined to believe a new 40k race is coming. Putting a skull that has nothing to do with an established race right in the centre of a major publication is a pretty massive hint. The quote from this month's white dwarf that accompanies the xenos art is 'perhaps some will emerge more fully one day'.
GW staff have repeatedly said that they love to drop these kinds of hints.
Then you have Pete, pretty senior management at GW, Foley's 'wishlist'.
On top of that Lady Atia is pretty reliable.
It has been 15 years since a new faction last appeared.
40k is due something completely new.
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2017/09/12 07:11:41
Subject: Collected rumors regarding a new 40K race
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Bonkers Buggy Driver with Rockets
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Maybe it's just another allied species of the Tau?
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2017/09/12 07:14:39
Subject: Collected rumors regarding a new 40K race
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Missionary On A Mission
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I remember reading a long time ago that when Sisters of Battle are released there would be a campaign box of Sisters vs unknown alien race.
Rumour said something along the line of it being Sisters vs a faction that is currently not in the game.
This rumour was before the GSC were released so I was hoping there would be a Sisters vs GSC box but nope.
If GW released a new faction before making plastic Sisters I would feel very disappointed.
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2017/09/12 07:16:01
Subject: Collected rumors regarding a new 40K race
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Neronoxx wrote:
The skull on Xenos 1 is definitely important, as it matches none if the races represented within the book (correct me if I'm wrong, but fairly positive here.)
Or the artist (and/or whoever approved the artwork) simply liked it. The skull could well mean nothing at all.
I have heard a vague rumour about another Xenos race a while ago but it was the vaguest of rumours so...who knows?
Personally I would really like to see Rak Ghol but I'm sure it would some something more 'normal'.
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2017/09/12 08:51:23
Subject: Re:Collected rumors regarding a new 40K race
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Missionary On A Mission
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Latest WD had a short article on the new Citadel Skulls box.
Among the skulls you’ll find human
ones (with and without jawbones), Ork
(or orruk if you’re so inclined), T’au,
Kroot, beastman, other beastman,
Daemon (Bloodletter and
Plaguebearer), avian, Seraphon,
Genestealer, Ur-Ghul, ogor, Morghast
and one huge mega-skull that really
could be anything. It’s roughly the size
of a Stardrake’s head, but it looks
distinctly uglier.
Since the box features both 40K and AoS it could be something from either system. Since they mention it's size compared to a Stardrake I'd guess that's a hint at it being something AoS related.
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2017/09/12 09:07:06
Subject: Re:Collected rumors regarding a new 40K race
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Thanks for this thread, Kendo
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2017/09/12 09:18:27
Subject: Re:Collected rumors regarding a new 40K race
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I remember GW explicitly saying there would be a new faction during 8th edition. It was before 8th's release, and they said the new faction might not be ready for the launch.
But I can't find that quote anymore. Am I misremembering things?
In any case, the xenos index' skull might be a hint. I don't think it's the one in the basing skulls' box, since the one in the box doesn't seem to have 4 eyes.
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2017/09/12 09:18:31
Subject: Collected rumors regarding a new 40K race
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Sickening Carrion
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Just my personal observation here. The skull on the codex makes me think of insekts, with the 2 teeth/claws coming out from the mouth.
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2017/09/12 09:23:40
Subject: Collected rumors regarding a new 40K race
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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The Green one wrote:Just my personal observation here. The skull on the codex makes me think of insekts, with the 2 teeth/claws coming out from the mouth.
It does look like ant madibles. But insects don't have bones (but Xenos insects might).
Also there is a hole in the skull for a nose, so I expect that creature to have some type of nose (which is not very insect-like).
But when looking at the spikes on the sides of the skull, I can't help but picture the old metal zoanthropes
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2017/09/12 10:08:39
Subject: Collected rumors regarding a new 40K race
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Yu Jing Martial Arts Ninja
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It doesn't look too different to Vespids, maybe they're getting the full faction treatment.
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2017/09/12 10:08:58
Subject: Re:Collected rumors regarding a new 40K race
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Frightening Flamer of Tzeentch
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The skull on the cover looks like a more stylised version of an Ambull.
Ambulls were very old GW-versions of a D&D creature, an Umberhulk. There was a metal miniature made of it back in the 1980s. They appeared in both Fantasy and 40k bestiaries.
The skull in the new skulls box isn't necessarily an AoS race; they simply compared it to a Stardrake, that's all.
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2017/09/12 10:29:02
Subject: Re:Collected rumors regarding a new 40K race
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[MOD]
Otiose in a Niche
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fresus wrote:I remember GW explicitly saying there would be a new faction during 8th edition. It was before 8th's release, and they said the new faction might not be ready for the launch.
But I can't find that quote anymore. Am I misremembering things?
In any case, the xenos index' skull might be a hint. I don't think it's the one in the basing skulls' box, since the one in the box doesn't seem to have 4 eyes.
I vaguely remember someone at GW saying when the Xeno codexes came we'd see something we never saw before.
Anyone remember this?
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2017/09/12 11:37:56
Subject: Collected rumors regarding a new 40K race
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Ridin' on a Snotling Pump Wagon
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Lacrymole.
It's a Lacyrmole skull on the front of Index Xenos
Described as shape shifters, which could make for an interesting race, and may not require a great deal of new models?
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2017/09/12 11:47:39
Subject: Collected rumors regarding a new 40K race
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Stone Bonkers Fabricator General
A garden grove on Citadel Station
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That pic ain't workin for me.
Edit: working
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2017/09/12 12:11:53
Subject: Collected rumors regarding a new 40K race
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:Lacrymole.
It's a Lacyrmole skull on the front of Index Xenos
Described as shape shifters, which could make for an interesting race, and may not require a great deal of new models?
This skull doesn't look very similar to the index' one to me.
Different nose, mandibles (close vs far apart), 6 additional teeth on the Lacrymole, 2 additional eyes on the index, plus the weird thing at the top of the skull, and the 4 rods on the sides…
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2017/09/12 12:26:27
Subject: Collected rumors regarding a new 40K race
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Fixture of Dakka
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Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:Lacrymole.
It's a Lacyrmole skull on the front of Index Xenos
Described as shape shifters, which could make for an interesting race, and may not require a great deal of new models?
It has similar mandibles, but the number of eyes are wrong. But then again if it's a shapeshifter that doesn't really matter. Automatically Appended Next Post: To OP- you might want to link Lady Atia's comment in the first post.
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2017/09/12 12:36:21
Subject: Collected rumors regarding a new 40K race
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Monstrous Master Moulder
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Pinch of salt, I fondly remember the 'Alien Hunters' codex a few years ago, which everyone thought was an absolute certainty and never emerged
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2017/09/12 12:59:00
Subject: Collected rumors regarding a new 40K race
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Maybe plastic Rangdan so the imperium can xenocide them again!
(note: I do not believe the rangdan will ever he released, even IF we get any amount of good info regarding them in the next forgeworld HH book)
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2017/09/12 13:19:38
Subject: Re:Collected rumors regarding a new 40K race
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Regular Dakkanaut
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I had also thought about this image but the mandible is different and there are not enough eyes. I believe a shape changing race would be difficult to pull off if GW could not create IP specific imagery related to a project.
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2017/09/12 13:40:09
Subject: Collected rumors regarding a new 40K race
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[MOD]
Otiose in a Niche
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winnertakesall wrote:Pinch of salt, I fondly remember the 'Alien Hunters' codex a few years ago, which everyone thought was an absolute certainty and never emerged
It came, just a decade later
IIRC the story was that GW split the Inquisition into 3 to justify doing a Grey Knights line and expanding sisters (neither got proper plastics at the time). There was a plan to do Ordo Xenos/Death Watch but at some point management changes killed it. Eventually GW realized that GKs would sell a lot better than Ordo Mallus so they got a codex and Sisters... we don't talk about what happened to them.
Anyway point being sometimes people will leak rumors about a project that is in fact underway but stops somewhere short of the finish line.
Everyone was sure Blood Bowl would come out a few years back, and eventually it did.
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2017/09/12 13:58:11
Subject: Re:Collected rumors regarding a new 40K race
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Stitch Counter
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Multiple eyes, mandibles... seems insect like - except for the fact it's clearly not an exoskeleton skull like you'd expect with insects.
My guess is the Bhargesi lurking over in the Grendl Stars...
The Barghesi, also spelled Bhargesi in some Imperial texts, are an extraordinarily aggressive and violent intelligent alien species that inhabits the Grendl Stars region of the Eastern Fringe of the galaxy. At some unknown point in the past, Imperial historical records indicate that the Iron Lords Chapter of Space Marines managed to contain the Barghesi within the Grendl Stars cluster and also prevented the Tyranid Hive Fleet Kraken from entering the region and harvesting the genetic potential of the Barghesi for use in new Tyranid biomorphs.
The Barghesi are such a violent species that the Dark Eldar sometimes raid their worlds and take slaves that are used by the Dark Eldar Beastmasters as opponents in the blood-stained gladiatorial arenas of Commorragh, their Dark City within the extradimensional confines of the Webway.
That said, after reading the Horus Heresy, I'd be hopin' for Megarachnids because.... Starship Troopers that's why.
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2017/09/12 14:00:28
Subject: Collected rumors regarding a new 40K race
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Ultramarine Master with Gauntlets of Macragge
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My only contribution to this is from the GW preview event at NOVA. When someone in the crowd asked the three Warhammer Community folks hosting what they'd like to see next, one joked plastic Sisters, Adam Troke said he'd like to see Inquisitor in 28mm scale, and the third, with a smirk, said a new race for 40k. Adam and the other guy feigned shock when he said that.
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2017/09/12 14:12:32
Subject: Collected rumors regarding a new 40K race
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Regular Dakkanaut
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MadCowCrazy wrote:I remember reading a long time ago that when Sisters of Battle are released there would be a campaign box of Sisters vs unknown alien race.
Rumour said something along the line of it being Sisters vs a faction that is currently not in the game.
This rumour was before the GSC were released so I was hoping there would be a Sisters vs GSC box but nope.
If GW released a new faction before making plastic Sisters I would feel very disappointed.
I hate to say it but they just did with Death Guard. They introduced dozens of new sculpts and models.
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