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Repulsors seem decent and I've got one that I'm keen to use. Part of the reason I want to use it is so that I can put my captain and librarian inside at the start of the game, so as to reduce the number of drops I have and increase my chances of getting first turn. I play crimson fists and have the special primaris captain with power fist, which I'll make into the fist of vengeance.

So what should go inside with them? Here are some options:

- 8 reivers. These guys seem decent at 18ppm. They can prevent overwatch. I'm not sure whether to go with swords or carbines for them - the latter option may actually be all-round better. In either case their ability to stun things with grenades is pretty cool. It might come in handy if my captain wants to beat up a predator or something, but would prefer not to eat lascannon shots from overwatch.

- X Hellblasters. Probably the rapid fire variety. Would benefit from the captain's reroll aura, but wouldn't provide back up in cc. Good at killing hard targets rather than chopping up hordes.

- 4 aggressors. I've got 6, so this could work ok, or I could buy another 3 and run two units: 4 in the repulsor and 5 on foot. I don't think I'd ever use flamer ones (unless perhaps playing salamanders), but these are a good all-round unit against hordes and big things.

- One of my intercessor squads. Nothing special, but since I've got 3 units of 5 there's nothing stopping me putting some in the repulsor. It would keep the drops down and mean I could buy something like a storm talon instead of spending points on a dedicated unit to ride in the repulsor.

- Nobody. There's no particular need to put people in the repulsor, though if I don't then it probably makes sense not to bring it and take something totally different. Not my preferred option after all the time I've spent building the thing!

So what do you think?

Idk my brother wanted repulsor for his birthday present. But after some ... time we decided it just not worth it. Tons of points. No invu, no 2+ save. Super easy target for all lascannons around. Even more than Land Raider thanks to 3+ instead of 2+.

And not much you want to transport in first place.

mario88826 wrote:
Idk my brother wanted repulsor for his birthday present. But after some ... time we decided it just not worth it. Tons of points. No invu, no 2+ save. Super easy target for all lascannons around. Even more than Land Raider thanks to 3+ instead of 2+.

And not much you want to transport in first place.

Yeah I hear what you're saying. I think that a lot of the value of the repulsor is in making you more likely to get first turn, and perhaps protecting hellblasters from enemy fire. It isn't all that tough, particularly when quite a lot of AA guns get +1 to hit it.

I do also think it has a place for defending against deep strike assault armies. 2" off your charge distance makes a big difference. Turning a 9" charge into an 11" one seriously drops the chances of it working. Since it flies, the repulsor can't be locked down like a land raider could be.

It looks like the hellblasters are probably the best option, so far.

I've seen some people say to run it with an anti-horde loadout and stuff it with some hellblasters with the assault loadout.

I defintely use it for Hellblaster transport, with rapid fire Plasma Incinerator loadouts. I don't think the assault plasma is better choice..

Mandragola wrote:

mario88826 wrote:
Idk my brother wanted repulsor for his birthday present. But after some ... time we decided it just not worth it. Tons of points. No invu, no 2+ save. Super easy target for all lascannons around. Even more than Land Raider thanks to 3+ instead of 2+.

And not much you want to transport in first place.

Yeah I hear what you're saying. I think that a lot of the value of the repulsor is in making you more likely to get first turn, and perhaps protecting hellblasters from enemy fire. It isn't all that tough, particularly when quite a lot of AA guns get +1 to hit it.

I do also think it has a place for defending against deep strike assault armies. 2" off your charge distance makes a big difference. Turning a 9" charge into an 11" one seriously drops the chances of it working. Since it flies, the repulsor can't be locked down like a land raider could be.

It looks like the hellblasters are probably the best option, so far.

Well I'm Heretic Astartes not Loyalist hehe, but yeah of course there are some merits to take Repulsor - solid dakka would be already good one. But idk about this whole protection for Helblasters.

Myself I will direct anything I have in my arsenal to take down Repulsor - because with cargo it often rounds around 600 points lol. And if I take it down some helblasters may die in process aswell.
It's not as tanky as some people think it is - it's indeed resilient to charges due to -2 rolls , but still those termies can unleash some plasma etc at point blank rapid fire range and bust it.

Basically Repulsor is also dream target for all kind of Lascannons or new Enthropy cannon etc - putting it at 6+ or no save respectively. Sure it got 16 wounds, but it's nothing solid dakka cannot take down in one turn.

That being said - I don't claim it's bad - but it suffers from same problem as Land Raider. Crapton of points and equally as many inside of it . So your opponent will do anything he can to take it down.

Really 160ish point tanks like Plagueburst crawler are more resillient than Repulsor. What it lacks is invu save . Though i'm glad it doesn't have one. That is unfluffy.

GW fethed up and didn't give primaris any transport at all - Repulsor is more like mobile artillery that can transport stuff aswell to me.
Primaris would have use for some less than 300 pts transport for sure.

Both Land Raider and Repulsor could use some point reduction - but NOT big reduction.

Myself I would also want to pay less than 350 points to transport my DG terminators ;x.

Its really only worth running if you are doing pure primarus as its the only option.

its great for aggressors and lowering deployment count with characters. otherwise you got to think of it less as a transport and more as a very spiky t8 predator.

To expand on mario, personally i feel like everything would of been better if the primarus had a cheaper alternative turret top with no gun to keep the base price cheaper.

and hellbaster heavy variant to be 2/3 damage instead of 1/2 to offset the lack of a dedicated anti tank weapon.

Ive had a lot of success with running Repulsors in the Dakka format with hellblasters inside but I just received some aggressors to try out. I personally like the tank itself because it puts out an unbelievable amount of shots and its always moving. Having Guilliman hang out next to a dakka repulsor is just plain filthy. Ive also put 2 squads of 5 intercessors inside for some great objective grabs with sturdy units, as well as some reliable firepower. Combo this with another high priority target like a squad of hellblasters/ancient, Predator Chronos, or Stormraven and it will live longer than you expect. Since its fairly sturdy on its own it can act as a decent firesponge.

Yeah I definitely plan on running it with back up. The list I'm painting up at the moment has a storm raven as well, and either a contemptor mortis with lascannons or a storm talon. There should be plenty of other things for people to fire their lascannons at, and hopefully I'll get to silence some of their guns before they can fire.

I can't claim it's all that much of a vehicle-heavy list though. Part of my plan is to use the two flyers and the repulsor as bubble wrap against deep strikers, but that will obviously put them at considerable risk of getting killed.

I find that the best thing to put into a Repulsor is the empty and shattered dreams that you had for viability of the Primaris line

 tpogs wrote:
I find that the best thing to put into a Repulsor is the empty and shattered dreams that you had for viability of the Primaris line

Why. iv done fairly fantastic with my full primarus imperial fist list.

It's a good centerpiece for an armored or mechanized list, but it isn't tournament level competetive

Space marines in general aren't tournament competetive outside the g man though, though i respect Reece's lias list

stratigo wrote:
It's a good centerpiece for an armored or mechanized list, but it isn't tournament level competetive

Space marines in general aren't tournament competetive outside the g man though, though i respect Reece's lias list

How well do you think they would do once conscripts and FW get reigned in

stratigo wrote:
It's a good centerpiece for an armored or mechanized list, but it isn't tournament level competetive

Space marines in general aren't tournament competetive outside the g man though, though i respect Reece's lias list

Well, I think if you put g man behind this one, it would likely become a true gunboat. Also, I found Hellblaster is one of the unit that benefit from g man the most. By mathhammer, against T7 3+ vehicles / monsters, a 5 men squad overcharging in 15 inch range will even outperforms 4 Lascannon Devastator with Armorium Cherub, assuming both squad are under g man buff.

 Desubot wrote:

 tpogs wrote:
I find that the best thing to put into a Repulsor is the empty and shattered dreams that you had for viability of the Primaris line

Why. iv done fairly fantastic with my full primaris imperial fist list.

I'm really interested in a Primaris army but it's lack of competitive nature has dissuaded me from buying any. I did win a pack of Reavers though!

Anyway, just curious what your list is in short-hand form and what exactly you meant by "fairly fantastic". The combination of literature makes me cringe as it's like saying that restaurant has 'really okay' food. It lacks true definition.

Do you win at local games/tourneys? Do you win among friends? Do you go outside of your normal gaming group? What are they running? I'm honestly just curious because as far as I can tell every single primaris, or primaris related, model is hot poopy. Haha

Hellblasters, as those are the only really useful primaris unit.

Saythings wrote:

 Desubot wrote:

 tpogs wrote:
I find that the best thing to put into a Repulsor is the empty and shattered dreams that you had for viability of the Primaris line

Why. iv done fairly fantastic with my full primaris imperial fist list.

I'm really interested in a Primaris army but it's lack of competitive nature has dissuaded me from buying any. I did win a pack of Reavers though!

Anyway, just curious what your list is in short-hand form and what exactly you meant by "fairly fantastic". The combination of literature makes me cringe as it's like saying that restaurant has 'really okay' food. It lacks true definition.

Do you win at local games/tourneys? Do you win among friends? Do you go outside of your normal gaming group? What are they running? I'm honestly just curious because as far as I can tell every single primaris, or primaris related, model is hot poopy. Haha

Ha sorry. its at 2k Captain, Librarian, Chap, 2 lieutenants, ancient, 3 5x intersestors with grenade and powersword, 3 5x hellblasters rapid fire, 3 bullet aggressors, inside a las repulsor and a redemptor. arranged into a battalion, vanguard and spearhead (or whatever they are called)

naturally some of those parts could of been swapped out for non primarus versions to keep it much much cheaper but thats not the point of having fun and having a cool looking army.

Playing friends at my FLG, im in the hobby dead zone so no really desire to drive 2 hours to the nearest other game store. its not ez mode spam elysians and conscripts level of game play but we dont just hang out their make push over baby lists.