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I've been playing around with the idea of starting an emperor's children army but i'm not sure where to really start. I've never played chaos but have always liked the play style and look of the children with the whole noise and guitar marine concept. My local meta really consists of some Commander/Drone Tau spam, Khorne Demons, tzeench demons, necros and typical conscript/ork hordes with your occasional Space Marine list. I'm trying to make it TAC but i'm still trying to juggle how to face all the different styles of armies. Please help!!


++ Battalion Detachment +3CP (Chaos - Chaos Space Marines) [48 PL, 921pts] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Legion: Emperor's Children

+ HQ +

Chaos Lord [5 PL, 74pts]: Bolt pistol, Chainsword, Mark of Slaanesh

Lucius the Eternal [6 PL, 115pts]

+ Troops +

Noise Marines [6 PL, 129pts]
. Marine w/ Blastmaster: Blastmaster
. 2x Marine w/ boltgun
. Marine w/ Sonic blaster: Sonic Blaster
. Noise Champion: Doom siren, Power sword, Sonic blaster

Noise Marines [6 PL, 129pts]
. Marine w/ Blastmaster: Blastmaster
. 2x Marine w/ boltgun
. Marine w/ Sonic blaster: Sonic Blaster
. Noise Champion: Doom siren, Power sword, Sonic blaster

Noise Marines [6 PL, 129pts]
. Marine w/ Blastmaster: Blastmaster
. 2x Marine w/ boltgun
. Marine w/ Sonic blaster: Sonic Blaster
. Noise Champion: Doom siren, Power sword, Sonic blaster

+ Heavy Support +

Chaos Predator [9 PL, 160pts]: Mark of Slaanesh, Twin lascannon
. Two heavy bolters: 2x Heavy bolter

+ Flyer +

Heldrake [10 PL, 185pts]: Baleflamer, Heldrake claws, Mark of Slaanesh

++ Outrider Detachment +1CP (Chaos - Chaos Space Marines) [26 PL, 554pts] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Legion: Emperor's Children

+ HQ +

Daemon Prince with Wings [9 PL, 189pts]: Intoxicating Elixir, Malefic talon, Warp bolter
. Slaanesh: Diabolic Strength

+ Fast Attack +

Chaos Bikers [5 PL, 115pts]: Mark of Slaanesh
. Chaos Biker: Chainsword, Meltagun
. Chaos Biker: Chainsword, Meltagun
. Chaos Biker Champion: Combi-bolter, Power sword

Chaos Bikers [5 PL, 115pts]: Mark of Slaanesh
. Chaos Biker: Chainsword, Meltagun
. Chaos Biker: Chainsword, Meltagun
. Chaos Biker Champion: Combi-bolter, Power sword

Warp Talons [7 PL, 135pts]: Mark of Slaanesh
. 4x Warp Talon: 4x Lightning Claw (pair)
. Warp Talon Champion: Lightning Claw (pair)

++ Super-Heavy Auxiliary Detachment (Chaos - Questor Traitoris) [23 PL, 524pts] ++

+ Lord of War +

Renegade Knight [23 PL, 524pts]: Meltagun, Reaper chainsword, Stormspear Rocket Pod
. Avenger gatling cannon and heavy flamer: Heavy flamer

++ Total: [97 PL, 1999pts] ++

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Also Edited My list a bit to add some demons but not sure of what the optimal build is at the moment.


++ Battalion Detachment +3CP (Chaos - Chaos Space Marines) [48 PL, 933pts] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Legion: Emperor's Children

+ HQ +

Daemon Prince with Wings [9 PL, 189pts]: Malefic talon, Warp bolter
. Slaanesh: Diabolic Strength

Lucius the Eternal [6 PL, 115pts]

Sorcerer on Bike [8 PL, 146pts]: Combi-bolter, Combi-bolter, Force sword, Intoxicating Elixir, Mark of Slaanesh, Prescience, Warptime

+ Troops +

Chaos Cultists [3 PL, 40pts]: 9x Chaos Cultist w/ autopistol and brutal assault weapon, Mark of Slaanesh
. Cultist Champion: Brutal assault weapon and Autopistol

Noise Marines [6 PL, 129pts]
. Marine w/ Blastmaster: Blastmaster
. 2x Marine w/ boltgun
. Marine w/ Sonic blaster: Sonic Blaster
. Noise Champion: Doom siren, Power sword, Sonic blaster

Noise Marines [6 PL, 129pts]
. Marine w/ Blastmaster: Blastmaster
. 2x Marine w/ boltgun
. Marine w/ Sonic blaster: Sonic Blaster
. Noise Champion: Doom siren, Power sword, Sonic blaster

+ Flyer +

Heldrake [10 PL, 185pts]: Baleflamer, Heldrake claws, Mark of Slaanesh

++ Spearhead Detachment (Chaos - Chaos Space Marines) [18 PL, 364pts] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Legion: Emperor's Children

+ Heavy Support +

Chaos Predator [9 PL, 182pts]: Combi-flamer, Havoc launcher, Mark of Slaanesh, Twin lascannon
. Two heavy bolters: 2x Heavy bolter

Chaos Predator [9 PL, 182pts]: Combi-flamer, Havoc launcher, Mark of Slaanesh, Twin lascannon
. Two heavy bolters: 2x Heavy bolter

++ Super-Heavy Auxiliary Detachment (Chaos - Questor Traitoris) [23 PL, 524pts] ++

+ Lord of War +

Renegade Knight [23 PL, 524pts]: Meltagun, Reaper chainsword, Stormspear Rocket Pod
. Avenger gatling cannon and heavy flamer: Heavy flamer

++ Spearhead Detachment +1CP (Chaos - Daemons) [9 PL, 170pts] ++

+ HQ +

The Masque of Slaanesh [4 PL, 78pts]

+ Heavy Support +

Exalted Seeker Chariot [5 PL, 92pts]

++ Total: [98 PL, 1991pts] ++

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That's a lot of things for a 2000 point list. Your opponent is going to shiver in fear. However, I'd put more sonic blasters in your units of Noise marines and maybe add some rhinos to move them around, just in case. Maybe also give a jump pack to the lord. Or put him in a terminator armour.

My 2 cents is that Renegade Knight its cool but to expensive for what it does . its 1/4 of your points, you could field 3 havoc units with 12 LC with rerolls from lucian and if you give them icon of slanesh against imperium forces you could get more shots of .
that be great for dealing with crons means kill every thing in the unit in 1 turn giving no res .
(yes its not fun to play ) you could take 2 units and then invest in terminator assin units with sorcerers to give them warp time and assault 1st turn kit them out with combi weapons flamers a melta that way you can assault ,stick in single a chain fist in there so you can deal some high T opponents
flamers are great against well demons tau and orks , and for over watch if they charge you.
they are expendable shock troops to trow a monkey wrench in your opponents plans forcing him to deal with them and hope the rest of your army gets less of an hassel hope my input helps

So after a little tweaking i took your advice and re-arranged the army, i can take the knight to spice things up every once in a while


++ Vanguard Detachment (Chaos - FW Heretic Astartes) [16 PL, 318pts] ++

+ Elites +

Sonic Dreadnought [8 PL, 159pts]: Doom siren, Missile launcher, Twin blastmaster

Sonic Dreadnought [8 PL, 159pts]: Doom siren, Missile launcher, Twin blastmaster

++ Battalion Detachment +3CP (Chaos - Chaos Space Marines) [67 PL, 1310pts] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Legion: Emperor's Children

+ HQ +

Chaos Lord in Terminator Armour [6 PL, 111pts]: Combi-bolter, Mark of Slaanesh, Power maul, The Black Mace

Daemon Prince with Wings [9 PL, 189pts]: Intoxicating Elixir, Malefic talon, Warp bolter
. Slaanesh: Diabolic Strength

+ Troops +

Chaos Cultists [3 PL, 40pts]: 9x Chaos Cultist w/ autopistol and brutal assault weapon, Mark of Slaanesh
. Cultist Champion: Brutal assault weapon and Autopistol

Chaos Cultists [3 PL, 40pts]: 9x Chaos Cultist w/ autopistol and brutal assault weapon, Mark of Slaanesh
. Cultist Champion: Brutal assault weapon and Autopistol

Noise Marines [6 PL, 133pts]
. Marine w/ Blastmaster: Blastmaster
. 3x Marine w/ Sonic blaster: 3x Sonic Blaster
. Noise Champion: Chainsword, Doom siren, Sonic blaster

Noise Marines [6 PL, 133pts]
. Marine w/ Blastmaster: Blastmaster
. 3x Marine w/ Sonic blaster: 3x Sonic Blaster
. Noise Champion: Chainsword, Doom siren, Sonic blaster

Noise Marines [6 PL, 133pts]
. Marine w/ Blastmaster: Blastmaster
. 3x Marine w/ Sonic blaster: 3x Sonic Blaster
. Noise Champion: Chainsword, Doom siren, Sonic blaster

+ Heavy Support +

Chaos Predator [9 PL, 173pts]: Combi-bolter, Havoc launcher, Mark of Slaanesh, Twin lascannon
. Two heavy bolters: 2x Heavy bolter

Chaos Predator [9 PL, 173pts]: Combi-bolter, Havoc launcher, Mark of Slaanesh, Twin lascannon
. Two heavy bolters: 2x Heavy bolter

+ Flyer +

Heldrake [10 PL, 185pts]: Baleflamer, Heldrake claws, Mark of Slaanesh

++ Vanguard Detachment +1CP (Chaos - Chaos Space Marines) [22 PL, 361pts] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Legion: Emperor's Children

+ HQ +

Sorcerer on Bike [8 PL, 146pts]: Combi-bolter, Combi-bolter, Force sword, Mark of Slaanesh, Prescience, Warptime

+ Elites +

Chaos Terminators [14 PL, 215pts]: Mark of Slaanesh
. Chaos Terminator Champion: 2x Lightning Claw
. Terminator: 2x Lightning Claw
. Terminator: 2x Lightning Claw
. Terminator: 2x Lightning Claw
. Terminator: 2x Lightning Claw

++ Total: [105 PL, 1989pts] ++

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Whats are your plans for that chaos Lord in terminator armor?

Currently hes there for the aura for rerolls for Assault. Any suggestions?

So what is the strategy for your army?

General Strat is to:

A - Use and Abuse Cultists for Capping Objectives as well as using Stratagem to Bring back to Full Strength

B- Use Noise Marines and Heldrake to deal with Infantry/Light Armor and to use Stratagem to Shoot Twice

C- Chaos Lord and Termi for Potential Alpha Strike or Flank on objective and abuse Slaaneshi Synergy by always attacking first and re-rolling.

D- Predators, Sonic Dreads, and Daemon Prince for Anti-Armor

Do you have any suggestions?

Looking at your army list, it feels like you are trying to do too much.

There's not much synergy between the Noise Marines and the Terminators / Heldrake, at least in it's current form. I see each one as the potential core of your army but (right now) each one takes away from the other.

The Terminators are good deep strike assault unit, but they need something to back them up. That could be the Noise Marines, but they a) lack a dedicated transport option and b) are too small to really benefit from stratagems like Endless Cacophony.

As for the rest, I could see the Heldrake as a distraction unit, but not really something that's going to be taking out light armor. The Baleflamer is more for troops. I like the Sonic Dreadnoughts, but you could have more Laspreds for 40 points more - almost feels like a waste. I am not sure what you are going to do with the Daemon Prince early game as you are not going to want to expose him to shooting moving up the board on his own.

A few suggestions:

1) Commit to Noise Marines or Terminators. Each one is good, but neither one is all that great in it's current form.

2) Your Predators are going to be big targets, don't expect them to be around throughout the game. Drop the Heavy Bolters, get Lascannon sponsons instead. Sure, the wounds from Heavy Bolters can spill over to other models in a unit, but a Lascannon has the range and damage output to kill something in the first turn.

3) Consider dropping one Sonic Dreadnought for a Laspred instead. This gets you the Killshot stratagem. It's worth it.

4) Consider taking Warptime on the Daemon Prince. Intoxicating Elixir already buffs him, and it will likely be more important to get him into charge range when you move him forward. No regular units on the board move as fast as him, you don't want him getting shot up because you left him exposed.

5) Consider getting bigger Noise Marine squads. Endless Cacophony is great on large units, it's generally not worth 2 CP on small units. When I use Endless Cacophony on 10x Noise Marine squads, I expect to cripple a unit each turn. These NMs can't do that.

So something like this then:


++ Spearhead Detachment +1CP (Chaos - Chaos Space Marines) [35 PL, 714pts] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Legion: Emperor's Children

+ HQ +

Sorcerer on Bike [8 PL, 144pts]: Bolt pistol, Combi-bolter, Force sword, Gift of Chaos, Mark of Slaanesh, Prescience

+ Heavy Support +

Chaos Predator [9 PL, 190pts]: Mark of Slaanesh, Twin lascannon
. Two lascannons: 2x Lascannon

Chaos Predator [9 PL, 190pts]: Mark of Slaanesh, Twin lascannon
. Two lascannons: 2x Lascannon

Chaos Predator [9 PL, 190pts]: Mark of Slaanesh, Twin lascannon
. Two lascannons: 2x Lascannon

++ Battalion Detachment +3CP (Chaos - Chaos Space Marines) [50 PL, 981pts] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Legion: Emperor's Children

+ HQ +

Chaos Lord in Terminator Armour [6 PL, 111pts]: Combi-bolter, Mark of Slaanesh, Power maul, The Black Mace

Daemon Prince with Wings [9 PL, 189pts]: Intoxicating Elixir, Malefic talon, Warp bolter
. Slaanesh: Warptime

+ Troops +

Chaos Cultists [3 PL, 40pts]: 9x Chaos Cultist w/ autopistol and brutal assault weapon, Mark of Slaanesh
. Cultist Champion: Brutal assault weapon and Autopistol

Noise Marines [11 PL, 228pts]
. Marine w/ Blastmaster: Blastmaster
. 8x Marine w/ Sonic blaster: 8x Sonic Blaster
. Noise Champion: Chainsword, Doom siren, Sonic blaster

Noise Marines [11 PL, 228pts]
. Marine w/ Blastmaster: Blastmaster
. 8x Marine w/ Sonic blaster: 8x Sonic Blaster
. Noise Champion: Chainsword, Doom siren, Sonic blaster

+ Flyer +

Heldrake [10 PL, 185pts]: Baleflamer, Heldrake claws, Mark of Slaanesh

++ Battalion Detachment (Chaos - FW Heretic Astartes) [16 PL, 304pts] ++

+ Elites +

Sonic Dreadnought [8 PL, 152pts]: Helbrute fist, Twin blastmaster

Sonic Dreadnought [8 PL, 152pts]: Helbrute fist, Twin blastmaster

++ Total: [101 PL, 1999pts] ++

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