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Just one model with BC for the warboss (a part for warboss Grukk's boss mob... ).
No way to get a big mek other than the niche Shokk attack gun option.
To have a kustom force field you have to buy the meganobz box...
Lack of HQ on bike models.
Ok, if you play Orks the game is also to custom build stuff, put bits togheter and so on but, following the new (more or less) "user friendly" trend of GW, wouldn't be bad some new model to waste money on...
Anyone agree or knows some rumours about new orks models may be with the codex? Too soon?

(There is also the new scaling issue... with everything getting slowly bigger small boyz may look strange... but ok, it's make pretend anyways)

It's pretty much clear that new GW releases are related to the upcoming codexes. We had a massive primaris release in the last months and the SM codex has been the fist to show up, now it's the death guard turn. I think orks will have 3-4 releases when their codex will be out. Probably characters and buggies, maybe a new infantry unit.

If you get a codex this year your almost certainly screwed for new stuff. So hope you aren't.

 Gamgee wrote:
If you get a codex this year your almost certainly screwed for new stuff. So hope you aren't.

Yeah, I agree.
I really don't know how well are selling orks nowadays, so I don't know how much GW is interested to produce new stuff... but surely it's not soon.
I'm still deciding if I'm more impatient for a codex or for new models though.

Totally wishlisting, not based on any rumors but rather than what we lack, I'd say:

Ghazghkull Thraka as a centerpiece if the release
Weirdboy
Big Mek with KFF
Tankbustas
Kommandos
Warbuggy/Wartrakk combo kit
Deffkoptas (still baffles me why they don't have AoBR koptas as a kit available)

Everything in plastic obviously. I don't really think we need something totally new, but I wouldn't be surprised if GW releases something that even veteran Ork collectors might be interested in.

Ok, I like the game:

- Warboss with weapons and gear options
- Proper Thraka model
- Big mek with KFF bits
- Deffkoptas
- Warbuggy (Because this model sucks... I wouldn't put them on the table anyways...)

I'm quickly building my army now, have to buy tankbustas... do you list them because they are still metal?

For the weirdboy the AoS one is not bad, may be adding some 40k bits for customisation.

If GW wants to be really evil, they could also do upgrade kits (should read "overpriced boxes of spare bits") to convert a nob or a bike in mek or in painboy. So to quickly solve the lack of single models.

I don't think we'll have new tankbustas or kommandos kits, since they're basically boyz with rokkit launcha and boyz in a stabbing position with a backpack.

Both can be easily converted from standard boyz which means a new kit of these units is not going to sell enough.

Since our HQs are obsolete models with 10+ years (ghaz, grtosnik and warboss around 20 now) it's quite likely to get some new characters. Buggies are even older which is why they can be re-packed with updated plastic models. New units are possible, but not granted since orks already have a huge catalogue. But we need a tank (a gun boat, not a transport) for example, with the cut of the looted wagon we don't have anything comparable to ravagers, predators, vindicators, leman russes, etc...

 Blackie wrote:
I don't think we'll have new tankbustas or kommandos kits, since they're basically boyz with rokkit launcha and boyz in a stabbing position with a backpack.

Both can be easily converted from standard boyz which means a new kit of these units is not going to sell enough.

Since our HQs are obsolete models with 10+ years (ghaz, grtosnik and warboss around 20 now) it's quite likely to get some new characters. Buggies are even older which is why they can be re-packed with updated plastic models. New units are possible, but not granted since orks already have a huge catalogue. But we need a tank (a gun boat, not a transport) for example, with the cut of the looted wagon we don't have anything comparable to ravagers, predators, vindicators, leman russes, etc...

Sure Tankbustas can be converted easily, that's what I have done. However they are really monopose with the same rokkit launcha each. And I believe GWs long term strategy is to phase out finecast anyway. Boyz sprue of 5 boyz and an upgrade sprue for either Kommandos or Tankbustas would go a long way. But I guess they would go for full resculpts rather than upgrade sprues at this point since the Boyz kit is not really brand new anymore.

But anyway like I said that was wishlisting and not based on what is likely and what is not. In HQ section we have a glaring lack of models so there has to be something new planned.

Stuff in Finecast is likely to go assuming there's model releases at all. For models like Tankbustas/Kommandos which are basic Boyz with different weapons I'd expect a combined kit.

Sorry wrong thread

 Weazel wrote:


Sure Tankbustas can be converted easily, that's what I have done. However they are really monopose with the same rokkit launcha each.

Actually you can easily have several different poses. Not only using the standard rokkits, you can convert shootas into rokkit launchas by using the kombi-rokkits bitz. Arms with bombs are a nice add too, we have 2 of them in the boyz squad and another couple in the stormboyz kit I believe, they are an excellent add for tankbustas that wield their rokkit launcha with one hand, typically a converted slugga. I've also used some AM missile launchers that I've bough for dirty cheap (6 for around 2 euro) on a bitz site.

Yes with boyz and nobz boxes you can arrange a pretty diverse tankbustas range of miniatures... But how for bomb squigs?
(And attack squig too, for warboss, that is an auto-add being free).

Nice konversion ideas! I'm going to have to try out that kombi rokkits thing.

The trouble with the older metal models is that Tankbustas didn't all have rokkits in the older editions, so the models come equipped with tankbusta bombs, sluggas or stikkbombs.
I still have 4 lying around and haven't decided if I want to hack them up just yet.

I agree that we need some more Warboss variation, I was lucky enough to pick up the 'pointing with attack squig' model before it mysteriously disappeared but I think will still have to buy a Fantasy Ork Warboss just to get some cool conversion bits. We shouldn't need to buy three different models just to get the options we want!

I've bought a set of Goliath Mines from Kromlech to use as Bomb Squiqs... They look more Orky than Squigs ever will.

 Weazel wrote:
I've bought a set of Goliath Mines from Kromlech to use as Bomb Squiqs... They look more Orky than Squigs ever will.

Really nice, thanks for the advice

Tbh, the thing I'm hoping for most when Orks roll around are Clan bonuses not being dependent on all the units in a detachment sharing the same Clan. Ork warbands are *supposed* to be a load of different clans. Maybe hark back to the old RT-era army composition by saying you can give things <clan> as long as you have at least one boyz mob from that clan in the detachment?


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But if we're talking about models, I'm pretty much sorted for Orks, having been buying, building and painting them for the last 25-odd years. But were I coming to them fresh, here's what I'd like to see:

• a wider variety of heads for the basic boyz kit. Clan-specific bits too. Oh and pop Ardboyz back in the Codex and include bitz for them in the boyz kit.

• wider variety of grot poses/heads. With these, and the boyz, you need so many of them it'd be nice if there were fewer duplicates

• dual Tankbusta/Kommando kit

• Warboss/MAWb/Big Mek/Weirdboy kits with all the options

• new buggies/tracks/deffkoptas

• Grots & Squigs kit; something you could use to build Grot Orderlies/Oilers Attack/Bomb squig etc

• Painboy figure that isn't total gak

Think that p. much covers it.

Couldn't care less about Ghaz/any other named characters; they're boring. Create your own guys; Roleplay That gak.

 Oldboy666 wrote:
Ok, I like the game:

- Warboss with weapons and gear options
- Proper Thraka model
- Big mek with KFF bits
- Deffkoptas
- Warbuggy (Because this model sucks... I wouldn't put them on the table anyways...)

I'm quickly building my army now, have to buy tankbustas... do you list them because they are still metal?

For the weirdboy the AoS one is not bad, may be adding some 40k bits for customisation.

If GW wants to be really evil, they could also do upgrade kits (should read "overpriced boxes of spare bits") to convert a nob or a bike in mek or in painboy. So to quickly solve the lack of single models.

I don't count tankbustas because you get one with every boyz kit and loota/burna kit Slowly, as you build an ork army, you accumulate tankbustas just by building the rokkit boyz.

the_scotsman wrote:

 Oldboy666 wrote:
Ok, I like the game:

- Warboss with weapons and gear options
- Proper Thraka model
- Big mek with KFF bits
- Deffkoptas
- Warbuggy (Because this model sucks... I wouldn't put them on the table anyways...)

I'm quickly building my army now, have to buy tankbustas... do you list them because they are still metal?

For the weirdboy the AoS one is not bad, may be adding some 40k bits for customisation.

If GW wants to be really evil, they could also do upgrade kits (should read "overpriced boxes of spare bits") to convert a nob or a bike in mek or in painboy. So to quickly solve the lack of single models.

I don't count tankbustas because you get one with every boyz kit and loota/burna kit Slowly, as you build an ork army, you accumulate tankbustas just by building the rokkit boyz.

I dunno, it'd be nice to have a proper TB kit. This approach requires you to have about ten boyz for every Tanky B. It's a bit like saying "why should there be a Marine Davastator kit? Just buy four Tac squads for every Dev squad you want to field."


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(And I say this as someone who *has* built his tankbustas the hard way. It's a proper arseache.

I wonder exactly how big Thraka would be once he gets a proper plastic model. Typhus wasn't that big in the fluff but his new model is EXTRA THICC. Ghaz better be, at minimum, Dreadnought sized (if not contemptor sized).

I think his size will depend on his stats. If he's sub-10 wounds I would expect him to be much bigger than Guilliman. You don't want a Magnus sized model with 8 wounds or something silly.

Total wish listing from me but. I would like to see the Beast re appear. Imagine the hulk really really angry. He could be the Orks answer to the RG. On the table I could imagine a tough as nails melee unit with some nice rules for charging head long into combat as well as frenzy buffs for surrounding units.

Some of the Warhammer Rumor Engine stuff looks to be pointing at Orky things. Some armor plates and an orky looking tire.. Hopefully that implies some good things for Orks to come soon!

I really want a big boy Ghazy. I want him big and I want him chunky. He should be able to go toe to to with Rowboat Girlyman as he is easily the biggest and baddest Ork in the entire galaxy.

Ork model line is pretty solid actually.

Kommandos and Tankbustaz can get a redo. For vehicles, buggy/koptaz.

Really all orkz lack atm are plastic HQ options, and due to the new Character as Elites policy we seem to be seeing, its almost a guarantee for more character type OddBoyz in their eventual splash release.

 Oldboy666 wrote:


But how for bomb squigs?

I've made mine by cutting the squig hound from the runtherd army and gluing on the squig back the backpack with bombs which is included in both the nobz and the boyz kits. Fits perfectly and it's almost for free, since you may need 20 grots anyway. And you don't need that backpack for boyz or nobz or the squig hound for gretchin units. Here's the pic:

Ah yes, the stikkbomb backpack... I have plenty.
I was just thinking about buying the gretch
There are some tankbusta bombs also in the boyz and nobz boxes, may be attached to the arm.
And may be also the smaller rockets parts in the stormboyz box.

 Blackie wrote:
But we need a tank (a gun boat, not a transport) for example, with the cut of the looted wagon we don't have anything comparable to ravagers, predators, vindicators, leman russes, etc...

This. The current incarnation of the battlewagon is too expensive and too tough too fill this role, it's more like a landraider now than ever.
We pretty much need a slightly more durable trukk with the guns of a naut.

Currently the only HQs available in plastic are Gukk (PK warboss), the MA big mek (as part of the MANz box) and the SAG.

Units without proper plastic kits right now are:
- Warboss with BC
- Warboss in Mega-Armor
- Big Mek without MA or SAG
- Weirdboy
- Boss Zagstrukk, Boss Snikrot, Kaptin' Badrukk, Ghazghkull Thrakka and Mad Dok Grotznik
- Warboss on bike, Big Mek on bike, Painboy on bike
- Arguably nobz on bikes. The warbiker box has three bikes and two nob torsos, no PKs. You can combine a box of nobz and two boxes of warbikers into 6 nobz on bikes though.
- Nob with Waaagh! banner
- Kommandoz
- Tankbustaz
- Big Guns (kannon, lobba, zzap gun)
- Deff kotaz are not available outside of AOBR koptaz that are no longer produced
- Skorchas, Wartrakks, Warbuggies

I really don't get where the cry for new boyz comes from. The model is decent, the interchangeability between the plastic sets is unmatched by other armies.
You can literally mix almost every bit from boyz, loota/burnaz, warbikers, runtherds, storm boyz and even the gunners from the battlewagon and planes kits. The nobz and flash gits also can be mixed&matched, plus the nobz fit warbikes perfectly.
Almost as if someone was thinking while designing them

I really hope they don't redo any of the current ork plastic kits, there is not a single one that needs attention. The list of things that actually need work is long enough to keep them busy for another two codex releases.

 Jidmah wrote:

 Blackie wrote:
But we need a tank (a gun boat, not a transport) for example, with the cut of the looted wagon we don't have anything comparable to ravagers, predators, vindicators, leman russes, etc...

This. The current incarnation of the battlewagon is too expensive and too tough too fill this role, it's more like a landraider now than ever.
We pretty much need a slightly more durable trukk with the guns of a naut.

Currently the only HQs available in plastic are Gukk (PK warboss), the MA big mek (as part of the MANz box) and the SAG.

Units without proper plastic kits right now are:
- Warboss with BC
- Warboss in Mega-Armor
- Big Mek without MA or SAG
- Weirdboy
- Boss Zagstrukk, Boss Snikrot, Kaptin' Badrukk, Ghazghkull Thrakka and Mad Dok Grotznik
- Warboss on bike, Big Mek on bike, Painboy on bike
- Arguably nobz on bikes. The warbiker box has three bikes and two nob torsos, no PKs. You can combine a box of nobz and two boxes of warbikers into 6 nobz on bikes though.
- Nob with Waaagh! banner
- Kommandoz
- Tankbustaz
- Big Guns (kannon, lobba, zzap gun)
- Deff kotaz are not available outside of AOBR koptaz that are no longer produced
- Skorchas, Wartrakks, Warbuggies

I really don't get where the cry for new boyz comes from. The model is decent, the interchangeability between the plastic sets is unmatched by other armies.
You can literally mix almost every bit from boyz, loota/burnaz, warbikers, runtherds, storm boyz and even the gunners from the battlewagon and planes kits. The nobz and flash gits also can be mixed&matched, plus the nobz fit warbikes perfectly.
Almost as if someone was thinking while designing them

I really hope they don't redo any of the current ork plastic kits, there is not a single one that needs attention. The list of things that actually need work is long enough to keep them busy for another two codex releases.

Sure no need and no sense to redo the plastic stuff.
Boyz models are wonderful being the basic swarm troops. Also stormboyz are very easy to mix. Normal nob PK arm is perfect to do the stormboyz nob.
Killa Kans are good, Deff Dread my favourite model. The only problem is the lack of weapon options in the boxes, but you can improvise easly. My first surgery on a model has been the KMB on a Killa Kan arm.

A little upset with Zagstrukk model quality...

Over all, sadly for my bank account, I'm really happy to have started in 40k with Orks.

But we really need the big mek options and new HQs and characters.

I don't think a lot of faction will have the death guard treatment with the big expansion. But big heroic range models seems to be the GW direction.
I don't believe in a "Mortarion" giant Thraka, but may be something comparable to Guilliman is possibile. 100mm base anyways.

Not sure if this is the right place to ask this, but does anyone have any idea when the Ork Codex will become available?

I've been hoarding Ork models for several years and keep waiting for some improvement in the rules before actually building an army. Decided it was time to give up on this dream unless the 8th edition rules are better than previous editions.

With regards to the quality of the models... I actually like the current range a lot. I have about 60 RT era Orks who are all very small by comparison.

 techsoldaten wrote:
Not sure if this is the right place to ask this, but does anyone have any idea when the Ork Codex will become available?

The most "reliable" rumor is "SOON SOON SOON"...

So we basically have no clue, within the next year is probably a safe bet though.

If you are not aiming for tournaments, IMO orks work pretty well when not facing one of the current top armies already.