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Trying to decide between regular marines and Primaris for my new Carcharodons project. Below is the regular marines list. General idea is that the captain and VV use SftS, the Sternguard and librarians go in the flyers, and the scouts and WW hunker down in the backfield.

++ Vanguard Detachment +1CP [50 PL, 755pts] ++

**Chapter Selection**: Raven Guard

+ HQ [6 PL, 100pts] +

Captain [6 PL, 100pts]: Chainsword, Jump Pack, Plasma pistol, Teeth of Terra

+ Elites [44 PL, 655pts] +

Sternguard Veteran Squad [14 PL, 215pts]
-Space Marine Veteran x7: Special issue boltgun
-Space Marine Veteran w/Heavy Weapon x2: Plasma gun
-Veteran Sergeant: Chainsword, Combi-plasma

Sternguard Veteran Squad [14 PL, 215pts]
-Space Marine Veteran x7: Special issue boltgun
-Space Marine Veteran w/Heavy Weapon x2: Plasma gun
-Veteran Sergeant: Chainsword, Combi-plasma

Vanguard Veteran Squad [16 PL, 225pts]: Jump Packs, Melta bombs
-Space Marine Veteran x4: Chainsword, Plasma pistol
-Space Marine Veteran x5: Bolt Pistol & Chainsword
-Veteran Sergeant: Plasma pistol, Power axe

++ Battalion Detachment +3CP [70 PL, 1245pts] ++

**Chapter Selection**: Raven Guard

+ HQ [12 PL, 210pts] +

Librarian [6 PL, 105pts]: Bolt pistol, Force sword

Librarian [6 PL, 105pts]: Bolt pistol, Force sword

+ Troops [18 PL, 239pts] +

Scout Squad [6 PL, 92pts]
-Scout Sergeant: Bolt pistol, Chainsword
-Scout w/Heavy Weapon: Missile launcher
-3x Scout w/Sniper Rifle

Scout Squad [6 PL, 92pts]
-Scout Sergeant: Bolt pistol, Chainsword
-Scout w/Heavy Weapon: Missile launcher
-3x Scout w/Sniper Rifle

Scout Squad [6 PL, 55pts]
-Scout Sergeant: Boltgun, Chainsword
-4x Scout w/Boltgun

+ Heavy Support [10 PL, 218pts] +

Whirlwind [5 PL, 109pts]: Whirlwind vengeance launcher

Whirlwind [5 PL, 109pts]: Whirlwind vengeance launcher

+ Flyer [30 PL, 578pts] +

Stormraven Gunship [15 PL, 289pts]: Twin heavy bolter, Twin lascannon, Two Hurricane Bolters, Two Stormstrike Missile Launchers

Stormraven Gunship [15 PL, 289pts]: Twin heavy bolter, Twin lascannon, Two Hurricane Bolters, Two Stormstrike Missile Launchers

++ Total: [120 PL, 2000pts] ++

I haven't been happy with any of the C:SM lists I've put together for my Carcharodons, including this one, but I did find a list using the Space Wolves Index that feels right:

https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/740654.page#9620897

So if you're thinking about posting in this thread, maybe head on over to that one instead?

MODS - Please lock this thread, or delete it, or whatever else works best to remove the clutter. Thanks!