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Eldar...on the 28th
   
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 bullyboy wrote:
Eldar...on the 28th


Why do you think that? I think it's Tyranids personally, warhammer community site had a teaser for something that could only come from the battle of mccragge boxed set.
   
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Eldar will most likely be next. I belive this as Nids are closely liked with Blood Angels and the battle for Baal. So I expect a Blood Angels codex to follow Nids.
   
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I would expect a blood angles codex when the are ready to release another primarch.
   
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Nids. For no other reason then I wish it.


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I play both. But i think its Eldar.
   
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I would hope it's eldar but at the same time I'm really hoping for new models which I'd imagine if there are any they'd release it last out of the 3 they listed.





 
   
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Gathering the Informations.

Eldar and Necrons are both ones that we have confirmation as to coming this year. They got announced when the Astra Militarum Codex did.
   
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 Kanluwen wrote:
Eldar and Necrons are both ones that we have confirmation as to coming this year. They got announced when the Astra Militarum Codex did.

Not necrons, Tyranids and Eldar.

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Dakka does have White Knights and is also rather infamous for it's Black Knights. A new edition brings out the passionate and not all of them are good at expressing themselves in written form. There have been plenty of hysterical responses from both sides so far. So we descend into pointless bickering with neither side listening to each other. So posting here becomes more masturbation than conversation.

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Gathering the Informations.

 Galas wrote:
 Kanluwen wrote:
Eldar and Necrons are both ones that we have confirmation as to coming this year. They got announced when the Astra Militarum Codex did.

Not necrons, Tyranids and Eldar.

Well there you go then.

I could have swore Necrons were mentioned, but c'est la vie.

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I guess I find the exact timing of the releases more interesting than which order they'll be in. I don't think we really have any reason to say one way or the other about that. Of course they could come out simultaneously like the Chaos and Grey Knight codices, but they'd probably prefer not to do that since they can do hive fleet / craftworld focus articles for a week for each of them. There's a lot more content in each of these than in the GK codex.

If I'm basically just guessing, I'd say that it makes more sense to do Tyranids first because they're less like the other releases. You can give them relatively interesting tactics and stratagems whereas the obvious stuff for Eldar is pretty similar to things we've seen already.

Presumably nothing's coming until after Shadespire. It pre-orders next weekend to release on the 21st. There could be a pre-order on the 21st, but would this have been mentioned in White Dwarf? Do they typically not include late-in-the-month releases so as to keep them a surprise?

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 Kanluwen wrote:
 Galas wrote:
 Kanluwen wrote:
Eldar and Necrons are both ones that we have confirmation as to coming this year. They got announced when the Astra Militarum Codex did.

Not necrons, Tyranids and Eldar.

Well there you go then.

I could have swore Necrons were mentioned, but c'est la vie.

Necrons were mentioned HERE in regards to Chapter Approved. Maybe that's what you're thinking of?

Since Warhammer 40,000: Dark Imperium was launched, we have released several codexes, but there are still plenty of Factions – Orks, Drukhari, Necrons etc. – that don’t yet have a codex of their own. Chapter Approved gives these players a sneak peek of what many of these factions can expect when their codex is released (we are hard on work to get that done as quickly as we can), but one of the things we wanted to do was give everyone access to ‘objective secured’ right away:

'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents
cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable
defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'

- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty
Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
 
   
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Dionysodorus wrote:

Presumably nothing's coming until after Shadespire. It pre-orders next weekend to release on the 21st. There could be a pre-order on the 21st, but would this have been mentioned in White Dwarf? Do they typically not include late-in-the-month releases so as to keep them a surprise?


No. White Dwarf is oddly dated recently. Not just because of the Warhammer Communities previews, but even more so than maybe a year ago.

September White Dwarf had Mortarion, but none of the other Death Guard stuff like Terminators, Tallyman, Typhus Biologus, etc., Deathshroud. These are all in the October White Dwarf, which is officially released tomorrow (?), despite the miniatures actually being out for 2-3 weeks in some cases.
   
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Dionysodorus wrote:
Presumably nothing's coming until after Shadespire. It pre-orders next weekend to release on the 21st. There could be a pre-order on the 21st, but would this have been mentioned in White Dwarf? Do they typically not include late-in-the-month releases so as to keep them a surprise?

I could see one of the two codex being releases between Shadespire and the two additional warbands (which should release two weeks after the core set), so that they're something 40K flavored.
Since Shadespire will shift model release towards AoS, and November will see Necromunda, my guess is an Eldar codex release with plastic Eldrad (so there's a "new" 40K model late October) on Oct 28th.
   
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I expect Eldar next, in the back half of October and then Tyranids in early November.
   
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am I the only person just sitting here waiting on the Ork codex :(

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Girthquake wrote:
am I the only person just sitting here waiting on the Ork codex :(


It'll be a bit of a wait the chapter approved article all but verified that we won't get one until next year some time.
   
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Girthquake wrote:
am I the only person just sitting here waiting on the Ork codex :(


As above.

Necrons, Dark Eldar and Orks are the books we know will get a "sneak peak" in Chapter Approved and thus almost certainly a bit further away.
   
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Girthquake wrote:
am I the only person just sitting here waiting on the Ork codex :(


You are not.

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GW probably doesn't want to release the Orks since they're the only faction that is conversion-friendly (and hence very hard to control IP wise).

EDIT: Scratch-build friendly, not conversion friendly.

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Kanluwen wrote:
Hell, I'm not that bothered by the Stormraven. Why? Because, as it stands right now, it's "limited use".When it's shoehorned in to the Codex: Space Marines, then yeah. I'll be irked.


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I really hope Eldar. I've recently had an itch to start a Wraith army and a new codex would be amazeballs.

Orks are in the same position as Necrons. They have to change a lot more than other armies in terms of change from the Index. Orks and Necrons both have fundamental issues that need to be addressed. I really feel GW is working hard on those two specifically in order to address the concerns. They really seem to be doing that well with the other codex releases (we'll ignore AdMech transports for the sake of my argument).

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Tyranids. Eldar are a doomed race and should therefore get their codex when the days are shorter.

Really, there's not enough of a pattern to make a real assessment. I would never have guessed Grey Knights and Adeptus Mechanicus would be so early, the only no-brainer was that spess mehreens were first.

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Hoodwink wrote:
I really hope Eldar. I've recently had an itch to start a Wraith army and a new codex would be amazeballs.

Orks are in the same position as Necrons. They have to change a lot more than other armies in terms of change from the Index. Orks and Necrons both have fundamental issues that need to be addressed. I really feel GW is working hard on those two specifically in order to address the concerns. They really seem to be doing that well with the other codex releases (we'll ignore AdMech transports for the sake of my argument).


Noone who plays Admech thought that the Admech codex was going to include transports, because GW don't make or sell any models for it, and we knew there would be no new models for them.

Admech players are waiting for the Fires Of Cyraxis forgeworld book to be released, which is where their transport vehicles will be (as forgeworld already have those models on sale. More profits, yo.)

GW did a pretty good job though, as they gave several options for deepstriking/infiltrating units which helped out where it was needed (particularly priests), so I agree that so far GW have been doing well with the codex releases. Orks and Necrons do need a LOT of work though, basically a complete rewrite. Hopefully they have already come up with some changes, and they will test them out in chapter approved.
   
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Niiru wrote:
Hoodwink wrote:
I really hope Eldar. I've recently had an itch to start a Wraith army and a new codex would be amazeballs.

Orks are in the same position as Necrons. They have to change a lot more than other armies in terms of change from the Index. Orks and Necrons both have fundamental issues that need to be addressed. I really feel GW is working hard on those two specifically in order to address the concerns. They really seem to be doing that well with the other codex releases (we'll ignore AdMech transports for the sake of my argument).


Noone who plays Admech thought that the Admech codex was going to include transports, because GW don't make or sell any models for it, and we knew there would be no new models for them.

Admech players are waiting for the Fires Of Cyraxis forgeworld book to be released, which is where their transport vehicles will be (as forgeworld already have those models on sale. More profits, yo.)

GW did a pretty good job though, as they gave several options for deepstriking/infiltrating units which helped out where it was needed (particularly priests), so I agree that so far GW have been doing well with the codex releases. Orks and Necrons do need a LOT of work though, basically a complete rewrite. Hopefully they have already come up with some changes, and they will test them out in chapter approved.


GW did a pretty decent job with AdMech but there are still VERY glaring issues with the codex. Servitors are practically useless. Breachers have no place where they can be included that someone else can't do their job better and cheaper. Ruststalkers currently have no way of getting into combat without spending CP and infiltrating or deepstriking. The best army compositions are still Kastelans and Onagers with Cawl. Dragoons were put in a surprisingly good spot, but Ballistari are pretty meh for their points. They can't move and shoot without the -1 to hit and don't have the -1 to hit for opponents like Dragoons. Skitaari troops were put in a pretty good spot with their point reduction but still feel a little underwhelming.

All-in-all, the Codex isn't "bad", it just has some real misses that would have really switched up the amount of valid compositions you'd see in competitive play, which is GW's biggest thing right now. GW is trying to switch up the choices so the meta doesn't become stagnant with the same lists, but AdMech really sits at the same basic comp of Cawl, Onagers, and Kastelans with whatever you can scrounge up as an added bonus with your points left. Sure you can run anything else you want, but you won't see anything else at any competitive level of play. Maybe due to the size of the army, you never will but I'd still like to see a few of the units buffed to a level where they are worth taking over others.
   
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Waitaminute wasn't Tau mentioned on that list of codexes that would be released? Or is this just to see which of those two will come out first regardless of when Tau does?

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Kanluwen wrote:
Hell, I'm not that bothered by the Stormraven. Why? Because, as it stands right now, it's "limited use".When it's shoehorned in to the Codex: Space Marines, then yeah. I'll be irked.


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 MechaEmperor7000 wrote:
Waitaminute wasn't Tau mentioned on that list of codexes that would be released? Or is this just to see which of those two will come out first regardless of when Tau does?

They've said that, basically, all possible codices will be released. We just know that Tyranids and Eldar are the next two. They've also said that there will be "around 10 new codexes before Christmas", and Tyranids and Eldar would make 8 (though of course "around" is not exact). Meanwhile the Chapter Approved preview strongly suggested that Orks, Necrons, and Dark Eldar will not be one of those "around 10".
   
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Hoodwink wrote:
Niiru wrote:
Hoodwink wrote:
I really hope Eldar. I've recently had an itch to start a Wraith army and a new codex would be amazeballs.

Orks are in the same position as Necrons. They have to change a lot more than other armies in terms of change from the Index. Orks and Necrons both have fundamental issues that need to be addressed. I really feel GW is working hard on those two specifically in order to address the concerns. They really seem to be doing that well with the other codex releases (we'll ignore AdMech transports for the sake of my argument).


Noone who plays Admech thought that the Admech codex was going to include transports, because GW don't make or sell any models for it, and we knew there would be no new models for them.

Admech players are waiting for the Fires Of Cyraxis forgeworld book to be released, which is where their transport vehicles will be (as forgeworld already have those models on sale. More profits, yo.)

GW did a pretty good job though, as they gave several options for deepstriking/infiltrating units which helped out where it was needed (particularly priests), so I agree that so far GW have been doing well with the codex releases. Orks and Necrons do need a LOT of work though, basically a complete rewrite. Hopefully they have already come up with some changes, and they will test them out in chapter approved.


GW did a pretty decent job with AdMech but there are still VERY glaring issues with the codex. Servitors are practically useless. Breachers have no place where they can be included that someone else can't do their job better and cheaper. Ruststalkers currently have no way of getting into combat without spending CP and infiltrating or deepstriking. The best army compositions are still Kastelans and Onagers with Cawl. Dragoons were put in a surprisingly good spot, but Ballistari are pretty meh for their points. They can't move and shoot without the -1 to hit and don't have the -1 to hit for opponents like Dragoons. Skitaari troops were put in a pretty good spot with their point reduction but still feel a little underwhelming.

All-in-all, the Codex isn't "bad", it just has some real misses that would have really switched up the amount of valid compositions you'd see in competitive play, which is GW's biggest thing right now. GW is trying to switch up the choices so the meta doesn't become stagnant with the same lists, but AdMech really sits at the same basic comp of Cawl, Onagers, and Kastelans with whatever you can scrounge up as an added bonus with your points left. Sure you can run anything else you want, but you won't see anything else at any competitive level of play. Maybe due to the size of the army, you never will but I'd still like to see a few of the units buffed to a level where they are worth taking over others.



You're talking competitive in tournaments though, and it's a sad fact that there will never be a time when all units will be equally competitive. There will always be one or two combinations in each army that are the most competitive options. Same with every game ever made. The trick is to make alternative options at least not too much of a disadvantage.

Breachers and destroyers have been improved a lot, as have skitarii, and ballistarii are a good weapons platform (not as good as on ages, but still good). Servitors are still not great, but they're pretty much just there for fluff reasons anyway. Admech also got a new hq option which filled a huge need in their list building.

Admech can now field a lot more decent lists for casual play, which is what this game is actually designed around. Their core competitive options haven't changed but I'm not sure why you'd think they would, as they rely on a character and specific units which had no changes made.

As a sub faction of the imperium, they're in a pretty good place right now. Better off than a lot of armies.
   
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I figure Eldar have a better chance of having multiple new kits released. Updates to old models.

Nids have a decent chance of a couple kits. Plastic Biovore/pyrovore. Plastic Lictor/deathleaper. But that's about it.

Since nids have so few potential for release their codex will come hot on the tails of IG who had none.

Eldar will get the bigger release next month with a potential multiple new kits replacing old ones over the course of the month.


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I'm betting on Nids, mainly because I think Eldar will get new kits and therefore will be released later.
   
 
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