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2017/10/09 23:01:53
Subject: grav cannon rules
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Fully-charged Electropriest
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The rules for the heavy grav-cannon say that "if the target has a save characteristic of 3+ or better, this weapon has a damage characteristic of D3". So does that mean that if a model has a regular save of 4+ and is in cover giving it a save of 3+ that the shots do D3 damage or just 1?
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2017/10/09 23:18:47
Subject: grav cannon rules
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Scarred Ultramarine Tyrannic War Veteran
Ankh Morpork
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'Save characteristic' refers to what is on the model's profile, so would not be affected by modifiers such as cover.
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2017/10/09 23:19:40
Subject: grav cannon rules
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Lieutenant General
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KingGarland wrote:The rules for the heavy grav-cannon say that "if the target has a save characteristic of 3+ or better, this weapon has a damage characteristic of D3".
So does that mean that if a model has a regular save of 4+ and is in cover giving it a save of 3+ that the shots do D3 damage or just 1?
'Save characteristic' is the unmodified number on the datasheet.
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'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
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2017/10/09 23:23:06
Subject: Re:grav cannon rules
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Swift Swooping Hawk
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Furthermore, cover modifies your save roll by +1, it doesn't modify your actual save. A model with a 4+ save in cover still has a 4+ save, it just counts threes as fours.
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Craftworld Sciatháin 4180 pts |
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2017/10/09 23:24:58
Subject: Re:grav cannon rules
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Scarred Ultramarine Tyrannic War Veteran
Ankh Morpork
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Yeah, if there were an item of Wargear which explicitly modified their Save characteristic then Grav could come into effect, but as Cream Tea notes, cover and things like it are generally modifiers to the roll, not the characteristic.
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2017/10/10 00:07:20
Subject: grav cannon rules
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Fixture of Dakka
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I don't care if if is the Roll that gets modified, or if it is the Characteristic that gets modified... just stop switching between the two!
Damn it Games Workshop, when will you learn how to Rule....
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8th made it so I can no longer sway Tau onto the side of Chaos, but they will eventually turn aside from their idea of the Greater Good to embrace the Greatest of pleasures. |
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2017/10/10 11:45:31
Subject: grav cannon rules
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain
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JinxDragon wrote:I don't care if if is the Roll that gets modified, or if it is the Characteristic that gets modified... just stop switching between the two!
Damn it Games Workshop, when will you learn how to Rule....
They don' unless needed, so you got your wish. Each has its purpose. And grav working off Save characteristic not the effective save stops Scouts in cover having the same mass as a Terminator for grav purposes. They 'ruled' pretty well here I'd say.
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Stormonu wrote:For me, the joy is in putting some good-looking models on the board and playing out a fantasy battle - not arguing over the poorly-made rules of some 3rd party who neither has any power over my play nor will be visiting me (and my opponent) to ensure we are "playing by the rules" |
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2017/10/16 10:20:15
Subject: Re:grav cannon rules
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Stealthy Dark Angels Scout with Shotgun
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Agreed. The rules are generally well written. Its just people trying to find loopholes that break them!
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'What we do in life echos in eternity!'
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