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Let the wild speculation begin.


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Hope its not as much of a rehash as the last but it looks like we are going to get some new toys for each of FFGs games. That Silencer looks really good!

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Okay, the teaser was good and all, but NOW I'm officially pumped! This looks to be a lot better than TFA was, which is nice. Not that I think TFA was bad, per se, just too much the same as ANH for my tastes. Of course, my tastes may be a bit off as I actually like the prequels despite a certain Gungan who shall not be named...

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Not doing it for me.will wait and see how good the reviews are.

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-laugh 6 months ago after the last trailer about the shameless ESB "parallels" present in the footage shown, nerds on Dakka get butthurt and say "y-you can't tell from just a teaser!"

-fast forward and everything was true

Anyway, it's amazing how little they've managed to hype up Luke. I wonder what the 4th quarter ESB twist is gonna be for this film.

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I wonder what the 4th quarter ESB twist is gonna be for this film.

Are you? From this it looks like a totally deceptive 'she's going turn to the Dark Side and take Darth Emo's hand' but it's totally going to be the heel-face turn that redeems him instead. (though not 'til the next movie, because it has to parallel the narrative structure of the original so it has to end on a down note).

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shameless ESB "parallels" present in the footage shown

Hey now, the 'tie-fighters chase the Falcon through the crystal caverns' scene is totally from Return (it's set up almost exactly like the death star interior, with lots of protrusions and nonsense to dodge, but in red rather than grey), not ESB, same with the Republic fleet getting savaged.

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 BlaxicanX wrote:
-laugh 6 months ago after the last trailer about the shameless ESB "parallels" present in the footage shown, nerds on Dakka get butthurt and say "y-you can't tell from just a teaser!"

-fast forward and everything was true

Anyway, it's amazing how little they've managed to hype up Luke. I wonder what the 4th quarter ESB twist is gonna be for this film.


Like now the trailers for TFA clearly showed Finn to be the main hero, wielding Luke's Lightsaber! Or how it was Leia, not Rey, that Maz handed it on to? Etc etc.

Trailers never lie. Honest.

   
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A meh from me.

Captain chrome is back, so that will mean more months of hype for a character that will once again add up to the square root of gak all.

The whole thing looks as though it was put together by another Disney committee.


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Not doing it for me.will wait and see how good the reviews are.


You can't even trust the reviews anymore, at least not in the mainstream media.

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 BlaxicanX wrote:

Anyway, it's amazing how little they've managed to hype up Luke. I wonder what the 4th quarter ESB twist is gonna be for this film.


I think the obvious problem, of course, is that we all expect a "twist". And it is equally obvious that we're supposed to expect it to be related to Rey's parentage.

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I really, really hope the space scene in the trailer is not alluding to how they are going to kill off Leia to get around Carrie Fisher not being around for the third movie.

My only huge gripe was Luke's horrible prosthetic hand. It looked like Transformer tech, with 8 billion tiny moving parts and gears.

I'll watch, hopeful that I'm not going to predict every plot element like in TFA.



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I definitely think there is some misdirection in the editing of the trailer.
It even could be that everything that appears to be going on actually is, but because we've come to be skeptical of it, the editors didn't bother misleading us.

At this point, we have to just enjoy the visuals and not take the speculation too seriously (even though it's fun to do so)

My theories:
-Kylo has been working against Snoke the whole time. Had to kill Han and maybe even Leia to "prove" his allegiance. In Harry Potter terms, he is Snape (even looks like him)
-Luke has discovered some long buried truth about the Jedi that he does not like (this may be the big reveal)
-Rey literally has to bring balance to the force by neither choosing the light nor dark side, but by using both in harmony.
-Snoke is an ancient force entity that drains force users to live forever. He wants to drain Luke, which is why he went into hiding (not because of some guilt or lost hope).

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Really not impressed.

However, I always wondered what a different director would do with the original Star Wars trilogy.

Soon I will know.

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Hmm looks ok - nothing special but ok.

As usual the Lego version will be better....

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Fantastic trailer!

Kylo/Rey team up would be bananas!

   
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Looks decent to me, not seeing what all the nerd-ranting is about. To anyone gaking on TFA and the trailer for TLJ, go back and watch the absolute messes that are episodes 1-3.

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 Retrogamer0001 wrote:
To anyone gaking on TFA and the trailer for TLJ, go back and watch the absolute messes that are episodes 1-3.
Or the gak show that is R1 - a dumb movie that had a sublime trailer.
 Galef wrote:
Snoke is an ancient force entity that drains force users to live forever.
That's pretty good, actually. Segues in nicely to Palpatine's ambitions for immortality plus the new canon factoid of him believing his power flowed from the darkness beyond the Outer Rim (i.e., out where Snoke was hiding).

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Got a few tingles watching it but looks a bit samey/formulaic.
I know SW has always been that way but would like for them to push the boat out somewhat.....

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Looks like they learned some lessons from the first one. I am cautiously optimistic.

   
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 Galef wrote:
Rey literally has to bring balance to the force by neither choosing the light nor dark side, but by using both in harmony.


Things do seem headed this way.

And although I'm sure we'll hear calls of 'ruined childhoods' from certain fans, I think it makes sense. The Jedi and Sith always seemed to be at the extreme, cartoonish ends of the light/dark spectrum. In the real world, it's possible to have emotion and passion alongside selflessness and a level of control. Seems like that should also have been possible a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away...

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 gorgon wrote:
In the real world, it's possible to have emotion and passion alongside selflessness and a level of control.
Well sure, Luke Skywalker did exactly that. But look, this dichotomy between passion and control ... this is prequel garbage. The whole Jedi/Sith thing is EU garbage, no better than needing Decepticons for the Autobots to fight (a.k.a., Pepsi versus Coke). In the OT, Vader was the Dark Lord of the Sith and what that meant was entirely mysterious. Jedi, however, were an on-screen thing. There was no Jedi v. Sith dimension to Star Wars* until Lucas inflicted the Phantom Menace on an unsuspecting (but perhaps not undeserving) public. The real tension at work in the OT was the dogmatic and myopic view of older characters like Obi-Wan and Yoda versus the naive, idealistic outlook of Luke. Luke refused to kill his own father and instead redeemed him.

It's really a shame that we are talking about this "balance of the Force" nonsense. It is just as terrible - and comes from exactly the same place as - midichlorians. Of course, I am also pretty nervous that Rey - like Anakin - will turn out to be a vergence in the Force.

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(Yes, let's ignore the EU for the purposes of this discussion. )

Now that you mention it, it's easy to forget how little we knew of even the Jedi after the original trilogy. TESB established things about their philosophy and ways. But it was in the prequels where our knowledge was filled out, and where the Jedi became more cartoonishly earnest, emotionless, and chaste. I *think* the prequels tried to suggest that the Jedi had lost their way somewhat, but it was undermined by portraying Anakin as a impetulant, whiny brat rather than a regular guy chafing against oppressive, silly rules for legit reasons.

The Sith were almost a completely blank slate. Sure, Vader and Palpatine were bad guys, and the Dark Side was presented as something negative, but I don't think it meant that all the Sith were necessarily mustache-twirling villains.

Perhaps this film is about resetting our understanding, and using some narrative jiu-jitsu to show that the silly stuff we saw about the Jedi and Sith in the prequels represented two organizations that had become extremist and forgetful of important truths. Luke would be the perfect person to navigate this. In fact, it seems almost obvious once you think about it.

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If Rey is an immaculate birth, reincarnation, or some other contrived new "chosen one", I am not going to be happy.
That would put this new trilogy lower than the prequels in my mind.

Rey needs to be Luke's daughter, preferably also Obi-Wan's granddaughter too (see his relationship with Satine from the clone wars, old Ben totally could have had a daughter that grows up to be Luke's wife)
Come to think of it, this could be the AMAZABALLZ reveal for the movie, because it requires a bit of elaboration for movie goers that are not familiar with the (canon) Clone Wars.
It would also explain why Rey is so darn good. She has a distilled force heritage.

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Really hoping Phasma isn't as much of a pushover in this one as she was in the last one. This series ain't going to continue the long tradition of great B villains without some help

   
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I am hyped but. I wonder how many scenes will be in the actual movie.
   
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@Gorgon - solid points, keep in mind we didn't even know Palpatine had anything to do with the Sith until TPM (it didn't seem to be the case in the early Darkhorse comics, such as Dark Empire)

@LoH - well she's about as effective in TFA as Boba Fett is in RotJ

   
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I prefer Rey's parents to be nobodies. That she's just a naturally powerful Force user - and they didn't know how to handle her, so ditched her.

   
 
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