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I know the topic is kind a vague, but mine is that the bolt family of weapons have far less ammo than GW reports. Based on size and the caliber they shoot, I can't see a standard bolt gun having more than 15 rounds, and a bolt pistol maybe half that.

Whats yours.

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My favourite head cannon is that the Primaris Project was actually job of the Emperor, to create better Space Marines, just like he did before with Thunder Warriors. He just stoped it mid-way because the Webway project was more important, and after the Horus Heresy happened and in the Throne isn't like he can end it.
Is lore that Space Marines wheren't the best job the Emperor Could do. Those where Custodes and Primarchs. Space Marines where the best the Emperor could MASS PRODUCE. So it makes sense for him to try to improve the process and make mass produced warriors that are just better.

Roboute Guilliman fount that project, half way done, and he commanded Belisarus to end it.

So the "This Mechanicus Magus IMPROVES the work of the god-emperor himself" changes to "This 10.000 yeard old Mechanicus Magus ended the work the emperor had already half-done"

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Dakka does have White Knights and is also rather infamous for it's Black Knights. A new edition brings out the passionate and not all of them are good at expressing themselves in written form. There have been plenty of hysterical responses from both sides so far. So we descend into pointless bickering with neither side listening to each other. So posting here becomes more masturbation than conversation.

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There are billions of marines. It's the only way the work on a galactic level. The imperium loses 10,000 a day on a good day. 100,000s of thousands on bad days. Because galaxies are big.

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HoundsofDemos wrote:
I know the topic is kind a vague, but mine is that the bolt family of weapons have far less ammo than GW reports. Based on size and the caliber they shoot, I can't see a standard bolt gun having more than 15 rounds, and a bolt pistol maybe half that.

Whats yours.


My minor head canon is that the majority of the Imperium is far more like what Caiphas Cain sees, than what you seen in the other IG novels. Cain's world and military seems like one that would actually work. Other than the weird troop numbers which are almost universally too small.
   
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Martel732 wrote:
There are billions of marines. It's the only way the work on a galactic level. The imperium loses 10,000 a day on a good day. 100,000s of thousands on bad days. Because galaxies are big.


This.

I also apply the same increase in scale to fleet sizes, Eldar population numbers, etc.


   
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On of mine is that the fluff about "every krieg women is pregnat" is a lie to hide the fact that the majority are all Vat grown. And that both men a women serve in the Krieg army, its just impossible to tell because of the gear and the fact that all the "normal" Private is usely 14-16 years old.


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 Galas wrote:
My favourite head cannon is that the Primaris Project was actually job of the Emperor, to create better Space Marines, just like he did before with Thunder Warriors. He just stoped it mid-way because the Webway project was more important, and after the Horus Heresy happened and in the Throne isn't like he can end it.
Is lore that Space Marines wheren't the best job the Emperor Could do. Those where Custodes and Primarchs. Space Marines where the best the Emperor could MASS PRODUCE. So it makes sense for him to try to improve the process and make mass produced warriors that are just better.

Roboute Guilliman fount that project, half way done, and he commanded Belisarus to end it.

So the "This Mechanicus Magus IMPROVES the work of the god-emperor himself" changes to "This 10.000 yeard old Mechanicus Magus ended the work the emperor had already half-done"


They should have went with this to begin with, the whole primaris thing is just straight up heresy if you ask me. Way too much innovation going on in the imperium with 8th edition. I can't stop GW from crapping on their own setting though.

 
   
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 Thargrim wrote:
 Galas wrote:
My favourite head cannon is that the Primaris Project was actually job of the Emperor, to create better Space Marines, just like he did before with Thunder Warriors. He just stoped it mid-way because the Webway project was more important, and after the Horus Heresy happened and in the Throne isn't like he can end it.
Is lore that Space Marines wheren't the best job the Emperor Could do. Those where Custodes and Primarchs. Space Marines where the best the Emperor could MASS PRODUCE. So it makes sense for him to try to improve the process and make mass produced warriors that are just better.

Roboute Guilliman fount that project, half way done, and he commanded Belisarus to end it.

So the "This Mechanicus Magus IMPROVES the work of the god-emperor himself" changes to "This 10.000 yeard old Mechanicus Magus ended the work the emperor had already half-done"


They should have went with this to begin with, the whole primaris thing is just straight up heresy if you ask me. Way too much innovation going on in the imperium with 8th edition. I can't stop GW from crapping on their own setting though.

If this is the case, then we shouldn't have anything new in the since first edition then.
   
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Truthfull;y there s some evidance the Primaris Marines MAY have been essentially designed by the emperor. apparently the big key to their development has been some dohickey that stored more intact copies of the Primarchs gene sequencing (which is the root of space marines) and all the new organs where designed by the emperor (eaither stuff froim the custodes or the primarchs themselves) Cawl just implanted this stuff onto Space Marines. So Primaris Marines in that scope are less innovations and more "upgrade of a classic frame with some new toys"

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 Galas wrote:
My favourite head cannon is that the Primaris Project was actually job of the Emperor, to create better Space Marines, just like he did before with Thunder Warriors. He just stoped it mid-way because the Webway project was more important, and after the Horus Heresy happened and in the Throne isn't like he can end it.
Is lore that Space Marines wheren't the best job the Emperor Could do. Those where Custodes and Primarchs. Space Marines where the best the Emperor could MASS PRODUCE. So it makes sense for him to try to improve the process and make mass produced warriors that are just better.

Roboute Guilliman fount that project, half way done, and he commanded Belisarus to end it.

So the "This Mechanicus Magus IMPROVES the work of the god-emperor himself" changes to "This 10.000 yeard old Mechanicus Magus ended the work the emperor had already half-done"


I like that.

My fan theory about NuMarines is that they are merely slightly tweaked Thunder Warriors. NuMarines are bigger and stronger than regular modern Marines... just like Thunder Warriors.

Basically, Cawl only made slight adjustments, most of them going towards making them more stable but even that took 10,000 years... and who's to say the process was perfect? I'm half expecting the first known incident where one of these newly fangled Glitter Boys snap and flip out. Any day now...

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My favorite headcannon (which is due to the ambiguous wording on GW's part) is that there are actually a lot more Sisters than a lot of people suspect. In my head, each world's primary Ecclesiarchal presence is guarded by at least a squad, if not a whole convent of Sisters. The Orders Minoris are primarily defensive in nature, working with local defenders in order to protect the sanctity of Imperial worlds from the heretic, the xeno, and the daemon, thus allowing the Orders Majoris to join in on crusades and major combats en masse and retake that which was lost.

The official fluff only describes the number of Sisters in each of the Orders Majoris, but gives no limit to the numbers of minor orders, and no overall numbers for Sisters. I reckon there's at least as many Sisters as there are Stormtroopers and Commissars combined; possibly putting them in the billions.

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The sisters are often raised in the schola progenium along with Commissars and storm troopers, so they should have roughly even numbers...if we assume that the ST's and commissars skew overwhelmingly male. I don't really like that assumption, but on the other hand I would expect an organization as important and prestigious as the Ministorum to recruit from multiple avenues, so the numbers of Sisters are likely to be much higher than the SP could produce, anyway.

Reasonable estimates put the number of IG in the Imperium at a few quadrillion, or hundreds of trillions at least. IG are the cream of the human military, the top percent of the PDF if I recall. If there is one sister for every thousand guardsmen, or for every 100,000 PDF soldiers, then there would be hundreds of billions of Sisters in the Imperium. They may not all be in the orders militant, but that is still a lot of women under arms.

   
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Nitpick: a cannon is a projectile weapon, either artillery or at least big enough that it's no longer "just" a machine gun. Canon in the context of fiction is the "official" version of something.

My personal favorite is that the Tyranids are on their last legs, too inefficient and stupid to survive in a galaxy with intelligent life. Biotech is a nice scifi trope but woefully unsuited to interstellar conquest when the opposition has real tech. Especially seeing as living ships (and the crews) would be dead ships in an instant just from the radiation out there.
   
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That the Black Templars have numbers very far beyond what the Codex Astartes dictates due to a) an extremely stable gene-seed that isn’t being hoarded carefully but actually used, b) a complete disregard for the Codex Astartes, and c) that they’ve spawned numerous successor chapters.

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I can’t take credit for this one, but it’s my favorite of all time:
“Orks have a powerful collective psychic consciousness, so strong that if enough of them merely believe something it will happen; their red vehicles go faster and seemingly impossible weapons work. They enjoy war above all else, and it is the common, unifying trait among all Orks. It’s estimated that Orks may be one of, if not the most numerous species in the galaxy.
And thus in the grim darkness of the far future, there is only war”.

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 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
Martel732 wrote:
There are billions of marines. It's the only way the work on a galactic level. The imperium loses 10,000 a day on a good day. 100,000s of thousands on bad days. Because galaxies are big.


This.

I also apply the same increase in scale to fleet sizes, Eldar population numbers, etc.



Yes, yes, of course. It's not just a marine thing. But they are the most egregious offenders.
   
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 gnome_idea_what wrote:
That the Black Templars have numbers very far beyond what the Codex Astartes dictates due to a) an extremely stable gene-seed that isn’t being hoarded carefully but actually used, b) a complete disregard for the Codex Astartes, and c) that they’ve spawned numerous successor chapters.


This isn't head canon, is actually true. Black Templars have various Crusader Fleet at the same time, with all of them having thousands of marines.

 Crimson Devil wrote:

Dakka does have White Knights and is also rather infamous for it's Black Knights. A new edition brings out the passionate and not all of them are good at expressing themselves in written form. There have been plenty of hysterical responses from both sides so far. So we descend into pointless bickering with neither side listening to each other. So posting here becomes more masturbation than conversation.

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Forcing a 40k player to keep playing 7th is basically a hate crime.

 
   
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 Galas wrote:
 gnome_idea_what wrote:
That the Black Templars have numbers very far beyond what the Codex Astartes dictates due to a) an extremely stable gene-seed that isn’t being hoarded carefully but actually used, b) a complete disregard for the Codex Astartes, and c) that they’ve spawned numerous successor chapters.


This isn't head canon, is actually true. Black Templars have various Crusader Fleet at the same time, with all of them having thousands of marines.

Yes, but the numbers have gone from “hundreds of thousands” to “a few hundred over” from edition to edition.

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So you're saying Black Templars have tens of billions instead of billions. Got it.
   
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Martel732 wrote:
 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
Martel732 wrote:
There are billions of marines. It's the only way the work on a galactic level. The imperium loses 10,000 a day on a good day. 100,000s of thousands on bad days. Because galaxies are big.


This.

I also apply the same increase in scale to fleet sizes, Eldar population numbers, etc.



Yes, yes, of course. It's not just a marine thing. But they are the most egregious offenders.


I was agreeing with you. One million space marines spread through a whole galaxy might as well not even exist. One per Imperial planet.

   
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If Eldar are using advanced hydroponics and living spaces like an arcology, they can squeeze billions and billions onto craft worlds. That's not a "dying race". They just need water (abundant) and organic molecule sources (abundant).
   
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Because vehicles can assault now and that models with the Fly rule can target flyers in assault, it is now my headcanon that, at some point, a monolith bodyslammed an aircraft out of the sky.

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Hell, I'm not that bothered by the Stormraven. Why? Because, as it stands right now, it's "limited use".When it's shoehorned in to the Codex: Space Marines, then yeah. I'll be irked.


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 MechaEmperor7000 wrote:
Because vehicles can assault now and that models with the Fly rule can target flyers in assault, it is now my headcanon that, at some point, a monolith bodyslammed an aircraft out of the sky.


Sure, why not? A Drukhari skimmer assaulted by primaris lieutenant, and he killed it. So, in my head, he gave it a Zangief SPD.
   
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The Salamanders have 9 companies: The veteran Firedrakes (aka First Company), 4 battle companies, 3 reserve companies and the Scout company. That's it.

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 MechaEmperor7000 wrote:
Because vehicles can assault now and that models with the Fly rule can target flyers in assault, it is now my headcanon that, at some point, a monolith bodyslammed an aircraft out of the sky.

Certainly possible. Monoliths move surprisingly fast and have a lot of mass behind them, and aircraft in 40k tend towards pathetic rather that impressive given technology in the universe, so all it takes in an incompetent pilot not taking evasive maneuvers and a Cryptek with an extremely creative mind, and WHAM! Bodyslammed by a Monolith.

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Between "extra" Great Companies out sailing the sea of stars and "conservative" reporting of those Companies residetn in the Fang, the Space Wolves are basically still operating at Legion strength.

The Primaris marines are based on the same approach as Corax used with the Raptors (before the Alpha Legion contaminated the new geneseed).

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Spetulhu wrote:
Nitpick: a cannon is a projectile weapon, either artillery or at least big enough that it's no longer "just" a machine gun. Canon in the context of fiction is the "official" version of something.

My personal favorite is that the Tyranids are on their last legs, too inefficient and stupid to survive in a galaxy with intelligent life. Biotech is a nice scifi trope but woefully unsuited to interstellar conquest when the opposition has real tech. Especially seeing as living ships (and the crews) would be dead ships in an instant just from the radiation out there.


Youre awfully unimaginative..

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 greyknight12 wrote:
I can’t take credit for this one, but it’s my favorite of all time:
“Orks have a powerful collective psychic consciousness, so strong that if enough of them merely believe something it will happen; their red vehicles go faster and seemingly impossible weapons work. They enjoy war above all else, and it is the common, unifying trait among all Orks. It’s estimated that Orks may be one of, if not the most numerous species in the galaxy.
And thus in the grim darkness of the far future, there is only war”.


Head canon is gak you make up. The above is actual canon. That's totally how orks work.

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Perhaps not technically a Marine Chapter anymore, but the Flame Falcons would be pretty creepy to fight.

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My favourite headcanon is that sergeants without helmets have forcefields to protect thier heads and attract sniper bullets.

Makes perfect sense but AFAIK has never been taken up by an official source.

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Ork headcanon. What orks believe is true. Orks believe commisar Yarrick is invincible, as strong as an ork and kill wiht his sight alone therefore commisar Yarrick is invincible, as strong as an ork using a powerklaw and has an eyeppatch that kills.

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