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So as the title says, I bought the Sector Imperialis gameboard and I’m having some issues. I wanted gauge the situation by getting feedback from other people who bought this product. I’m curious if others have experienced the same things.

Here are my issues:

1. The three T section tiles are covered in oil. I suspect that this is mold release, but there’s a ton of it all over these tiles. They look like they’ve been gloss coated. I can barely handle them they’re so heavily coated in oil. The straight sections are fine.
2. The T sections aren’t 24”x24”. They’re actually 24”x23-7/8”.
3. I didn’t get any clips to hold the table together.
4. All of the tiles are warped. Now, this wouldn’t be an issue if I would have gotten some clips to hold things together. I have clips from my original RoBG, but they don’t work with the Sector Imperialis tiles.
5. The clip slots on the T sections are shallow, but the material is too thin for the original RoBG clips to grab and hold them. The clip slots in the straight sections are so deep that the original RoBG clips aren’t tall enough to even touch the plastic.
6. Because of 2 through 5 I cannot use the Sector Imperialis tiles with my original RoBG.

Has anyone else had these issues with the Sector Imperialis gameboard or is it just my luck that I would get a bad one?

   
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We'll find out soon enough eh.

Sounds like a shonky one to me. No idea why it would even have mold release on it in the first place, and I'd be demanding a replacement based on warpage alone - this isn't like a bent spear pole or slightly twisted FW component, literally the one thing a game board absolutely has to be is bloody flat.

Just a shame you're in the US or I'd have bought a couple of the dodgy tiles off you if you did get a replacement sent out(I just want to cut them up for other purposes).

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Talk to GW, get a replacement sent out.

Can more or less guarantee they'll ask for pics at most, and just send the new one at their expense.

   
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Yeah agree with the other poster. This doesn't sound like something that should happen, get on the phone to them.

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Warping + no clips is an automatic return and replacement for me.
As mentioned this isnt a bent sword or missing backpack. Its your primary gaming table $$$.

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I contacted GW. They wanted some pictures per standard operating procedure. I had to email them, so far no response.

I was told...
1. They no longer provide the Nylon carrying case. Yup, the tiles just come in a box now.
2. They no longer supply the clips. It was suggested that I purchase and use large paper clips to hold the tiles together (i.e. the clamp style ones).

Needless to say, I'm not happy, not one iota. We'll see where this goes.
   
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 oni wrote:
I contacted GW. They wanted some pictures per standard operating procedure. I had to email them, so far no response.

I was told...
1. They no longer provide the Nylon carrying case. Yup, the tiles just come in a box now.
2. They no longer supply the clips. It was suggested that I purchase and use large paper clips to hold the tiles together (i.e. the clamp style ones).

Needless to say, I'm not happy, not one iota. We'll see where this goes.

That's crazy oni. Was interested to see after your experience and yeah, there is nothing mentioning the bag or clips online anymore.

"The Citadel Realm of Battle Gameboard is supplied in a cardboard outer with reinforced card corners to keep the board secure during transport." Knew it came in the box now, but guess that counts as the "bag" from transport. Yikes.

The Sector Mechanicus board has even less of a description. That's baffling. Had my eye on getting one of those eventually, but quite less attractive now! Old board off ebay or bust!

I know when I finally got the board from Games & Gears, it was a bit oily, but did not have that problem with my GW RoB.

Warping and that off size are no gos though. Let me know if GW doesn't make you return that and you wanna get rid. I like Yodhrin would like to chop them up if you have no use for them.

Best of luck in getting that sorted.

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Surprised about the clips

though the small binder clip would work just fine. the clips are a pain anyway

you could get creative with some magnets or bolts.

but the warping.... it takes a day or two for them to respond most of the time.

it shouldnt be that big an issue

you could always try and heat gun or leave it out in the sun on a super flat surface.

or more than likely once you get a fresh set from gw, cut up the old one and make terrain.

 Unit1126PLL wrote:
 Scott-S6 wrote:
And yet another thread is hijacked for Unit to ask for the same advice, receive the same answers and make the same excuses.

Oh my god I'm becoming martel.
Send help!

 
   
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With the warping, I would demand a replacement. Especially since they were covered in oil/grease. Plastic doesn't have a release agent. That could instead be a symptom of a poor quality plastic pellets or poor mixing if they were using resins.

Where did you buy the board from? It might be worth just returning it to that vendor.
   
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The board is Games Workshop’s Sector Imperialis. I purchased direct from GW’s website.

It’s all very upsetting. I’m going to have to call them again tomorrow as they still haven’t gotten back to me.
   
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 oni wrote:
I contacted GW. They wanted some pictures per standard operating procedure. I had to email them, so far no response.

I was told...
1. They no longer provide the Nylon carrying case. Yup, the tiles just come in a box now.
2. They no longer supply the clips. It was suggested that I purchase and use large paper clips to hold the tiles together (i.e. the clamp style ones).

Needless to say, I'm not happy, not one iota. We'll see where this goes.


Keep in mind that you're likely dealing with someone in the UK. You appear to be in the US. If you send an email in the early afternoon, they've probably already gone home for the day and won't see your email until tomorrow. At that point, expect a day or two for a response. That means that if you send an email at 1pm on Thursday, you might not get a response until Monday.

Also, it doesn't appear that the product description says that it includes a bag or clips. I'm not sure why you thought you were going to get them. You should absolutely be upset about the warping. In terms of the bag and clips, you may just have had an incorrect expectation. No mention of bag or clips in the product description...

"The Realm of Battle: Sector Imperialis gaming board is a high quality, plastic, modular gaming surface for Warhammer 40,000. Made from the same plastic as your Citadel miniatures, each of the six 2’ x 2’ tile sections can be painted in exactly the same way as the rest of your miniature collection.

There are two tile designs in the set, three of each, which are inspired by the war torn streets of an Imperial city. They can be arranged in any number of different ways to produce an almost endless variety of combinations, with streets large enough to accommodate a Baneblade (see image gallery above).

Pictures for illustrative purposes only. Miniatures not included. Product is sold unpainted and unassembled."



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 oni wrote:
The board is Games Workshop’s Sector Imperialis. I purchased direct from GW’s website.

It’s all very upsetting. I’m going to have to call them again tomorrow as they still haven’t gotten back to me.


I would advice patience. You're not likely to see any outcome over the weekend. If you haven't heard anything by now, you probably won't hear anything until Monday.

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I can certainly understand being upset, especially with warping or dirt. But some of the other stuff, you're not going to win on. I have the Sector Imperialis and Sigmar Shattered Dominion boards. Neither of them ever came with clips. Only the original Realm of Battle set did, so I think you are out of luck on that.

And on the case, too. The Sector Imperialis did once come in a nylon bag; I have that. You're not missing much. It is pretty flimsy and cheesy, and the decent cardboard box is probably at least as good, if it is similar to the one my Sigmar Shattered Dominion came in. There may be old stock out there in stores or places like eBay, but new manufacture boards of all three styles only come in cardboard now (the Sigmar one never came any other way).

Give them a few days to respond, and keep us updated.
   
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So I spoke to GW again today.

On a quick side note, US customers talk to the customer service office in Memphis, TN.

Anyway, they hadn’t gotten back to me because they’re swamped with customer service issues.

Initially I was told that I would have to wait for them to get to my email and that this would take several days. Of course this was entirely unacceptable and I made it known. The customer service rep. then searched out my specific email to attend to the matter. I would have thought this would be standard operating procedures for someone who calls, not try to blow them off.

So with zero comments, zero explanation from GW’s side a new gameboard is being sent to me.

Fingers crossed that the new one is the “high quality” and “finely crafted” product they claim it to be.
   
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For what it's worth, this is the first time I've heard of a problem like this. Not trying to say it's not a real issue, but that it's unlikely that it happened, so it'll be even more unlikely to happen to the same person twice in a row.

If you can clean the contamination off, you could always saw up the original boards to use for bases for scenery or large models.
   
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Best of luck! I played one game on the local GW stores tiles and that was enough for me to swear them off entirely. Glad they got you sorted out though!
   
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 oni wrote:
So I spoke to GW again today.

On a quick side note, US customers talk to the customer service office in Memphis, TN.

Anyway, they hadn’t gotten back to me because they’re swamped with customer service issues.

Initially I was told that I would have to wait for them to get to my email and that this would take several days. Of course this was entirely unacceptable and I made it known. The customer service rep. then searched out my specific email to attend to the matter. I would have thought this would be standard operating procedures for someone who calls, not try to blow them off.

So with zero comments, zero explanation from GW’s side a new gameboard is being sent to me.

Fingers crossed that the new one is the “high quality” and “finely crafted” product they claim it to be.


It sounds like you're getting a new game board for free without having to send back the old one, and all you had to do was send an email and make a followup phone call 2-3 business days after the initial complaint was made? That's pretty solid customer service. I'm not sure what your end game is here. Did you want an explanation of what went wrong, or did you want a new board? Keep your eyes on the prize, my friend. You got what you wanted in a very reasonable time frame.

I'm guessing that you've never worked in customer service? I don't now, but I have in the past and you're coming off as the sort of entitled, "HELP ME NOW" sort that customer service reps love to hate. Realistically speaking, you're an adult who is getting worked up because you have to wait a bit before playing with some new toys. I would counsel perspective, my friend.

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 Kriswall wrote:


It sounds like you're getting a new game board for free without having to send back the old one, and all you had to do was send an email and make a followup phone call 2-3 business days after the initial complaint was made? That's pretty solid customer service. I'm not sure what your end game is here. Did you want an explanation of what went wrong, or did you want a new board? Keep your eyes on the prize, my friend. You got what you wanted in a very reasonable time frame.

I'm guessing that you've never worked in customer service? I don't now, but I have in the past and you're coming off as the sort of entitled, "HELP ME NOW" sort that customer service reps love to hate. Realistically speaking, you're an adult who is getting worked up because you have to wait a bit before playing with some new toys. I would counsel perspective, my friend.


I would have to second this. You've come out of this with a effectively a couple hundred dollars of free gaming material. Chances are you could try to straighten the shonky tiles and either keep as a spare or sell on.

I would not be moaning

 
   
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 Kriswall wrote:
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 oni wrote:
So I spoke to GW again today.

On a quick side note, US customers talk to the customer service office in Memphis, TN.

Anyway, they hadn’t gotten back to me because they’re swamped with customer service issues.

Initially I was told that I would have to wait for them to get to my email and that this would take several days. Of course this was entirely unacceptable and I made it known. The customer service rep. then searched out my specific email to attend to the matter. I would have thought this would be standard operating procedures for someone who calls, not try to blow them off.

So with zero comments, zero explanation from GW’s side a new gameboard is being sent to me.

Fingers crossed that the new one is the “high quality” and “finely crafted” product they claim it to be.


It sounds like you're getting a new game board for free without having to send back the old one, and all you had to do was send an email and make a followup phone call 2-3 business days after the initial complaint was made? That's pretty solid customer service. I'm not sure what your end game is here. Did you want an explanation of what went wrong, or did you want a new board? Keep your eyes on the prize, my friend. You got what you wanted in a very reasonable time frame.


Why does it have to be an either or thing? If Oni wanted an explanation but didn't receive one from GW, that is frustrating for Oni, especially after a $300+ purchase. Part of resolving customer issues is listening to customers, and resolving the issue. Part of Oni's issue is he laid out good money for a shoddy product. Receiving a replacement on a defective item is the bare minimum GW legally has to do to make the situation right. Assuring Oni that this was a fluke is the customer service aspect of the rep's job. From Oni's perspective it looks like the CS rep failed there.

 Kriswall wrote:
I'm guessing that you've never worked in customer service? I don't now, but I have in the past and you're coming off as the sort of entitled, "HELP ME NOW" sort that customer service reps love to hate. Realistically speaking, you're an adult who is getting worked up because you have to wait a bit before playing with some new toys. I would counsel perspective, my friend.
The condescension is dripping here. Lovely. Another perspective is someone paid hundreds of dollars for luxury items and received junk in return. They are entitled to be unhappy and gripe. As of right now Oni's issue is still not resolved and won't be until the new board is received and confirmed to be flaw free.
   
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Everything about GW's history suggests that they will make him whole. I'm sure he had a frustrating day or two, and it's not great that he had to escalate things a bit, but GW has about as sterling a track record for standing by their product as any company I've ever dealt with.

Kriswall was over the top, but so were some of the complaints.
   
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 Polonius wrote:
Everything about GW's history suggests that they will make him whole. I'm sure he had a frustrating day or two, and it's not great that he had to escalate things a bit, but GW has about as sterling a track record for standing by their product as any company I've ever dealt with.

Kriswall was over the top, but so were some of the complaints.


I agree, Oni will be made whole.

Still, a guy dropped a bunch of money on an expensive product and got junk in return. Anyone in that situation has the right to be angry and vent. Oni simply made the mistake of doing it here. Shame on you Oni.
   
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 DarkTraveler777 wrote:
 Polonius wrote:
Everything about GW's history suggests that they will make him whole. I'm sure he had a frustrating day or two, and it's not great that he had to escalate things a bit, but GW has about as sterling a track record for standing by their product as any company I've ever dealt with.

Kriswall was over the top, but so were some of the complaints.


I agree, Oni will be made whole.

Still, a guy dropped a bunch of money on an expensive product and got junk in return. Anyone in that situation has the right to be angry and vent. Oni simply made the mistake of doing it here. Shame on you Oni.


No they don't. That's juvenile. They have the right to have their complaint heard and corrected in a sensible time frame. If you get messed about then, and only then, is it possibly worth losing your temper over, and only in the face of outright incompetence or deception. Neither of which appears to be the case here.

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 Azreal13 wrote:
 DarkTraveler777 wrote:
 Polonius wrote:
Everything about GW's history suggests that they will make him whole. I'm sure he had a frustrating day or two, and it's not great that he had to escalate things a bit, but GW has about as sterling a track record for standing by their product as any company I've ever dealt with.

Kriswall was over the top, but so were some of the complaints.


I agree, Oni will be made whole.

Still, a guy dropped a bunch of money on an expensive product and got junk in return. Anyone in that situation has the right to be angry and vent. Oni simply made the mistake of doing it here. Shame on you Oni.


No they don't. That's juvenile. They have the right to have their complaint heard and corrected in a sensible time frame. If you get messed about then, and only then, is it possibly worth losing your temper over, and only in the face of outright incompetence or deception. Neither of which appears to be the case here.


Wait. You are suggesting that someone who spent the amount a GW Realm* of Battle board costs, and instead received a greasy, warped mess of a set isn't entitled to be angry? You are hilarious!

You do you and police people's emotions. Good luck!


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Yes, that's exactly what I'm suggesting. Getting angry because you've bought a faulty product that's going to be replaced with little effort is simply immature and a waste of energy.

Irritated or a little disappointed, maybe, but there are far more things in life worth getting angry about than that. I'm not policing anyone's emotions, what I'm saying is if that's the sort of thing that makes you angry then you're not very emotionally mature.

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 Azreal13 wrote:
Yes, that's exactly what I'm suggesting. Getting angry because you've bought a faulty product that's going to be replaced with little effort is simply immature and a waste of energy.

Irritated or a little disappointed, maybe, but there are far more things in life worth getting angry about than that. I'm not policing anyone's emotions, what I'm saying is if that's the sort of thing that makes you angry then you're not very emotionally mature.


So, in other words, "behave like I want you to behave or else I'll fling passive aggressive jabs at you over the internet."

Who isn't emotionally mature?
   
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No, "behave how you want to behave, just don't be surprised if your behavior causes people to shake their heads when you act like a petulant child."

But enoughs enough, the irony is getting too strong and this is off topic.

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 DarkTraveler777 wrote:
 Polonius wrote:
Everything about GW's history suggests that they will make him whole. I'm sure he had a frustrating day or two, and it's not great that he had to escalate things a bit, but GW has about as sterling a track record for standing by their product as any company I've ever dealt with.

Kriswall was over the top, but so were some of the complaints.


I agree, Oni will be made whole.

Still, a guy dropped a bunch of money on an expensive product and got junk in return. Anyone in that situation has the right to be angry and vent. Oni simply made the mistake of doing it here. Shame on you Oni.


Any defect I have ever noted GW is eager to replace. I can't complain, and that says a lot.
   
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 Azreal13 wrote:
No, "behave how you want to behave, just don't be surprised if your behavior causes people to shake their heads when you act like a petulant child."

But enoughs enough, the irony is getting too strong and this is off topic.


I'll leave this tangent with this: You cannot dictate how people will react emotionally to a problem, which is something you seem to be pushing with your previous posts. Thinking that your viewpoint and approach to the world is the only valid one, and that others should modify their behavior to suit your rigid standards is childish.

Stating that someone shouldn't get angry over a problem that you do not share is the height of arrogance. It is their problem, not yours. You don't get to determine how they react.

   
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 oni wrote:
So as the title says, I bought the Sector Imperialis gameboard and I’m having some issues. I wanted gauge the situation by getting feedback from other people who bought this product. I’m curious if others have experienced the same things.

Here are my issues:

1. The three T section tiles are covered in oil. I suspect that this is mold release, but there’s a ton of it all over these tiles. They look like they’ve been gloss coated. I can barely handle them they’re so heavily coated in oil. The straight sections are fine.
2. The T sections aren’t 24”x24”. They’re actually 24”x23-7/8”.
3. I didn’t get any clips to hold the table together.
4. All of the tiles are warped. Now, this wouldn’t be an issue if I would have gotten some clips to hold things together. I have clips from my original RoBG, but they don’t work with the Sector Imperialis tiles.
5. The clip slots on the T sections are shallow, but the material is too thin for the original RoBG clips to grab and hold them. The clip slots in the straight sections are so deep that the original RoBG clips aren’t tall enough to even touch the plastic.
6. Because of 2 through 5 I cannot use the Sector Imperialis tiles with my original RoBG.

Has anyone else had these issues with the Sector Imperialis gameboard or is it just my luck that I would get a bad one?




To fix this issue.

1. Wash the boards with hot soapy water, and dry them with a hot/ warm blowdryer. This will help in getting both the oil off, and in warming up the plastics to flatten them out. ( Watch the heat/ heatgun) You can easily warp it worse. Use the hot air to warm up the plastic, then flatten the warp.
Here for reference- https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/what-is-the-best-way-to-fix-a-warped-plastic

2. The boards themselves are not exactly 24X 24, so you are going to have to use some imagination for this one. I would recommend cutting styro insulation board ( The Pink kind) and spacing out gaps within the city in the form of giant earthquake cracks in the ground. ( Of course I might be a little more advanced then you, but in using your jigsaw to cut the Imperialis boards to fit to the gap on the styro, I would recommend to use some of that canned foam insulation for the gaps, then cut it after it dries. ( Here is the styro for reference- https://www.menards.com/main/building-materials/insulation/insulation-panels/expanded-polystyrene-foam-insulation-2-x-4-x-8-r-8/p-1444435971902.htm )
* for this styro job, people use either the 2" foam sheets, or double over 1-1/2" sheets, and use a foam cutter to shape the foam crevices. Some people use these sheets, then get the last couple and cut them down, but it all depends on your table/ space. I have not seen too many people who want to use it portable/ take it apart every time you play, basically because of the clips.

3. The Clips... o.o I recommend using wooden plugs to attach the boards, or use them to glue the boards together. If you base the boards, you won't need the clips. By and By- those clips are crap. ( Just FYI) you will break at least 3 on day 1.

4-6. o.o These boards are base boards to fit over your table, or base on the styro earthquakes. You have the boards, and use them also for a space for a river in between as well, adding in a couple of luscious bridge systems to carry over the rancid/ acid river of sludge.. ( which you can make out of mixing clear resin/ model parts, and paint and ink and mix them together. 1/2-1 inch cover on the river area is fine.)
CAUTION- do not mix the resin with your styro. It will melt the styro.

I noticed the rest of your conversation, and honestly MY idea is your best bet. Plan out the board, cut scrap, and develop your wasted landscape, and you can even use these boards in different slightly higher and lower levels, based on the earthquake. Additionally, in the bottoms, you can also add in some ruinous piping, additional lower level ruins, etc, to make it that much more mysterious.

I understand your frustration, and in my own hindsight, I had some of the same issues back when these first started popping up, and we had to have serious discussions in the game store on these. They are FRIGILE! the clips break on a consistent basis, and the little clip holes are meh, as well.


Good luck in your endeavors. With a well thought out project you can have yourself a memorable 4 X 8' board.

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 DarkTraveler777 wrote:
 Azreal13 wrote:
No, "behave how you want to behave, just don't be surprised if your behavior causes people to shake their heads when you act like a petulant child."

But enoughs enough, the irony is getting too strong and this is off topic.


I'll leave this tangent with this: You cannot dictate how people will react emotionally to a problem, which is something you seem to be pushing with your previous posts. Thinking that your viewpoint and approach to the world is the only valid one, and that others should modify their behavior to suit your rigid standards is childish.

Stating that someone shouldn't get angry over a problem that you do not share is the height of arrogance. It is their problem, not yours. You don't get to determine how they react.



You don't get to determine how they react, but when they post said reaction in a public forum, you are absolutely allowed to point out that you feel they are being unreasonable. Not every reaction is valid or healthy. Reacting with anger to an easily resolved quality control issue probably isn't the healthiest reaction out there.

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 DarkTraveler777 wrote:
 Azreal13 wrote:
No, "behave how you want to behave, just don't be surprised if your behavior causes people to shake their heads when you act like a petulant child."

But enoughs enough, the irony is getting too strong and this is off topic.


I'll leave this tangent with this: You cannot dictate how people will react emotionally to a problem, which is something you seem to be pushing with your previous posts. Thinking that your viewpoint and approach to the world is the only valid one, and that others should modify their behavior to suit your rigid standards is childish.

Stating that someone shouldn't get angry over a problem that you do not share is the height of arrogance. It is their problem, not yours. You don't get to determine how they react.



Yes nobody can dictate but you cannot be surprised if you are met with pity if you act like petulant child.

In the end he got better off here than he would have been otherwise. He _benefitted_ from this.

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