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the relic:

"CADIAN model only. The bearer can unveil this relic at the start of any turn. Until the end of the turn, you can re-roll hit and wound rolls of 1 for all CADIAN units within 12" of the bearer. You can instead re-roll all failed hit and wound rolls for these units until the end of the turn if they are targeting a CHAOS unit."

so my question is. Is this a one time use relic only or do i unveil it as many times as i like ? can i also Unveil it during my opponents turn to use during Overwatch ? There doesnt seem to be a restriction on how many times or when i can use it.

I run Cadian and want to make sure i am using it correctly. As is i have been using it as many times as i want however only in my turn. Against non CHAOS units its basically OK.. however againt CHAOS armies it is very powerful.. so it makes me wonder if i am using it correctly.

thx

 
   
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Norn Queen






 zedsdead wrote:


the relic:

"CADIAN model only. The bearer can unveil this relic at the start of any turn. Until the end of the turn, you can re-roll hit and wound rolls of 1 for all CADIAN units within 12" of the bearer. You can instead re-roll all failed hit and wound rolls for these units until the end of the turn if they are targeting a CHAOS unit."

so my question is. Is this a one time use relic only or do i unveil it as many times as i like ? can i also Unveil it during my opponents turn to use during Overwatch ? There doesnt seem to be a restriction on how many times or when i can use it.

I run Cadian and want to make sure i am using it correctly. As is i have been using it as many times as i want however only in my turn. Against non CHAOS units its basically OK.. however againt CHAOS armies it is very powerful.. so it makes me wonder if i am using it correctly.

thx
RaW you can use it an infinite amount of times, at the beginning of both your own and your opponents turn. There is no indication that you cannot unveil it multiple times. If there is any intention beyond what the rules say, they need to issue an errata or special snowflake FAQ. Until then feel free to unveil it every turn.

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Longtime Dakkanaut




So, you won't be able to use it for overwatch, as you have to use it at the start of any turn only. (unless of course you use it at the start of your opponents turn on the anticipation of getting charged)

As for how many times you can use it... Personally, i'd say the intention is that it is a "one use only relic", but, if this is not stated anywhere, then RAW technically it can be used every turn until otherwise FAQd.

An example of a one use only relic, is the Iyandan relic, the Psytronome of Iyanden. This states the "once per battle" restriction.

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thx Kdash... is there anything to stop me from just Unveiling it at the beginning of my opponents turn as well as my own ? in anticipation of overwatch ?

and thx for the example

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Norn Queen






 zedsdead wrote:
thx Kdash... is there anything to stop me from just Unveiling it at the beginning of my opponents turn as well as my own ? in anticipation of overwatch ?

and thx for the example
Nothing stopping you, other than an opponent getting upset at you for following the rules.
   
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 BaconCatBug wrote:
 zedsdead wrote:
thx Kdash... is there anything to stop me from just Unveiling it at the beginning of my opponents turn as well as my own ? in anticipation of overwatch ?

and thx for the example
Nothing stopping you, other than an opponent getting upset at you for following the rules.


yea.. i think in friendlies i would avoid it.. actually only unveil once.. but in a tournament i guess its game on

 
   
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Experienced Maneater






As it says "any turn", nothing stopping you from activating it at the start of your opponent's turn.
It also has infinite activations.

Why it isn't a permanent buff then, is anyones guess. But it can't be concluded that therefore it is only "One use".
AoS had a similiar worded item and most player's decided it is intented for "One use", because it was just too strong otherwise.
A FAQ came around after months, adressing the item - and it was "infinite uses".

Write GW about this, and in the meantime, show it to your opponent before the game too clear up any confusion how you intend to use it, along with your reasoning why and the lack of a FAQ.

   
 
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