Russian Nuclear Incident?

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**BaronIveagh**

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-42064192

Ok, this sounds a bit odd, since measurements of radioactive isotopes over 1000 times higher than normal do not spring up out of the ground. Usually.

**jhe90**

1000 times is not normal.

That's not a spike in radon or some more natural event.

**tneva82**

Probably some leak in waste process or something. Not nuclear reactor failure due to lack of OTHER radioactive stuff so that's good at least.

**djones520**

And of course, total denial of any mishap. Can't break from the Russian Response Playbook at all.

**Inquisitor Gideon**

Another one?

**AlmightyWalrus**

djones520 wrote:
And of course, total denial of any mishap. Can't break from the Russian Response Playbook at all.

It could be Kazakhstan, to be fair.

**Grey Templar**

''Guri! How many times I must tell you? Heavy water not for bathing!"

**jhe90**

AlmightyWalrus wrote:
djones520 wrote:
And of course, total denial of any mishap. Can't break from the Russian Response Playbook at all.

It could be Kazakhstan, to be fair.

Same playboy?

**oldravenman3025**

BaronIveagh wrote:http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-42064192

Ok, this sounds a bit odd, since measurements of radioactive isotopes over 1000 times higher than normal do not spring up out of the ground. Usually.

jhe90 wrote:1000 times is not normal.

That's not a spike in radon or some more natural event.

Yeah, that's a bit fishy.

But that part of the world has a track record for serious nuclear accidents and just plain carelessness. Chernobyl and Kyshtym are the most famous. But there have been others, such as Lake Karachay, Techa River, Kramatorsk, and Andreev Bay.

To be fair, all of those were Soviet era events, when the Russians weren't concerned about little things like safety, reliability, or pollution. If this current spike is from a major accident, it could be the first major nuclear accident in the post Soviet era.

**John Prins**

Probably an older storage unit went up in flames. Some heavy duty butt-covering in progress.

**Iron_Captain**

Nothing happened. There was no nuclear reactor, there was no accident and there most certainly isn't any kind of military experiment. Also, there are no clean-up crews at work there. All the activity at the site can be explained by the fact that it suddenly became a very popular destination for state-sponsored holidays. Very nice nature over there in the Urals you see? Now move along comrades.

It is funny though they called a place this far from sea 'mayak', which means 'lighthouse'. At least I guess it is glowing like one now

**oldravenman3025**

Iron_Captain wrote:
Nothing happened. There was no nuclear reactor, there was no accident and there most certainly isn't any kind of military experiment. Also, there are no clean-up crews at work there. All the activity at the site can be explained by the fact that it suddenly became a very popular destination for state-sponsored holidays. Very nice nature over there in the Urals you see? Now move along comrades.

It is funny though they called a place this far from sea 'mayak', which means 'lighthouse'. At least I guess it is glowing like one now

Kek. My sides..............

**Orlanth**

Ruthenium has a short half life, so whatever happened it was recent.

It does also mean that unless other elements are found this is not major problem.

Also a thousand time normal levels sounds a lot, but probably isn't as normal levels are minute.

**sebster**

I love how the Russian story went from there being no radiation, to admitting there was a lot of radiation but insisting it had nothing to do with the nuclear facility the radiation is right next to.

**Howard A Treesong**

Standard way with them, denial followed by suspect explanations, next they’ll blame some western plot or terrorism.

**Matthew**

Damn, same thing as Chernobyl with the russians covering it up? Hope it's not too bad

**Dreadwinter**

Iron_Captain wrote:
Nothing happened. There was no nuclear reactor, there was no accident and there most certainly isn't any kind of military experiment. Also, there are no clean-up crews at work there. All the activity at the site can be explained by the fact that it suddenly became a very popular destination for state-sponsored holidays. Very nice nature over there in the Urals you see? Now move along comrades.

It is funny though they called a place this far from sea 'mayak', which means 'lighthouse'. At least I guess it is glowing like one now

Planetary Lighthouse, you can see that gak from space now!

**Skinnereal**

Since the Falklands appears to be the opposite side of the world to that location, we might want to warn them.

**BigWaaagh**

Okay, so using reactor cooling pool to deep fry Thanksgiving turkey maybe not such a good idea.

**Frazzled**

IN PUTIN'S RUSSIA THE TURKEY NUKES YOU!

**Steve steveson**

sebster wrote:
I love how the Russian story went from there being no radiation, to admitting there was a lot of radiation but insisting it had nothing to do with the nuclear facility the radiation is right next to.

Standard Russian PR MO.
1) Deny anything happened
2) Agree said thing did happen was nothing to do with them
3) Admit you were involved, but it was totally innocent and any negative connotations are western media bias/politically driven. Ask Russia Today and their totally independent news
4) Wait for irrefutable, overwhelming evidence then do something to distract the media away from the story and complain how everyone hates Russia.

**Iron_Captain**

Steve steveson wrote:
sebster wrote:
I love how the Russian story went from there being no radiation, to admitting there was a lot of radiation but insisting it had nothing to do with the nuclear facility the radiation is right next to.

Standard Russian PR MO.
1) Deny anything happened
2) Agree said thing did happen was nothing to do with them
3) Admit you were involved, but it was totally innocent and any negative connotations are western media bias/politically driven. Ask Russia Today and their totally independent news
4) Wait for irrefutable, overwhelming evidence then do something to distract the media away from the story and complain how everyone hates Russia.

That is not true. Well, maybe in the past, but not anymore today. And even if we deny things, what is the big deal? The West and its so called allies do it all the time as well, but you never hear stories in the media about that! Bias much? Why not just report on something positive? Like the upcoming football world championship hosted by Russia? But no, of course you will never hear a positive story about Russia in the russophobic Western media... hypocrites.

**feeder**

Iron_Captain wrote:
Steve steveson wrote:
sebster wrote:
I love how the Russian story went from there being no radiation, to admitting there was a lot of radiation but insisting it had nothing to do with the nuclear facility the radiation is right next to.

Standard Russian PR MO.
1) Deny anything happened
2) Agree said thing did happen was nothing to do with them
3) Admit you were involved, but it was totally innocent and any negative connotations are western media bias/politically driven. Ask Russia Today and their totally independent news
4) Wait for irrefutable, overwhelming evidence then do something to distract the media away from the story and complain how everyone hates Russia.

That is not true. Well, maybe in the past, but not anymore today. And even if we deny things, what is the big deal? The West and its so called allies do it all the time as well, but you never hear stories in the media about that! Bias much? Why not just report on something positive? Like the upcoming football world championship hosted by Russia? But no, of course you will never hear a positive story about Russia in the russophobic Western media... hypocrites.

Looks like we are on step 3, comrades

**oldravenman3025**

Iron_Captain wrote:
Steve steveson wrote:
sebster wrote:
I love how the Russian story went from there being no radiation, to admitting there was a lot of radiation but insisting it had nothing to do with the nuclear facility the radiation is right next to.

Standard Russian PR MO.
1) Deny anything happened
2) Agree said thing did happen was nothing to do with them
3) Admit you were involved, but it was totally innocent and any negative connotations are western media bias/politically driven. Ask Russia Today and their totally independent news
4) Wait for irrefutable, overwhelming evidence then do something to distract the media away from the story and complain how everyone hates Russia.

That is not true. Well, maybe in the past, but not anymore today. And even if we deny things, what is the big deal? The West and its so called allies do it all the time as well, but you never hear stories in the media about that! Bias much? Why not just report on something positive? Like the upcoming football world championship hosted by Russia? But no, of course you will never hear a positive story about Russia in the russophobic Western media... hypocrites.

They're just desperate for the bad ol' days when Russia was "THE EBBIL EMPIRE".

Personally, as a serviceman, I was glad to the end of the Cold War. That meant that I didn't have to fights hordes of Soviet T-72s, T-64s, and T-80s, at three to one odds, on an irradiated German battlefield.

**AlmightyWalrus**

Iron_Captain wrote:
Steve steveson wrote:
sebster wrote:
I love how the Russian story went from there being no radiation, to admitting there was a lot of radiation but insisting it had nothing to do with the nuclear facility the radiation is right next to.

Standard Russian PR MO.
1) Deny anything happened
2) Agree said thing did happen was nothing to do with them
3) Admit you were involved, but it was totally innocent and any negative connotations are western media bias/politically driven. Ask Russia Today and their totally independent news
4) Wait for irrefutable, overwhelming evidence then do something to distract the media away from the story and complain how everyone hates Russia.

That is not true. Well, maybe in the past, but not anymore today. And even if we deny things, what is the big deal? The West and its so called allies do it all the time as well, but you never hear stories in the media about that! Bias much? Why not just report on something positive? Like the upcoming football world championship hosted by Russia? But no, of course you will never hear a positive story about Russia in the russophobic Western media... hypocrites.

You need to refresh your routine, you're getting far too predictable.

**KTG17**

Iron_Captain wrote:
Steve steveson wrote:
sebster wrote:
I love how the Russian story went from there being no radiation, to admitting there was a lot of radiation but insisting it had nothing to do with the nuclear facility the radiation is right next to.

Standard Russian PR MO.
1) Deny anything happened
2) Agree said thing did happen was nothing to do with them
3) Admit you were involved, but it was totally innocent and any negative connotations are western media bias/politically driven. Ask Russia Today and their totally independent news
4) Wait for irrefutable, overwhelming evidence then do something to distract the media away from the story and complain how everyone hates Russia.

That is not true. Well, maybe in the past, but not anymore today. And even if we deny things, what is the big deal? The West and its so called allies do it all the time as well, but you never hear stories in the media about that! Bias much? Why not just report on something positive? Like the upcoming football world championship hosted by Russia? But no, of course you will never hear a positive story about Russia in the russophobic Western media... hypocrites.

Oh please.... Russia spreads some radiation, denies it did so, and we're supposed to feel guilty pointing the finger at them? Oh my bad, yeah lets forget momentarily about the possible side effects of the radiation and focus on soccer.

"Not anymore today". Are you actually on planet earth with the rest of us?

**BaronIveagh**

Iron_Captain wrote:

That is not true. Well, maybe in the past, but not anymore today. And even if we deny things, what is the big deal? The West and its so called allies do it all the time as well, but you never hear stories in the media about that! Bias much? Why not just report on something positive? Like the upcoming football world championship hosted by Russia? But no, of course you will never hear a positive story about Russia in the russophobic Western media... hypocrites.

*read in Boris Badenov voice*

Of course our athletes are superior, look how green and bulky they get when they read findings of international anti-doping agency! Is perfectly normal for Russian woman to have bicep bigger than moose and squirrel!

**Ouze**

feeder wrote:
Iron_Captain wrote:
Steve steveson wrote:
sebster wrote:
I love how the Russian story went from there being no radiation, to admitting there was a lot of radiation but insisting it had nothing to do with the nuclear facility the radiation is right next to.

Standard Russian PR MO.
1) Deny anything happened
2) Agree said thing did happen was nothing to do with them
3) Admit you were involved, but it was totally innocent and any negative connotations are western media bias/politically driven. Ask Russia Today and their totally independent news
4) Wait for irrefutable, overwhelming evidence then do something to distract the media away from the story and complain how everyone hates Russia.

That is not true. Well, maybe in the past, but not anymore today. And even if we deny things, what is the big deal? The West and its so called allies do it all the time as well, but you never hear stories in the media about that! Bias much? Why not just report on something positive? Like the upcoming football world championship hosted by Russia? But no, of course you will never hear a positive story about Russia in the russophobic Western media... hypocrites.

Looks like we are on step 3, comrades

I think he actually managed to hit 3 and 4 in the same post.

**feeder**

Ouze wrote:
feeder wrote:
Iron_Captain wrote:
Steve steveson wrote:
sebster wrote:
I love how the Russian story went from there being no radiation, to admitting there was a lot of radiation but insisting it had nothing to do with the nuclear facility the radiation is right next to.

Standard Russian PR MO.
1) Deny anything happened
2) Agree said thing did happen was nothing to do with them
3) Admit you were involved, but it was totally innocent and any negative connotations are western media bias/politically driven. Ask Russia Today and their totally independent news
4) Wait for irrefutable, overwhelming evidence then do something to distract the media away from the story and complain how everyone hates Russia.

That is not true. Well, maybe in the past, but not anymore today. And even if we deny things, what is the big deal? The West and its so called allies do it all the time as well, but you never hear stories in the media about that! Bias much? Why not just report on something positive? Like the upcoming football world championship hosted by Russia? But no, of course you will never hear a positive story about Russia in the russophobic Western media... hypocrites.

Looks like we are on step 3, comrades

I think he actually managed to hit 3 and 4 in the same post.

True, he's like the Tsar Bomba of posting rebuttals

**Iron_Captain**

AlmightyWalrus wrote:
Iron_Captain wrote:
Steve steveson wrote:
sebster wrote:
I love how the Russian story went from there being no radiation, to admitting there was a lot of radiation but insisting it had nothing to do with the nuclear facility the radiation is right next to.

Standard Russian PR MO.
1) Deny anything happened
2) Agree said thing did happen was nothing to do with them
3) Admit you were involved, but it was totally innocent and any negative connotations are western media bias/politically driven. Ask Russia Today and their totally independent news
4) Wait for irrefutable, overwhelming evidence then do something to distract the media away from the story and complain how everyone hates Russia.

That is not true. Well, maybe in the past, but not anymore today. And even if we deny things, what is the big deal? The West and its so called allies do it all the time as well, but you never hear stories in the media about that! Bias much? Why not just report on something positive? Like the upcoming football world championship hosted by Russia? But no, of course you will never hear a positive story about Russia in the russophobic Western media... hypocrites.

You need to refresh your routine, you're getting far too predictable.

Ah, but that is the plan you see? Trick the liberasts into thinking you are predictable only to then suddenly deviate from that routine when it really matters, gaining the element of surprise. It is a simple application of maskirovka. Always make sure to build up multiple layers of deception. The denial is a deception, but the deception is itself a deception on a higher level, if you get what I mean.

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KTG17 wrote:
Iron_Captain wrote:
Steve steveson wrote:
sebster wrote:
I love how the Russian story went from there being no radiation, to admitting there was a lot of radiation but insisting it had nothing to do with the nuclear facility the radiation is right next to.

Standard Russian PR MO.
1) Deny anything happened
2) Agree said thing did happen was nothing to do with them
3) Admit you were involved, but it was totally innocent and any negative connotations are western media bias/politically driven. Ask Russia Today and their totally independent news
4) Wait for irrefutable, overwhelming evidence then do something to distract the media away from the story and complain how everyone hates Russia.

That is not true. Well, maybe in the past, but not anymore today. And even if we deny things, what is the big deal? The West and its so called allies do it all the time as well, but you never hear stories in the media about that! Bias much? Why not just report on something positive? Like the upcoming football world championship hosted by Russia? But no, of course you will never hear a positive story about Russia in the russophobic Western media... hypocrites.

Oh please.... Russia spreads some radiation, denies it did so, and we're supposed to feel guilty pointing the finger at them? Oh my bad, yeah lets forget momentarily about the possible side effects of the radiation and focus on soccer.

"Not anymore today". Are you actually on planet earth with the rest of us?

Was my really obvious joke so convincing you can't tell it is a joke?