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Hey guys, new user here. Been checking this awesome forum for a while and decided to make a post!

Anyhow, quick intro and idea what I’m looking for help on: I used to play 40k back in 5th, I’m more of a modeler and painter than I am a super competitive player. With that said, I’d like some input about my list that I’ve been working on for the past week. I wanted a thematic army that has cool, unique models, a list that doesn’t have 70+ models and one that is fun to play. Conversely, I don’t want to get absolutely slain if I take my army to a gaming club.

I need to trim the fat a bit, and get your opinions on better load outs for my teams. Here’s the list, I’ve cleaned it up for the post.



Raven Guard 2032pts

Battalion Detachment +3CP / Spearhead +1CP

HQ

Kayvaan Shrike [8 PL, 150pts]
Captain [6 PL, 100pts]:** Chainsword, Jump Pack, Bolt pistol, Teeth of Terra
Chaplain [6 PL, 97pts]:** Jump Pack, Bolt pistol, Raven's Fury

Troops

Tactical Squad [5 PL, 90pts] 5 x marines, Boltguns, Missile Launcher
Tactical Squad [5 PL, 90pts] 5 x marines, Boltguns, Missile Launcher
Tactical Squad [5 PL, 90pts] 5 x marines, Boltguns, Missile Launcher

Elites

Vanguard Veteran Squad [16 PL, 300pts]:** 10x Vets, Jump Pack, 2x Lightning Claws per vet

Vanguard Veteran Squad [16 PL, 196pts]:Jump Pack
Space Marine Veteran: Chainsword, Storm shield
Space Marine Veteran: Chainsword, Storm shield
Space Marine Veteran: Chainsword, Storm shield
Space Marine Veteran: Chainsword, Plasma pistol
Space Marine Veteran: Chainsword, Plasma pistol
Space Marine Veteran: Chainsword, Plasma pistol
Space Marine Veteran: 2x Chainsword
Veteran Sergeant: Bolt pistol, Thunder hammer

Heavy Support

Contemptor Mortis Dreadnought [9 PL, 206pts]** 2x Twin Las-cannon
Relic Leviathan Dreadnought [16 PL, 309pts]:** 2x Heavy flamer, 2x Storm cannon array
Relic Leviathan Dreadnought [16 PL, 309pts]:** 2x Heavy flamer, 2x Storm cannon array

Whirlwind (109pts)


Alright! So were 32 points too heavy. I realize that this is a pretty low model count, but I think it should be fun to play. We have decent shooting in the dreads, as well as decent anti-tank. Decent objective holders with a bit of teeth as well as the melee teams with HQs. Shrike to go with the claw vets and the Cap/Chap with the other vets. Originally I had thought to gear the second vanguard team with plasma pistols and shields, but I’m thinking just plain dual chainswords would be better, and would allow me to bring it up to 10 man.

Few things I’m unsure on:

Tac vs Scouts

How to gear the HQ’s for the second Vanguard team

How to gear the second Vanguard team

Whirlwind ? I need to pay the relic tax with something

Could this small army work?

Thanks a bunch for taking the time to review my list, any comments and any criticism welcomed.

If you're just taking the Tac marines for the missile launcher and troop slot, i'd prob drift over to just using scouts instead. A little cheaper so will give you 30 points right there.

The thunderhammer is nice, but, the rest of the unit doesnt really want to be fighting units the thunderhammer wants to. So, i'd prob drop it and swap the weapons to fit the rest of the unit.

A lot of people like the Whirlwinds right now, but i'm personally not sure how much you'll actually get out of it - that said though, there isn't much else available for the points and slot. A Quad Launcher carrier from FW might do the trick though, and would save you some extra points.

Thanks for the reply my friend.

I do not see "quad launcher" in the FW index. Is there another name for it ?

I agree with you wholeheartedly about the second vanguard team. What do you suggest for a load out for them? And how should I kit out the HQ's for them?

Scouts: I'll take your word for it, should I kit them bare ? Or just add a ML to them?

Thanks again!

Revised list,


Battalion Detachment +3CP / Spearhead +1CP

+ HQ +

Captain [6 PL, 105pts]: Jump Pack, 2x Lightning Claw, Raven's Fury
Chaplain [6 PL, 90pts]: Bolt pistol, Jump Pack, The Armour Indomitus
Kayvaan Shrike [8 PL, 150pts]

+ Troops +

Scout Squad [6 PL, 80pts]
. Scout Sergeant: Boltgun, Chainsword
. 3x Scout w/Boltgun
. Scout w/Heavy Weapon: Missile launcher

Scout Squad [6 PL, 80pts]
. Scout Sergeant: Boltgun, Chainsword
. 3x Scout w/Boltgun
. Scout w/Heavy Weapon: Missile launcher

Scout Squad [6 PL, 80pts]
. Scout Sergeant: Boltgun, Chainsword
. 3x Scout w/Boltgun
. Scout w/Heavy Weapon: Missile launcher

+ Elites +

Vanguard Veteran Squad [16 PL, 300pts]:Jump Pack
. Space Marine Veteran: 2x Lightning Claw
. Space Marine Veteran: 2x Lightning Claw
. Space Marine Veteran: 2x Lightning Claw
. Space Marine Veteran: 2x Lightning Claw
. Space Marine Veteran: 2x Lightning Claw
. Space Marine Veteran: 2x Lightning Claw
. Space Marine Veteran: 2x Lightning Claw
. Space Marine Veteran: 2x Lightning Claw
. Space Marine Veteran: 2x Lightning Claw
. Veteran Sergeant: 2x Lightning Claw

Vanguard Veteran Squad [16 PL, 206pts]:Jump Pack
. Space Marine Veteran: Chainsword, Storm shield
. Space Marine Veteran: Chainsword, Storm shield
. Space Marine Veteran: 2x Chainsword
. Space Marine Veteran: 2x Chainsword
. Space Marine Veteran: 2x Chainsword
. Space Marine Veteran: 2x Chainsword
. Space Marine Veteran: 2x Chainsword
. Space Marine Veteran: 2x Chainsword
. Space Marine Veteran: 2x Chainsword
. Veteran Sergeant: Bolt pistol, Thunder hammer

+ Heavy Support +

Contemptor Mortis Dreadnought [9 PL, 206pts]
. Two twin lascannons: 2x Twin lascannon

Rapier Carrier [4 PL, 85pts]: 2x Space Marine Gunner
. Rapier Carrier: Quad launcher

Relic Leviathan Dreadnought [16 PL, 309pts]:2x Heavy flamer, 2x Storm cannon array

Relic Leviathan Dreadnought [16 PL, 309pts]: 2x Heavy flamer, 2x Storm cannon array

2000pts on the mark!

Any additional comments? Tips how to play this ?

Thanks !

Hi. I’m a heavy user of Ravenguard. When you are running the vanguard vets, it would be better to 7 LC with 3 SS+Chainsword guys. The 3 SS vets will protect the 7 LC vets from the heavy AP weapons in my experience. The 7 Plasma vets with axe or chainsword will be killer of alone character. Shrike should DS with Plasma(reroll plasma hit roll).
And I think you need more dakka. Inceptors are very good with Plasm and Shirke.