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I know this has been brought up a million times, but I can't seem to find the actual source of where the ork gods entered the warp and fought khorne and nurgle. Can anyone point out where these stories are physically from? Thanks.

They have always been in the warp. They are warp gods themselves and incredibly powerful ones at that. Their fluff insert will be found in ork codices. They are described as shrugging off the attacks of the chaos gods with a raucous laugh. However, it appears they aren't concerned with them and fight each other quite a bit instead. No doubt a reflection of orks fighting over which is which. The 4 chaos gods just have to put up the occasional times when they body slam and German suplex their way across their territory and clean up after. "Mom! Put away the China! The boys are at it again!"

I like the mental image of Nurgle turning his back for a minute and then finding Gork and Mork cannonballing into his cauldron with flagrant disregard.

Just after the source for that material. But yes, the thought of mork/gork cannon balling into Nurgles cauldron is pretty funny.

 Ketara wrote:
I like the mental image of Nurgle turning his back for a minute and then finding Gork and Mork cannonballing into his cauldron with flagrant disregard.

That reminds me of my friends English bulldog, once he gets goon you better get outta the way

 mjl7atlas wrote:
I know this has been brought up a million times, but I can't seem to find the actual source of where the ork gods entered the warp and fought khorne and nurgle. Can anyone point out where these stories are physically from? Thanks.

They didn't 'enter the warp,' Gork and Mork are gods. But if you want the earliest source for Gork and Mork fighting the chaos gods, that would be 'Waargh the Orks!' way back in 1990. It actually proposed the opposite, though- Gargants are idols prepared so they can have 'bodies' in the physical realm to crash about in.

But for a specific example, the book presents Widely Known Ork Myths. 'The Hunt' goes like this:

Gork and Mork go looking for a gigantic Squiggly beat and find it at the bottom of a huge cesspit. Also at the bottom of the cesspit is Nurgle, who has eaten all the Snotlings. Gork and Mork clobber Nurgle so hard that he spews up all the Snotlings who are still alive. Nurgle shrinks and becomes a Squiggly beast. The Snotlings then turn the Squig into a feat for Gork and Mork. This myth clearly represents the Ork triumph over Nurgle. The Orks have no fear of the realms of Nurgle, and happily thrive on Squiggly beasts that breed in their cesspits.

Anyway the relationship of orks and chaos is largely presented as orks don't care. Lacking the angst and tendency to overthink problems, chaos has nothing in particular to offer them.

Voss wrote:

 mjl7atlas wrote:
I know this has been brought up a million times, but I can't seem to find the actual source of where the ork gods entered the warp and fought khorne and nurgle. Can anyone point out where these stories are physically from? Thanks.

They didn't 'enter the warp,' Gork and Mork are gods. But if you want the earliest source for Gork and Mork fighting the chaos gods, that would be 'Waargh the Orks!' way back in 1990. It actually proposed the opposite, though- Gargants are idols prepared so they can have 'bodies' in the physical realm to crash about in.

But for a specific example, the book presents Widely Known Ork Myths. 'The Hunt' goes like this:

Gork and Mork go looking for a gigantic Squiggly beat and find it at the bottom of a huge cesspit. Also at the bottom of the cesspit is Nurgle, who has eaten all the Snotlings. Gork and Mork clobber Nurgle so hard that he spews up all the Snotlings who are still alive. Nurgle shrinks and becomes a Squiggly beast. The Snotlings then turn the Squig into a feat for Gork and Mork. This myth clearly represents the Ork triumph over Nurgle. The Orks have no fear of the realms of Nurgle, and happily thrive on Squiggly beasts that breed in their cesspits.

Anyway the relationship of orks and chaos is largely presented as orks don't care. Lacking the angst and tendency to overthink problems, chaos has nothing in particular to offer them.

That fits with general Orks. What can you offer them?

There thr one race who are content with there lot and rough, brutal etc. It's the life Orks want!

Voss wrote:
Anyway the relationship of orks and chaos is largely presented as orks don't care. Lacking the angst and tendency to overthink problems, chaos has nothing in particular to offer them.

Yup. Whatever the chaos gods have to offer the Orks already have, or know a perfectly orky way of getting. No sense involving some poncey stuck-up foreign god in a good straightforward orkish plan.

And while orks have feelings they probably don't react to things like, say, eldar or humans. A human being fed power and knowledge by a warp god will be devastated when it's taken away, ready to do anything to get it back. An ork will just shrug, say "easy come, easy go" and continue on his merry way. And if the warp entity makes a show of it, demanding favors or threatening to expose the deal, the ork is likely to try killing it rather than begging or reasoning. Just too little value in corrupting orks when the galaxy is full of easily mislead humans.

Id recommend buying the older codices just for lore and cool things to look at. I have a few sitting around and they not only come in handy when building anything Ork but are full of background

Correct me if I am wrong, but I believe there have been chaos orks in the past - though I can't recall if they were fantasy or 40K

 Overread wrote:
Correct me if I am wrong, but I believe there have been chaos orks in the past - though I can't recall if they were fantasy or 40K

They were in 40k, but in rouge trader or a slightly later addition.

Just adding to this because I always thought it was a cool. I don't recall where I read it, but from what I remember, the reason Gork/Mork are so powerful is because they do not create lesser demons like the other chaos gods. Basically, every daemon is an extension of their god; a part of their power that has been dispersed into another form. because of this, g/mork have retained all of their power and as individual entities, are stronger than the primary chaos gods (not accounting for their total power with all of their minions).

just a cool tidbit.

Hehheh, yeah. Gork and Mork don't even care about these so called chaos "gods". Any encounter would probably go like the one between the Hulk and Loki in the first Avengers-movie. One thing people seem to forget is that the chaos "gods" aren't invincible. They do have their limits, even if they don't like to admit it.

 Overread wrote:
Correct me if I am wrong, but I believe there have been chaos orks in the past - though I can't recall if they were fantasy or 40K

Yep - there are two different types

Orks can be infected by physical mutations or stuff like Nurgle's rot and hence physical corrupted same as every other race. You can get possessed Orks - usually wierdboyz but neither the Ork OR the Daemon enjoys the experience.

A few Orks also turn to Chaos for various reasons - its rare but it happens - the most notorious IRC was Khornes Stormboyz - but there were others, sometimes Ork Genestealer Cults would turn to Chaos to try and survive but it seldom works.

 john27 wrote:

 Overread wrote:
Correct me if I am wrong, but I believe there have been chaos orks in the past - though I can't recall if they were fantasy or 40K

They were in 40k, but in rouge trader or a slightly later addition.

3rd edition Daemonhunters codex had them as well.

 Mr Morden wrote:

 Overread wrote:
Correct me if I am wrong, but I believe there have been chaos orks in the past - though I can't recall if they were fantasy or 40K

Yep - there are two different types

Orks can be infected by physical mutations or stuff like Nurgle's rot and hence physical corrupted same as every other race. You can get possessed Orks - usually wierdboyz but neither the Ork OR the Daemon enjoys the experience.

A few Orks also turn to Chaos for various reasons - its rare but it happens - the most notorious IRC was Khornes Stormboyz - but there were others, sometimes Ork Genestealer Cults would turn to Chaos to try and survive but it seldom works.

"...neither the ork OR the daemon enjoys the experience " LMAO imagining the disgruntled daemon as the wierdboy continues to pulse out random psychic powers.