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If a Dark Reapers unit eliminates the Ravener unit that emerges before the rest of a Jormungandr force does (and those raveners are the only tunnelers in the army) does the rest of the force die?

Drager wrote:
If a Dark Reapers unit eliminates the Ravener unit that emerges before the rest of a Jormungandr force does (and those raveners are the only tunnelers in the army) does the rest of the force die?

Edit: Do you mean using the Stratagem "The Enemy Below"? If so, then you don't have a chance to kill the Ravener before he gets a chance to deploy the other unit set up with them.

If you mean if he deploys all his Raveners, Mawlocs, Trygon or a Trygon Prime without setting up the unit he placed in the tunnels with the stratagem does the unit die, it will die at the end of the 3rd turn because it doesn't have a way to arrive as reinforcements.

Edit: I see, Forwarned is the name of an Acopywritei stratagem. In any case, sequencing will come into play because you now have 3 things happening at the same time, so since it will presumably be the Tyranid players turn (since that's the only time a Ravener can come up in the movement phase to deploy), they get to pick the order things happen, so the answer is still no.

Got my books with me now. Text of both relevant stratagems:

Forewarned2 wrote:Use this strategem immediately after your opponent sets up a unit that is arriving on the battlefield as reinforcements within sight of one of your <Craftworld> units that is itself within 6" of a friendly <Craftworld> Farseer.

The Enemy Below wrote:Use this Stratagem when you set up a JORMUNGANDR INFANTRY unit during deployment. It is set up within tunnels bored before the battle. Whenever you set up a unit of Raveneres, a Mawlock, Trygon or a Trygon Prime at the end of your movement phase (a burrowing unit) you can also set up any number of units set up within the tunnels. Set up the unit wholly within 3" of the burrowing unit and more than 9" from any enemy units. Any models you cannot set up in this way when you do so are destroyed.

So would the Eldar not be able to fire until after all the units are placed?

Drager wrote:
Got my books with me now. Text of both relevant stratagems:

Forewarned2 wrote:Use this strategem immediately after your opponent sets up a unit that is arriving on the battlefield as reinforcements within sight of one of your <Craftworld> units that is itself within 6" of a friendly <Craftworld> Farseer.

The Enemy Below wrote:Use this Stratagem when you set up a JORMUNGANDR INFANTRY unit during deployment. It is set up within tunnels bored before the battle. Whenever you set up a unit of Raveneres, a Mawlock, Trygon or a Trygon Prime at the end of your movement phase (a burrowing unit) you can also set up any number of units set up within the tunnels. Set up the unit wholly within 3" of the burrowing unit and more than 9" from any enemy units. Any models you cannot set up in this way when you do so are destroyed.

So would the Eldar not be able to fire until after all the units are placed?

Due to sequencing, that's correct.

Great. Thanks both.

Drager wrote:
Got my books with me now. Text of both relevant stratagems:

Forewarned2 wrote:Use this strategem immediately after your opponent sets up a unit that is arriving on the battlefield as reinforcements within sight of one of your <Craftworld> units that is itself within 6" of a friendly <Craftworld> Farseer.

The Enemy Below wrote:Use this Stratagem when you set up a JORMUNGANDR INFANTRY unit during deployment. It is set up within tunnels bored before the battle. Whenever you set up a unit of Raveneres, a Mawlock, Trygon or a Trygon Prime at the end of your movement phase (a burrowing unit) you can also set up any number of units set up within the tunnels. Set up the unit wholly within 3" of the burrowing unit and more than 9" from any enemy units. Any models you cannot set up in this way when you do so are destroyed.

So would the Eldar not be able to fire until after all the units are placed?

The sequence goes like this:

Tyranid player drops the Ravener, which immediately allows him to set up the infantry unit too.
The Eldar player then announces he wants to use his stratagem, causing a 2nd thing to happen at the same time.

Even if the Eldar player could and does declare "inbetween" those two things, they are all actually happening at the same point in time, and since it's the Nid players turn, they decide what order they happen in. There is no (realistic, no-one is going to allow the Eldar player to shoot first) scenario where the Eldar player could kill the Ravener before the player gets to set up the other unit within 3" of it.

Yes, I understood that from your first answer, thanks.