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Looks very good, I'm in (though to be fair, all it takes for me to be in on a JP film is a few bars of the theme... )

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Ok so Dinosaurs and Volcanic eruptions just makes me ask one question. WHY has it taken this long for the JP series to put these two themes together?!

Story seems "so so" and does raise the question of why they are pitching a huge expedition to save these dinosaurs when, in theory, they've go the technology to restore them. One can only assume that the original DNA samples collected for the original creations are starting to run out (which is to say limited samples lost in several major disasters). So I'd be down with that line of thinking as to why they have to save these dinosaurs and relocate them and not just let them be killed off and breed up some more.

That said its a very different direction to what I thought they were going to go in after the end of the last film (I was getting ready for Trex riding soliders with tank guns; or Mission Impossible Raptors).

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I must say I'm glad they're not going the military route the last film hinted at, that would just be throwing out the JP identity for a quick cash grab.

As for the rescue mission, given that the existence of the dinos is now public knowledge, perhaps they're considered to be endangered species by various official bodies rather than just 'products' or something created in a lab. That would explain why they're mounting a mission to get them to safety to preserve them.

 
   
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The hint in the trailer suggests it could go either way. Either an official international mission of rescue or a "rag tag" group manages to get hold of some of the old gear laying around and rush in to do their own rescue (paid for by some unseen super rich company/benefactor)

Heck they might even be getting military money (we don't want to work with them but we have to save them - to save Blue - and T-Rex!)

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One thing I'm really enjoying hearing about this is apparently about 75-80% of the Dinosaur work is animatronics over cg. So that should look good on screen.
   
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I would hope after the number of films they've made that they are amounting quite the collection of animatronic devices and dinosaurs. Although Hollywood being what it is, it wouldn't surprise me if more than a few have been lost over the years as well (dumped, sold off, converted to other uses).

Often makes you wonder what they do do with old stuff, we don't tend to see many "Robby the Robot" situations these days with props.

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I imagine most of them are still around. The advantage of animatronics/model work/practical effects is that you can take a T Rex head from the original JP and put it in a film in 2017 and it'd still look just as good. A CGI one from then, not so much!

Though I expect a fair few of the smaller pieces from the older films will have been sold off to collectors or museums ect.

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To be fair, the cgi from the original JP holds up extremely well. I only watched it last weekend and there is really nothing to make it look out of place.

And in regards to the original Rex body, I remember watching a doc for JP3 and apparently in it's fight with the Spinosaurus, the Spino apparently ripped the Rex robot to pieces. So that's not the original Rex anymore.
   
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Yeah, JP has always put its visual presentation first and foremost and presenting as realistic a spectacle as the technology allows. Much like Star Wars, visual and practical effects work across the industry wouldn't be as good as they are without JP having pushed the boundaries as far as they'd go.

Now I think about it, it's criminal that I've never actually seen one in the cinema, so I shall be rectifying that oversight with Fallen Kingdom for the spectacle if nothing else.

 
   
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Okay they kind of lost me at the volcanic eruption thing, cause that just screams someone walked into their "planning for a new Jurassic Park meeting" with absolutely no idea what they wanted to say and just thought something up on the spot.

But I like Blue, and I'll probably go see it just cause I want to see what happens there XD

   
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Chris Pratt must have his celestial powers in this film, because he got hit by a pyroclastic flow in the trailer.

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Lord of Hats - or they were watching classic dinosaur films in the pre-JP era. Loads of those "lost world" type films had volcanic eruptions. Often as not near the end it was that final race to escape the volcano and the dinosaurs and the cavemen/evil scientist all before the boat left!

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Looks fun! I'm in.

I hope Blue kills a bad guy.

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So we have a mix of JP2 ( possibly a rag tag bunch of guys) JP3 (The abandoned park.)

Yeah I'm in, I've like Dinosaurs since I was 5. Surprised that T-Rex is still going strong. Thing has been alive since the early 90s.

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 welshhoppo wrote:
So we have a mix of JP2 ( possibly a rag tag bunch of guys) JP3 (The abandoned park.)

Yeah I'm in, I've like Dinosaurs since I was 5. Surprised that T-Rex is still going strong. Thing has been alive since the early 90s.


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 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
 welshhoppo wrote:
So we have a mix of JP2 ( possibly a rag tag bunch of guys) JP3 (The abandoned park.)

Yeah I'm in, I've like Dinosaurs since I was 5. Surprised that T-Rex is still going strong. Thing has been alive since the early 90s.


Hey, he's only 24. He shouldn't have even hit his prime yet


They reckon Sue the T-Rex was about 28, and she was pretty old.

Unless they somehow modified its lifespan.

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All I can think of is this woot!

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Am I the only one who thinks this trailer looks absolutely awful?

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 Sasori wrote:
Chris Pratt must have his celestial powers in this film, because he got hit by a pyroclastic flow in the trailer.


Eh, the general public just thinks it's just a bit of a dust storm. The only movie I can recall that did them decently was Dantes Peak.
   
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Am I the only one who thinks this trailer looks absolutely awful?


Awful? No, but it doesn't do anything to make me interested in seeing this movie, either.

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I've liked all of the JP movies so far, despite the flaws. The first one is obviously the best, but all have been decent at least. I'm cautiously optimistic about this one after seeing the trailer. I did enjoy Chris Pratt's character from JW, so it's nice to see him coming back, plus they are bringing Jeff Goldblum back in, so that'll be cool. The visuals look good, but that's par for the course for a Jurassic Park movie.

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I've liked all of the JP movies so far, despite the flaws. The first one is obviously the best, but all have been decent at least. I'm cautiously optimistic about this one after seeing the trailer. I did enjoy Chris Pratt's character from JW, so it's nice to see him coming back, plus they are bringing Jeff Goldblum back in, so that'll be cool. The visuals look good, but that's par for the course for a Jurassic Park movie.


Eh, I'm with TotalBiscuit - Jurassic World was a better film and a better execution of the concept than the original(which was good, don't get me wrong).

I'm in two minds about Fallen Kingdom - it sounds an interesting idea, but I was actually kind of looking forward to seeing some of those weird plot concepts they were floating around right after World came out, like the tech being leaked out and "open sourced" and the consequences of that. FK seems like it might end up being a mashup of JP2&3, which is, you know, fine.

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Last one was fantastic - this looks like it will be good The lead characters work well together, the dinosuars are great - look forward to it.

Eh, the general public just thinks it's just a bit of a dust storm. The only movie I can recall that did them decently was Dantes Peak.


Re pyroclastic flow - have you seen the end of Pompei ?

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Up till now the dinosaurs were always isolated on that single island; barring one incident they've not been removed from it either (and that incident likely ended any idea or plot to remove them).

Perhaps the idea of this plot arc is to break the island thus forcing the dinosaurs to be relocated. Then in the resulting chaos we might see them split up. There could be more than one interested party in launching a rescue mission to capture them on the international scene.

Thus setting the stage for a 3rd film whereby the idea of dinosaurs off the main island and in different regions is already established; thus paving the way to continue the military application angle.

This film also brings Blue back and the concept of trained dinosaurs so based on who is undertaking the rescue that also sets the ground work for a further film whereby the trainers have taken a selection and, by virtue of how they work with the dinosaurs, have started training in general once more as part of how they resume keeping the species alive and potentially viable economically (new theme park - ride the dinosaurs or such - or just with the angle that fully trained livestock is less likely to escape and eat everybody!)

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Actually the dinosaurs are on at least 2 islands of the 5 deaths. Isla Nublar holds the Jurassic Park and Jurassic World.

But they were raised and developed on Isla Sorna, which is also known as Site B. Which is where the lost world and JP3 take place.

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Some of them fly or are aquatic so them spreading is more likely

 welshhoppo wrote:
 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
 welshhoppo wrote:
So we have a mix of JP2 ( possibly a rag tag bunch of guys) JP3 (The abandoned park.)

Yeah I'm in, I've like Dinosaurs since I was 5. Surprised that T-Rex is still going strong. Thing has been alive since the early 90s.


Hey, he's only 24. He shouldn't have even hit his prime yet


They reckon Sue the T-Rex was about 28, and she was pretty old.

Unless they somehow modified its lifespan.


They stated several times that they have modified lots about the dinosaurs to make them fit the public perception so no feathers etc - if they used modern reptilian dna as well aging is less likely to be an issue - crocs and turtle etc live a long time growing all the time.

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Well seeing as T-Rex were actually pretty small unit about the Age of 15, I assume they also have rapid growth.

I know it's not "canon" but in operation Genesis (the best park building game ever) the maximum life was only a few years.

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 welshhoppo wrote:
Well seeing as T-Rex were actually pretty small unit about the Age of 15, I assume they also have rapid growth.

I know it's not "canon" but in operation Genesis (the best park building game ever) the maximum life was only a few years.



Totally offtopic somewhat but interestingly many species can have short lifespans in captivity until specific missing criteria for keeping them healthy is found. Fish are often a good example as the water qualities and temperatures can be quite complex for some.

That said, yes, the Jurassic Park dinosaurs are indeed heavily genetically modified, which is great because it means that changes in study of real dinosaurs doesn't make them any less or more "real" plus we can have Blue style raptors with an intelligence we can more relate too

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 Overread wrote:

That said, yes, the Jurassic Park dinosaurs are indeed heavily genetically modified, which is great because it means that changes in study of real dinosaurs doesn't make them any less or more "real" plus we can have Blue style raptors with an intelligence we can more relate too


On the other hand, it'd be quite amusing to have an 'expert' character spend a good chunk of the film irritatingly pointing out to everyone how these aren't 'real' dinos because they don't have feathers and the raptors are too big ect... then have him get eaten by one while he tries to explain how inaccurate it is...

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