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The first reference-

BA codex, pg 14, para 5: "Unusually for a Space Marine Chapter, the Blood Angels command sufficient Land Raiders to deploy these mighty vehicles as line transports, rather than elite support units."

This doesn't explicitly state that Blood Angels Land Raiders are dedicated transports, but does provide fluff for the following:

BA codex, pg 60, para 4: "Not only does this allow the Blood Angels to field their Land Raiders as dedicated transport vehicles instead of having to reserve them for the battle-brothers of their 1st company, it also provides them with a tangible link to their days of former glory."

However, all of the Land Raider entries in the BA codex list them as heavy.

Am I missing something here?

The folks who wrote the lore entries didn't talk to the folks who wrote the rules. Land Raiders are Heavy Support choices, not Dedicated Transports.

Yeah, both of those are fluff entries and not rules in any way, shape or form.

Fluff is not rules. Land Raiders are only Heavy Support.

If we let fluff be rules we can just auto-win every game by being Ultramarines.

 Mr. Shine wrote:
Yeah, both of those are fluff entries and not rules in any way, shape or form.

Chimera seems to suffer from this, too, as "amphibious" is mentioned in the fluff, but not present in the rules anymore.

M.

Whats wrong with land raiders being heavy support ? Makes it easier getting +1 CP for a spearhead detachment.

p5freak wrote:
Whats wrong with land raiders being heavy support ? Makes it easier getting +1 CP for a spearhead detachment.

The fact that the rules don't say they can.

Edit: My bad, read Heavy Support as Transports. Sorry!

 BaconCatBug wrote:

p5freak wrote:
Whats wrong with land raiders being heavy support ? Makes it easier getting +1 CP for a spearhead detachment.

The fact that the rules don't say they can.

Don't say they can what? LRs are HS. You posted so yourself. What are you on about?

Just to clarify: I'm not suggesting that Land Raiders are currently dedicated transport for BA. The various Land Raider unit profile entries indicate that they are heavy support and, as such, are heavy support.

My post was simply meant to verify that I hadn't missed something in the codex indicating that Land Raiders are currently dedicated transports for BA. Based on the answers so far, it seems not.

That does leave the odd issue of the fluff disagreeing with the unit profile. I'm sure it's happened before, but this fluff does seem oddly specific, and is mentioned more than once.

It seems quite possible that, as AnomanderRake points out, the writers assigned to the fluff had some ideas about Land Raiders that:

a) were never communicated to another team assigned to unit profile entries

or

b) were communicated to another team assigned to unit profile entries, and were met with "lol wut? no."

I think it's also plausible that those ideas were communicated, but the unit profile entries retained the heavy designation through unintentional copy-pasta use.

I'm sure there will be a BA codex FAQ before too long, and if Land Raiders were intended to be dedicated transports for BA, it will explicitly say so. If not, then I think we can chalk it all up to a curious case of the fluff team not having enough coffee before they sat down to write their section.

They do use the words "line transports" rather than the unit type "Dedicated Transports" initially, and the laster bit is still fluff, not rules.

I wouldn't try and extract rules from the fluff section! As Land Raiders can carry troops, they are Transports, albeit not (rules terms) Dedicated Transports.

I imagine that bit of fluff is a remnant from back in 5th (and earlier?) where BA did have Land Raiders as DTs for basically everything that could take a transport.