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Plan is the cadian force will fully deploy including the shadowsword wrapped with infantry. Sentinels will hide as best as possible and grab objectives when the time is right.
The Tallarn force will deploy with the stratagem to deep strike into enemy zone to mess up their plans. Scions from the Cadian force will also deep strike.
Let me know your thoughts.

++ Brigade Detachment +9CP (Imperium - Astra Militarum) [50 PL, 782pts] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Regiment: Cadian

+ HQ +

Company Commander [2 PL, 35pts]: Chainsword, Plasma pistol

Company Commander [2 PL, 35pts]: Chainsword, Plasma pistol

Primaris Psyker [2 PL, 46pts]: 3) Psychic Barrier, 4) Nightshroud, Force Stave

+ Troops +

Infantry Squad [3 PL, 45pts]
. 8x Guardsman
. Guardsman W/ Special Weapon: Grenade Launcher
. Sergeant: Chainsword, Laspistol

Infantry Squad [3 PL, 45pts]
. 8x Guardsman
. Guardsman W/ Special Weapon: Grenade Launcher
. Sergeant: Chainsword, Laspistol

Infantry Squad [3 PL, 45pts]
. 8x Guardsman
. Guardsman W/ Special Weapon: Grenade Launcher
. Sergeant: Chainsword, Laspistol

Infantry Squad [3 PL, 45pts]
. 8x Guardsman
. Guardsman W/ Special Weapon: Grenade Launcher
. Sergeant: Chainsword, Laspistol

Infantry Squad [3 PL, 45pts]
. 8x Guardsman
. Guardsman W/ Special Weapon: Grenade Launcher
. Sergeant: Chainsword, Laspistol

Militarum Tempestus Scions [3 PL, 62pts]
. 2x Scion: 2x Hot-shot Lasgun
. Scion w/ Special Weapon: Hot-shot Volley Gun
. Scion w/ Special Weapon: Hot-shot Volley Gun
. Tempestor: Chainsword, Hot-shot Laspistol

+ Elites +

Ogryn Bodyguard [4 PL, 55pts]: Ripper Gun, Slabshield

Tech-Priest Enginseer [2 PL, 42pts]: Servo-arm

Tech-Priest Enginseer [2 PL, 42pts]: Servo-arm

+ Fast Attack +

Scout Sentinels [3 PL, 47pts]
. Scout Sentinel: Multi-laser, Sentinel Chainsaw

Scout Sentinels [3 PL, 47pts]
. Scout Sentinel: Multi-laser, Sentinel Chainsaw

Scout Sentinels [3 PL, 47pts]
. Scout Sentinel: Multi-laser, Sentinel Chainsaw

+ Heavy Support +

Heavy Weapons Squad [3 PL, 33pts]
. Heavy Weapon Team: Mortar
. Heavy Weapon Team: Mortar
. Heavy Weapon Team: Mortar

Heavy Weapons Squad [3 PL, 33pts]
. Heavy Weapon Team: Mortar
. Heavy Weapon Team: Mortar
. Heavy Weapon Team: Mortar

Heavy Weapons Squad [3 PL, 33pts]
. Heavy Weapon Team: Mortar
. Heavy Weapon Team: Mortar
. Heavy Weapon Team: Mortar

++ Total: [50 PL, 782pts] ++


++ Super-Heavy Auxiliary Detachment (Imperium - Astra Militarum) [26 PL, 472pts] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Regiment: Tallarn

+ Lord of War +

Shadowsword [26 PL, 472pts]: Twin heavy bolter
. 2 Lascannon & Twin Heavy Bolter Sponsons: 2x Lascannon, 2x Twin heavy bolter

++ Total: [26 PL, 472pts] ++


++ Spearhead Detachment +1CP (Imperium - Astra Militarum) [42 PL, 743pts] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Regiment: Tallarn

+ HQ +

Tank Commander [12 PL, 227pts]: Heavy Bolters, Heavy Stubber, Lascannon
. Command Punisher: Turret-mounted Punisher Gatling Cannon

+ Heavy Support +

Leman Russ Battle Tanks [10 PL, 168pts]
. Leman Russ Battle Tank: Battle Cannon, Heavy Bolter, Heavy Bolters

Leman Russ Battle Tanks [10 PL, 180pts]
. Leman Russ Executioner: Heavy Bolter, Plasma Cannons, Turret-mounted Executioner Plasma Cannon

Leman Russ Battle Tanks [10 PL, 168pts]
. Leman Russ Battle Tank: Battle Cannon, Heavy Bolter, Heavy Bolters

++ Total: [42 PL, 743pts] ++

New faq nerfs tallarn force, only one of those three units being deployed can be vehicle. You have to think about it again

I thought the FAQ(October) says that 3 tanks can be used for the stratagem. Is there a more recent faq that says otherwise?

 Spreelock wrote:
New faq nerfs tallarn force, only one of those three units being deployed can be vehicle. You have to think about it again

no only one unit of vehicals.. so you can do a squadron of Russes

I think your scions also have 1 special weapon to much.
I thought it was 1 special weaon for every 5 models in the unit.

Also, you need to be aware that the Shadowsword won't get the benefits from the Tallarn trait.

Teal_AP wrote:
I thought the FAQ(October) says that 3 tanks can be used for the stratagem. Is there a more recent faq that says otherwise?

 Spreelock wrote:
New faq nerfs tallarn force, only one of those three units being deployed can be vehicle. You have to think about it again

My mistake, it actually allows three vehicles as a squadron to be deployed.


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Btw, if you take russes as a squadron, you cant have spearhead Detachment

Krull wrote:
I think your scions also have 1 special weapon to much.
I thought it was 1 special weaon for every 5 models in the unit.

2 models for every 5 can replace.


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Kdash wrote:
Also, you need to be aware that the Shadowsword won't get the benefits from the Tallarn trait.

Yes unfortunately the only way I could see the shadowsword making use of the regimental trait is if it is taken in a supreme command detatchment which I do not like the idea of spending the additional points to make it worth while.

Based on responses, I think I may have found a way to have the tallarn tanks in a spearhead for the deepstrike stratagem and so they can still capture control objectives. The bridgade may be best as cadian regiment again. Let me know your thoughts. 13 CP. 1999 pts.

++ Brigade Detachment +9CP (Imperium - Astra Militarum) [45 PL, 734pts] ++

Regiment: Tallarn

+ HQ [6 PL, 105pts] +

Company Commander [2 PL, 35pts]: Chainsword, Kurov's Aquila, Master of Command, Plasma pistol [5pts], Warlord

Company Commander [2 PL, 35pts]: Chainsword, Plasma pistol [5pts]

Company Commander [2 PL, 35pts]: Chainsword, Plasma pistol [5pts]

+ Troops [18 PL, 287pts] +

Infantry Squad [3 PL, 45pts]
. 8x Guardsman [32pts]
. Guardsman W/ Special Weapon [9pts]: Grenade Launcher [5pts]
. Sergeant [4pts]: Laspistol

Infantry Squad [3 PL, 45pts]
. 8x Guardsman [32pts]
. Guardsman W/ Special Weapon [9pts]: Grenade Launcher [5pts]
. Sergeant [4pts]: Laspistol

Infantry Squad [3 PL, 45pts]
. 8x Guardsman [32pts]
. Guardsman W/ Special Weapon [9pts]: Grenade Launcher [5pts]
. Sergeant [4pts]: Laspistol

Infantry Squad [3 PL, 45pts]
. 8x Guardsman [32pts]
. Guardsman W/ Special Weapon [9pts]: Grenade Launcher [5pts]
. Sergeant [4pts]: Laspistol

Infantry Squad [3 PL, 45pts]
. 8x Guardsman [32pts]
. Guardsman W/ Special Weapon [9pts]: Grenade Launcher [5pts]
. Sergeant [4pts]: Laspistol

Militarum Tempestus Scions [3 PL, 62pts]
. 2x Scion [20pts]: 2x Hot-shot Lasgun [2pts]
. Scion w/ Special Weapon [16pts]: Hot-shot Volley Gun [7pts]
. Scion w/ Special Weapon [16pts]: Hot-shot Volley Gun [7pts]
. Tempestor [10pts]: Chainsword, Hot-shot Laspistol [1pts]

+ Elites [3 PL, 108pts] +

Astropath [1 PL, 36pts]: 4) Nightshroud, Telepathica Stave [6pts]

Astropath [1 PL, 36pts]: 6) Psychic Barrier, Telepathica Stave [6pts]

Astropath [1 PL, 36pts]: 6) Psychic Maelstrom, Telepathica Stave [6pts]

+ Fast Attack [9 PL, 135pts] +

Scout Sentinels [3 PL, 45pts]
. Scout Sentinel [3 PL, 45pts]: Multi-laser [10pts]

Scout Sentinels [3 PL, 45pts]
. Scout Sentinel [3 PL, 45pts]: Multi-laser [10pts]

Scout Sentinels [3 PL, 45pts]
. Scout Sentinel [3 PL, 45pts]: Multi-laser [10pts]

+ Heavy Support [9 PL, 99pts] +

Heavy Weapons Squad [3 PL, 33pts]
. Heavy Weapon Team [11pts]: Mortar [5pts]
. Heavy Weapon Team [11pts]: Mortar [5pts]
. Heavy Weapon Team [11pts]: Mortar [5pts]

Heavy Weapons Squad [3 PL, 33pts]
. Heavy Weapon Team [11pts]: Mortar [5pts]
. Heavy Weapon Team [11pts]: Mortar [5pts]
. Heavy Weapon Team [11pts]: Mortar [5pts]

Heavy Weapons Squad [3 PL, 33pts]
. Heavy Weapon Team [11pts]: Mortar [5pts]
. Heavy Weapon Team [11pts]: Mortar [5pts]
. Heavy Weapon Team [11pts]: Mortar [5pts]

++ Total: [45 PL, 734pts] ++


++ Spearhead Detachment +1CP (Imperium - Astra Militarum) [48 PL, 793pts] ++

Regiment: Tallarn

+ HQ [12 PL, 211pts] +

Tank Commander [12 PL, 211pts]: Heavy Bolter [8pts], Heavy Bolters [16pts]
. Command Punisher [20pts]: Turret-mounted Punisher Gatling Cannon [20pts]

+ Heavy Support [36 PL, 582pts] +

Heavy Weapons Squad [3 PL, 33pts]
. Heavy Weapon Team [11pts]: Mortar [5pts]
. Heavy Weapon Team [11pts]: Mortar [5pts]
. Heavy Weapon Team [11pts]: Mortar [5pts]

Heavy Weapons Squad [3 PL, 33pts]
. Heavy Weapon Team [11pts]: Mortar [5pts]
. Heavy Weapon Team [11pts]: Mortar [5pts]
. Heavy Weapon Team [11pts]: Mortar [5pts]

Leman Russ Battle Tanks [30 PL, 516pts]
. Leman Russ Battle Tank [10 PL, 168pts]: Battle Cannon [22pts], Heavy Bolter [8pts], Heavy Bolters [16pts]
. Leman Russ Battle Tank [10 PL, 168pts]: Battle Cannon [22pts], Heavy Bolter [8pts], Heavy Bolters [16pts]
. Leman Russ Executioner [10 PL, 180pts]: Heavy Bolter [8pts], Plasma Cannons [30pts], Turret-mounted Executioner Plasma Cannon [20pts]

++ Super-Heavy Auxiliary Detachment (Imperium - Astra Militarum) [26 PL, 472pts] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Regiment: Tallarn

+ Lord of War [26 PL, 472pts] +

Shadowsword [26 PL, 472pts]: Twin heavy bolter [14pts]
. 2 Lascannon & Twin Heavy Bolter Sponsons [68pts]: 2x Lascannon [40pts], 2x Twin heavy bolter [28pts]

++ Total: [26 PL, 472pts] ++

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are you playing the new ITC missions ? or just general ?

 zedsdead wrote:
are you playing the new ITC missions ? or just general ?

Just general games. What should be considered for ITC? I'm not up to speed on these rules.

i have been running a heavy weapons team (morter) in my Tac squads to prevent reaper( +1 VP for killing a unit with 10+ models) scoring.