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 Sarouan wrote:
Well these Looncurse boxes got sold out pretty quick in Belgium too. Looks like people got the lesson from Carrion Empire and didn't take any risk. Oh well, nevermind for me.

Check your local shops on Saturday. This was just the online allocation that is sold out.

Yeah, shocked to see the US one went out so fast. But it is a new army and a previously very popular army so I guess it makes sense. Hopefully my guy gets his full order so I can get the 2 I ordered from him.

I was surprised it was still up this morning to be honest. It's less that they're new armies and more that it was stuff that isn't easy to come by in bundle boxes.

It's the same pattern we saw with Carrion Empire. GW might not be producing as many, but certainly with at least one army with a tome and one soon to have one the provision of updated rules at the same time as a duel box REALLY flares the sale rate.

New models, a great starting price on a very solid core of models for the army and updated rules that are 2.0 compatible makes for a very attractive offer. That most know the duel army pack will be short term I think adds to the pressure to buy buy buy. Plus with all the interest its easy to offload the other half of the set if one wants.

Carrion Empire was sold out by Sunday, not Tuesday--at least here in the US. Also worth mentioning that a big reason for that is they literally had the books, Endless Spells, etc all available as part of a bundle for both sides. Sylvaneth and Gloomspite Gits sold simply on the merit of "This is a hell of a good deal".

Fyreslayers Designer Commentary and Fyreslayers errata up as well.

 Kanluwen wrote:
Carrion Empire was sold out by Sunday, not Tuesday.

All Hail the Great Horned Rat!

Spotted this on FB:

WHY does Sylvanath get those cool looking dice and Slaanesh didn't get ANY dice?

Seriously those are really neat dice

Probably because Slaanesh's dice will come whenever they do the 40k release? Maybe.

Those are neat, but I can't justify getting any.

So, the big blue one is new, right? As in, the trees get a tree to complement their other trees?

 Overread wrote:
WHY does Sylvanath get those cool looking dice and Slaanesh didn't get ANY dice?

Seriously those are really neat dice

Why? Because I want them. Did we get Necron dice? No. Did we get Slaanesh dice? No. You'd better not be holding out hope that there will be Battle Sister dice. Just letting you know ahead of time.

So, mobile spirit/spite trees?

 Geifer wrote:
So, the big blue one is new, right? As in, the trees get a tree to complement their other trees?

 Overread wrote:
WHY does Sylvanath get those cool looking dice and Slaanesh didn't get ANY dice?

Seriously those are really neat dice

Why? Because I want them. Did we get Necron dice? No. Did we get Slaanesh dice? No. You'd better not be holding out hope that there will be Battle Sister dice. Just letting you know ahead of time.

It's ME!

No Tyranid dice - No Necron dice - no Slaanesh Dice - Daughter's of Khaine are clearly a fluke.

I think the spectral tree is a spell, it has a base which terrain pieces do not. Looks awesome regardless, love those roots. Will have to see if it holds up when we get a good look at it.

Is that new terrain in the picture?

 Knight wrote:
Is that new terrain in the picture?

Doubt it looks like they kitbashed some Azyrite Ruins/Townscape to make it.

 NinthMusketeer wrote:
I think the spectral tree is a spell, it has a base which terrain pieces do not. Looks awesome regardless, love those roots. Will have to see if it holds up when we get a good look at it.

All your Wyldwood rules trigger off this spell!

Failed. Failed. Success! Disbind!

Neat....

Kinda feels like this years AoS releases are a bit phoned in. Just codex, dice, spells, 1 new hero. Sylvaneth have a pretty small range as it is, I would have liked to see at least 1 or 2 new kits, and I don't like named characters or pre made heroes leading my army. FEC didn't get a plastic varghulf either. I'm kind of dreading any update to Seraphon cause they need their entire skink and saurus infantry redone...not just endless spells and a friggin battletome.

I feel like the alternative is getting neither, so I am pretty happy with it.

 NinthMusketeer wrote:
I feel like the alternative is getting neither, so I am pretty happy with it.

Very much this. AoS while improving is still a game stretched across warring design paradigms. This approach seems like the best way to improve the immediate future of the game during a time when manufacturing slots are limited.

So they get a walking tree... stump... thing?

 Overread wrote:
WHY does Sylvanath get those cool looking dice and Slaanesh didn't get ANY dice?

Because Slaanesh are being Squatted! Duh!

 Eldarain wrote:

 NinthMusketeer wrote:
I feel like the alternative is getting neither, so I am pretty happy with it.

Very much this. AoS while improving is still a game stretched across warring design paradigms. This approach seems like the best way to improve the immediate future of the game during a time when manufacturing slots are limited.

Exactly and its FAR better for GW and us gamers that GW establishes each army as they are supposed to be with Battletomes rather than keeping up the mess that it was. Don't forget before Christmas (and already half a year into AoS 2.0) the website store still had all the dozens of subfactions that often had one or two models only to their name; heck one of the Death subfactions was just an alternate build on their Mortis Engine. The Christmas Cleanup was a major step forward and now that GW is getting out Battletomes you can be sure many people are more happy to be able to play their army up to standard rather than cobbling together alliances or grand alliance rules etc... that don't quite complete evenly with 2.0 Tomes.

GW knows they can't update every model line, heck look at Skaven a very popular very big line that still has a lot of metal models within it. Instead of leaving them for another 2, 3 or more years without a big update they've given them a Battletome right now which means Skaven players can play Skaven in a functional way for all those years they wait for a big release (or get drip fed new releases over that time period).


Sure we'd all love Gloomspite level releases for every army and many of the armies do need either a boost in model variety and/or replacements/updated sculpts. GW however has limited production slots and limited investment (remember moulds run into the hundreds of thousands of pounds each) and simply can't do all the armies that need those updates within one year. They can do the whole game that needs Battletomes within a year, or at least near enough. By the coming Christmas I'd expect to see most Grand Alliances fully updated, with perhaps only Order having one or two outliers.

Then we'll get releases like Chaos 40K is having, updated sculpts, reworked ideas and new things added. Granted this might annoy some as some tomes will update faster, but I think that its a modest complaint when taken against the fact that getting the whole game updated is a far bigger issue. Plus AoS is selling really well even whilst its got outdated components, get the other half of the range up to date and it will be in a very strong position!

Looncurse point values leaked.



Gloomspite Gitz are unchanged from their current iteration.
Sylvaneth are also unchanged. Biggest change seems to be the splitting of Kurnoth Hunters into individual profiles.

Arch-Revenant is a pleasantly reasonable amount of points.

Tree revenant's desperately need a point drop or some insanely better rules. I'm hoping the splitting of the Kurnoth means we get point drops on the non-shooting ones.

 Hulksmash wrote:
Tree revenant's desperately need a point drop or some insanely better rules. I'm hoping the splitting of the Kurnoth means we get point drops on the non-shooting ones.

The small tweaks to the hunters extra rolls are pretty big, but the biggest improvement to them is having the ability to reroll 1's for 100 points. The fact that 100 points also includes a model which can lend some close combat support if they get charged is icing on the cake. Tree revenants still seem to be a tax, like dryads, required by the game.

 Hulksmash wrote:
Tree revenant's desperately need a point drop or some insanely better rules. I'm hoping the splitting of the Kurnoth means we get point drops on the non-shooting ones.

I don't know. I think the big test will be to see whether or not we actually are going to get a Tree Revenant with Bow option when the book drops and what the Households will bring for the Tree-Revenants.

I feel like there's more than just the Arch-Revenant and Spites coming. I might be reading a bit too much into things, but I did find it interesting that the Core Book made it clear that Kurnoth is still around--just apparently hibernating in Ghyran. It's implied/suggested that Alarielle herself does not know he's still around.

And then the fluff on the Arch-Revenants...they've just started showing up in the most recent seedings of Sylvaneth. The Kurnoth Hunters acknowledge them as being imbued with Kurnoth's power. And both Arch-Revenants and Kurnoth Hunters have "Free Spirits" where the Tree-Revenants have "Household"(if reading the AoS app) or "Noble Spirits"(reading the downloaded PDF)...

I feel like I'm taking crazy pills, but maybe Kurnoth is coming back?!

Thing is revenants just got a crazy powerful teleport ability in their warscroll update and the point cost needs to account for that. What kind of sucks is their re-roll ability still has no scaling for size so minimum units remain much more efficient. Would have liked to see one re-roll per 5 or something.

Sylvaneth Battletome confirmed on Warhammer Community and new Kurnoth warscrolls:

https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/ENG_Kurnoth-Hunters.pdf

Just popped up on the Community site

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/05/08/a-late-bloom-for-the-sylvaneth/

Is he using one of them "ooop nooooorth" or whatever they're called accents?

Love those new trees. Shame about the delay.