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That would be the most incredible plot twist in 40k history.

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That's fake.
   
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That's clearly a fake and thus does not deserve it's place in N&R.
But I would love to know howe they made this forgery, it would be very useful... Or is it just Photoshop?
   
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WoW that balancing is brilliant. I hope someone tried to pass this off in a homebrewed open game.

He could possibly cause a 120 wounds in a single fight phase. Wow. just wow xD


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A mutated Leman could be lovely. Isnt Khorne known as the Wolf God?

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 Galas wrote:
A mutated Leman could be lovely. Isnt Khorne known as the Wolf God?



More kind of the Hound God (his face in RoC, The Bloothirster's face, the flesh hound,
most of the beastmen and some champions had some hound features on them...)

Anyway, I wil call fake on this one too.

   
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It's too cool to be true.

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I doubt it is, but it could be true. I mean the evidence is there - one of the weapons is strictly better than one of the profiles for the other melee weapon, a classic GW move.
   
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Kudos to whoever produced it but.....so fake it hurts!

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Fakeness of the source aside:

I can see lore precedent for it, but in a meta sense I can't see them turning any loyalist primarchs.

The primarchs are the star players of their faction, and I don't believe GW would risk alienating people so much by having any of them turncoat.

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On a limb I am calling it now - Lorgar is going Loyalist and becomes the poster boy for the Ecclesiarchy and ushers in a resurgence in the Imperial creed like never before.

But hey....

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Seems like fake news.
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This is so wrong! Everyone knows that if there is a supposedly loyalist Primarch siding with chaos it should be Lion!

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 Crimson wrote:
This is so wrong! Everyone knows that if there is a supposedly loyalist Primarch siding with chaos it should be Lion!


Hah, yeah, that meme.

But seriously, The Lion had no part in the cult of secrecy that could be seen as traitorous that developed after he became comatose. Sure, a big chunk of his legion ended up following Luther to Chaos, but Lion ended up in trouble specifically because he was resolutely fighting the Chaos insurgence. He was devoutly loyal to humanity right up until being taken out of action.

It makes no sense to accuse the Lion of heresy, and honestly I don't think he's going to be very happy with a lot of what his Chapter have done once he wakes up.
   
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Stux wrote:
 Crimson wrote:
This is so wrong! Everyone knows that if there is a supposedly loyalist Primarch siding with chaos it should be Lion!


Hah, yeah, that meme.

But seriously, The Lion had no part in the cult of secrecy that could be seen as traitorous that developed after he became comatose. Sure, a big chunk of his legion ended up following Luther to Chaos, but Lion ended up in trouble specifically because he was resolutely fighting the Chaos insurgence. He was devoutly loyal to humanity right up until being taken out of action.

It makes no sense to accuse the Lion of heresy, and honestly I don't think he's going to be very happy with a lot of what his Chapter have done once he wakes up.

That is just one version of the story. Maybe that's the lie the DA keep telling themselves? Maybe Lion was the traitor and Luther tried to stop him.

I always thought this would be way cooler. It would be a properly heavy dark secret.

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 Crimson wrote:
Stux wrote:
 Crimson wrote:
This is so wrong! Everyone knows that if there is a supposedly loyalist Primarch siding with chaos it should be Lion!


Hah, yeah, that meme.

But seriously, The Lion had no part in the cult of secrecy that could be seen as traitorous that developed after he became comatose. Sure, a big chunk of his legion ended up following Luther to Chaos, but Lion ended up in trouble specifically because he was resolutely fighting the Chaos insurgence. He was devoutly loyal to humanity right up until being taken out of action.

It makes no sense to accuse the Lion of heresy, and honestly I don't think he's going to be very happy with a lot of what his Chapter have done once he wakes up.

That is just one version of the story. Maybe that's the lie the DA keep telling themselves? Maybe Lion was the traitor and Luther tried to stop him.

I always thought this would be way cooler. It would be a properly heavy dark secret.


That's a pretty cool twist. If this was Space Game of Thrones, I'd be well down with that. But I can't see it happening, for the reasons I have a few posts up. For Dark Angel players, who would be the biggest market for a Lion release, it would be a major kick in the teeth having had the return teased for years.
   
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 NoiseMarine with Tinnitus wrote:
On a limb I am calling it now - Lorgar is going Loyalist and becomes the poster boy for the Ecclesiarchy and ushers in a resurgence in the Imperial creed like never before.

But hey....


I would unironically love this. Has nothing to do with the fact that the Ecclesiarchy is my favorite branch of the Imperium.

 
   
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I really (REALLY!) don't like this whole loyalist primarchs returning thing, but if they're gonna do it, there really needs to be some sort of twist. It is really lame if they all just suddenly return, pretty much at the same time, and carry on like nothing had happened.

There really needs to be fundamental tonal difference between 40K and 30K, and I think Guilliman has already dangerously damaged that.

Full on chaos aligned Russ might be too much, but horribly mutated and insane monster Russ would probably work.

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I'd actually love this twist to happen, they could do this for all the other lost primarchs too. I want a centaur Kahn, and a bird man Corax!


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Wait... Kahn is in the webway hunting after DARK eldar. So he could be experimented on by a Haemoculous.


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Just think of the Skaven abominations.

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The Dark angels codex set up the fallen to be the new chaos "Legion", by stating that Luther brought the DA on Caliban to legion strength before the lions arrival, and by having Luther escape. Whether or not GW follows up on a lost legions worth of space marines lead by a someone who can see the future and could go toe to toe with a primarch is an open question, but if I were picking the next traitor legion my money is there.

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 Grimgold wrote:
The Dark angels codex set up the fallen to be the new chaos "Legion", by stating that Luther brought the DA on Caliban to legion strength before the lions arrival, and by having Luther escape. Whether or not GW follows up on a lost legions worth of space marines lead by a someone who can see the future and could go toe to toe with a primarch is an open question, but if I were picking the next traitor legion my money is there.


I'm expecting a campaign book, hopefully some time in 2018, that covers this.

I expect it to have The Lion and Luther as fieldable characters, as well as introducing Fallen as a Chaos Space Marine Legion, including Legion Trait, Strat, and a rule to allow them to take Fallen as Troops.

That much I'd stick money on.

I also don't expect Luther's Fallen to represent the totality of Fallen Dark Angels. Fallen are often shown to support the Imperium, and personally I wouldn't be surprised if Cypher is brought forward to be the leader of the 'loyal' Fallen faction. I could see Cypher being the one who awakens the Lion in order to fight Luther too. Perhaps the Lion, attempting to heal the divisions of his chapter, would bring Cypher and the good Fallen back in to the fold as redeemed Angels.
   
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I would so much love this to be the case, I wouldn't even care if Angron never got a release so long as we get a Khorne Primarch AND we get to annoy the SW players in the process!

Unfortunetly, from what I can tell, this originated on /tg/ so its credibility is iffy at best.

(Doesn't mean I'm not going to send this to every hair trigger loyalist I know!)

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Chaos Russ would be hilarious. The anti-mary-sue.

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Stux wrote:

I'm expecting a campaign book, hopefully some time in 2018, that covers this.

I expect it to have The Lion and Luther as fieldable characters, as well as introducing Fallen as a Chaos Space Marine Legion, including Legion Trait, Strat, and a rule to allow them to take Fallen as Troops.

That much I'd stick money on.

I also don't expect Luther's Fallen to represent the totality of Fallen Dark Angels. Fallen are often shown to support the Imperium, and personally I wouldn't be surprised if Cypher is brought forward to be the leader of the 'loyal' Fallen faction. I could see Cypher being the one who awakens the Lion in order to fight Luther too. Perhaps the Lion, attempting to heal the divisions of his chapter, would bring Cypher and the good Fallen back in to the fold as redeemed Angels.


I think GW likes cypher's motives being inscrutable, it's kind of his defining characteristic, so I doubt they will end the mystery of where his allegiance lies. Thanks to luther escaping, the fallen now have a leader who isn't cypher, so they can have their cake and eat it to. Prior to this they couldn't do much with the fallen because you couldn't know whose side they were on, now they can have basically three factions of DA.

Undoubtedly Cypher will have some role in the lions return, but it will be done in such a manner as you aren't sure what his motives were, like he is caught in the secret chamber that holds the lion by Belial or Asmodean, and flees before it's clear if he was there to wake or end the sleeping primarch. The lion then leads the unforgiven on some dark crusade to eliminate luther and the fallen.

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Sounds plausible to me! And yeah, I agree about Cypher.
   
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If you're saying El'Johnson is a traitor...then you're Lion.

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If I was a SW player (and this was true), I would be salty about an evil mutated Leman Russ. However, I think this would make for an awesome twist.

   
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 Retrogamer0001 wrote:
If you're saying El'Johnson is a traitor...then you're Lion.


Or Alpharius/Omegon - yep, that old chestnut again.

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