grr wrote:Hi guys,
I'm returning into 8th from
40k 5th and Fantasy 8th. I'm a bit unsure on how the attacks work for the Blood Throne & Skull Cannon.
Basically, how many base attacks do they get?
Blood Throne
A
HoK on Blood Throne is a single model armed with a hellblade.
It rides atop a Blood Throne and is
attended by two Bloodletters
Do its 5 base attacks include the
HoK and Bloodletters?
Skull Cannon
A Skull Cannon is a single model equiped with a skull cannon and
crewed by two Bloodletters
Do its 2 base attacks include the Bloodletters?
Seeing as a
HoK has 3 attacks and Bloodletters each have 1 this would make sense but I just want to be sure as Fantasy 8th the cannon/throne had its own attacks and BattleScribe shows the profile of the Bloodletters as well as the cannon when selected.
From the Stepping into a New Edition
FAQ https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Warhammer_40000_Stepping_into_a_New_Edition_of_Warhammer_40000.pdf Q: How do the weapon profiles of Cavalry mounts, and other models such as chariots (which have weapon profiles for riders and mounts), work?
A: Each weapon profile is treated as a separate weapon the model is equipped with.
Note that typically these weapon profiles have abilities that mean they can be used to make additional attacks.
For example, a Thunderwolf mount provides its rider with a set of extra attacks with its own melee weapon profile (crushing teeth and claws). So, the rider can make all its attacks using, for example, its thunder hammer, and then it can make an additional set of attacks using the Thunderwolf’s melee weapon profile. When resolving these attacks, bonuses and penalties to the rider’s hit rolls and wound rolls also apply to the Thunderwolf’s attacks – it is effectively a weapon wielded by the rider. As such, where a mount’s weapon profile has a Strength characteristic other than User – as is the case with the Thunderwolf – the Strength of the mount’s attacks is not affected by changes to the model’s Strength. Note, however, that the mount’s weapon profile would be affected by changes to the Strength (or other characteristics) of a model’s weapons.
In short, crew and mounts are all a single model with a single profile, with special rules that may or may not give extra attacks or benefits. Any mention of crew, mounts or attendants is just fluffbabble.
For example, the Herald of Khorne on Blood Throne is a single model with 5 attacks, with various special rules to give it extra killy power to represent the aforementioned crew.
As for Battlescribe, it's good for making lists (since
GW are trying to make points hard to use and discourage their use) but other than that it's worthless. Never trust it for being rules accurate, since any feedback they get is ignored due to the classic insular and feedback-phobic nature of Open Source projects. Double check you have up to date files though, looking at mine and I see no mention of the Bloodletters on the Herald of Khornes info. There is a bug in Battlescribe itself which makes data files not update properly, you have to remove the
40k game completely and re-add it to update.