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Airborne Infiltrating Tomcat




Winchester, VA

As the title says, I'm a returning Fantasy player starting up a Blades of Khorne army. So far I have a Storm of Sigmar starter, Thunder and Blood starter, a start collecting Bloodbound and start collecting Khorne demons box each. I was hoping for some suggestions, guidance and the sort on where to go from here? The area I play in is split between a few casual players and several tournament monkeys si I'd like the ability to field a few competative lists and not get my teeth kicked in. Obviously its going to be a learning curve but I'm up for the challenge. Looking forward to hearing from everyone. Not sure if this helps with suggestions but the more common armies fielded here are Stormcasts, Seraphon, Sylvaneth, Chaos, Death.
   
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Enigmatic Chaos Sorcerer




Tampa, FL

I think Gorepilgrims and Murderhost are the two "competitive" builds, so maybe look into those for ideas; with how battalions have changed in going up in costs with GH2017, they are now something you tend to build an entire army around. Depends on what you want to get out of the army; Blades of Khorne have the benefit of a lot of variety depending on how you want to build.

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- Wayne
Formerly WayneTheGame 
   
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Auspicious Aspiring Champion of Chaos






If you're running Bloodbound (mortals), get 2-3 Slaughterpriests (either weapon, but I prefer the big axe), a Bloodsecrator, one Blood Warriors, and two units of Bloodreavers (you should only need to pick up a couple extra Slaughterpriests based on your first post) This is a Gorepilgrims battalion, and it should be the basis of any Bloodbound army.

2000 Khorne Bloodbound (Skullfiend Tribe- Aqshy)
1000 Tzeentch Arcanites (Pyrofane Cult - Hysh) in progress
2000 Slaves to Darkness (Ravagers)
 
   
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Airborne Infiltrating Tomcat




Winchester, VA

Thanks guys, so in order to run this, I can't field any daemons? is that a correct interpretation?
   
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Enigmatic Chaos Sorcerer




Tampa, FL

You can take daemons without breaking your allegiance, if that's what you are asking.

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Formerly WayneTheGame 
   
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Auspicious Aspiring Champion of Chaos






That depends on what allegiance you're using. If you're using the Khorne allegiance, you can take daemons, Bloodbound, or Slaves to Darkness with a mark of Khorne. If you're using the Khorne Daemon allegiance with a Skullmaster as your general so you can take Bloodcrushers as battleline, you can only use Daemons. If you're using the Khorne Bloodbound allegiance with a Juggerlord general to take Skullcrushers as battleline, then you can only take Bloodbound units. In any case, you can always take up to 20% of your army as allies without breaking allegiance.

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2000 Khorne Bloodbound (Skullfiend Tribe- Aqshy)
1000 Tzeentch Arcanites (Pyrofane Cult - Hysh) in progress
2000 Slaves to Darkness (Ravagers)
 
   
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Airborne Infiltrating Tomcat




Winchester, VA

Awesome okay so if im understanding correctly as long as I run a khorne allegiance with a slaughterpriest as my leader using the gore pilgrims I can field whatever I like with it as long as its khorne? So the same would be with a gorethunder cohort as long as im choosing khorne and not demons? that's freaking outstanding!
   
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You can take "slaves to darkness" units with the khorne keyword too.
   
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Auspicious Aspiring Champion of Chaos






Allegiance seems to be one of the biggest points of confusion in the game right now, especially for new players. Remember that the Allegiance of an army can be any shared keyword(s), so if you wanted to run a Khorne Daemon army, you could absolutely run a Gorethunder Cohort alongside some Mighty Skullcrushers since Skullcrushers also have the Daemon keyword despite the fact they also have the Khorne Bloodbound keyword.

The only thing you need to use the Khorne allegiance abilities, prayers, etc. from Blades of Khorne is the Khorne allegiance, so as long as every model and battalion in the army has the Khorne keyword (every battalion in the book, whether it's made up of Daemons or Bloodbound, is a Khorne battalion, so feel free to mix and match), you're golden.

2000 Khorne Bloodbound (Skullfiend Tribe- Aqshy)
1000 Tzeentch Arcanites (Pyrofane Cult - Hysh) in progress
2000 Slaves to Darkness (Ravagers)
 
   
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Airborne Infiltrating Tomcat




Winchester, VA

I played my first couple games over the weekend and I had a lot of success with the skull cannon, not so much success with the bloodletters though which was disappointing. Blood warriors really get some work done and the mighty skullcrushers performed much better than their bloodcrusher cousins. Is this as should be expected or should i prepare for different results as I get more games under my belt?

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 naxium wrote:
I played my first couple games over the weekend and I had a lot of success with the skull cannon, not so much success with the bloodletters though which was disappointing. Blood warriors really get some work done and the mighty skullcrushers performed much better than their bloodcrusher cousins. Is this as should be expected or should i prepare for different results as I get more games under my belt?


What size units were you using for the Bloodletters? How did you use them during the game?

The other day I had a 20 unit of Bloodletters dish out 8 mortal wounds and wipe out a unit of Tree-Revenants.
   
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Only take bloodletters in units of 30. 10 or 20? Don't bother.

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Airborne Infiltrating Tomcat




Winchester, VA

It was only a unit of 10 since thats all I own currently. first game was against tzeentch and they were obliterated by mortal wounds during magic phases. the second game was versus warherd and he got the charge on them with bulls and they basically crumpled. I was using the few bloodreavers i have to screen the blood warriors but perhaps if i had a screen for the bloodletters theyd get some actual work done for me.
   
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Bloodletters work great in huge masses. You'll hear the phrase "bloodletter bomb", which is a build that uses a lot of Bloodletters.

However 10 of them won't do you much. They are very fragile. Their utility is the propensity for them to dish out tons of damage, particularly when buffed by khorne heroes to grant them more attacks.
   
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For the bloodletters

Wok thirster + bloodstoker makes them fast and gives them a possible turn 1 charge. If you have council of blood you might even be able to duplicate that, but I have not yet tested that.. slaughterpriests with the +1 to hit is ridiculous with there decapitating blows ability. I had them once on a 2+ and mortals on a 3 + re-rolling 1's... No army wants them so close turn 1. and they will have to deal with them turn 1. (Not focussing on the at least 2 thirsters....)
   
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Auspicious Aspiring Champion of Chaos






*edit* Nevermind. It looks like Sayl's spell was changed. It now basically allows you to deepstrike a Slaves to Darkness unit. Still useful if you're using some Khorne-marked Marauders, though.

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2000 Khorne Bloodbound (Skullfiend Tribe- Aqshy)
1000 Tzeentch Arcanites (Pyrofane Cult - Hysh) in progress
2000 Slaves to Darkness (Ravagers)
 
   
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Airborne Infiltrating Tomcat




Winchester, VA

Awesome! thanks everyone, I'll have to give them another go when I can run the proper support units for them and beef up their numbers a bit. Something else i have been looking at and was wondering if anyone here has had experience with: Chaos warshrines and khorne marked knights/warriors? are they worth adding to my blades of khorne army? The warshrine really seems great on paper even if just supporting bloodreavers and bloodwarriors? Chaos warriors seem nice for their points as well but im not 100% on them yet, sway me one way or the other?

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