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Insect-Infested Nurgle Chaos Lord






This thread is now out of date, go check out Nurgle Armies III!

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Thanks for doing this again dude! Looking forward to reading the rest!
   
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 Vomikron Noxis wrote:
Thanks for doing this again dude! Looking forward to reading the rest!
Thanks! I'm happy that people find my advice useful and I'm able to help out prospective Nurgle players.

It's also nice to be able to link this thread rather than type up the same advice for multiple people...

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 NinthMusketeer wrote:
 Vomikron Noxis wrote:
Thanks for doing this again dude! Looking forward to reading the rest!
Thanks! I'm happy that people find my advice useful and I'm able to help out prospective Nurgle players.

It's also nice to be able to link this thread rather than type up the same advice for multiple people...


I found the last one incredibly useful tbh, so I can only assume this one will be the same or better Plus now that we have what appears to be quite a decent book, there must be more to say...

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well done.

AOS
- Kharadron Overlords
- Fyreslayers
- Dispossessed
- Death
- Bloodbound 
   
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Thanks for that, especially liked the explanations of the wizards. I've been mulling over what are the best options.

Really interested on your thoughts of the rest of the book. In particular the use of contagion points.
   
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Thanks for all the compliments guys!

I haven't seen anything which suggests units summoned via contagion points don't cost reinforcement points as normal. Accordingly anything beyond the 7-point value is unlikely to be worth withholding points for, but dropping gnarlmaws everywhere is totally viable.

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Got a specific question for you: assuming I can’t spare the points for the (excellent) lord of afflictions, which hero would you use to support plague drones? It’s basically either Daemon Prince, Harbinger, or Lord on Daemonic Mount. Anything stand out as the best pick?
   
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Daemon Prince. I haven't gotten to him above yet but he has always been a good pair with drones.

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I'm trying to decide if he glotkin is worth it without being the general. If he is your general, you miss out on the insane command trait to reset the cycle back or forward every turn. But for 80 points more you can have the Exalted GUO which does some pretty insane damage.

Also, the harbinger of decay has a great command ability but makes you stay in a tight bubble. I'm starting to think harbinger general with eguo as a monster and damage dealer might be worth it. I love the glotkin model and it sucks to see him stuck in this in between of not doing enough pure damage to warrant him as a non general, but losing a command trait and missing out on the insane resiliency the harbinger gives blightkings.
   
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I haven't gotten to them yet, but harbinger is the go-to for a blightking heavy army with pusgoyles & lord of afflictions to serve a mobile role (knights are also a strong contender here, as are daemon princes). The Glottkin will be going in the 'overpowered' section, but that is because of their fantastic command ability, without it I would still put them as 'good' though. The thing is... The regular GUO is cheaper and will do a lot of what they will, which goes for the exalted GUO as well. Couple with the fact that the bell affects blightkings...

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 NinthMusketeer wrote:
Daemon Prince. I haven't gotten to him above yet but he has always been a good pair with drones.


Tbh you’re probably right, but the lack of mortal wound protection hurts. But that’s his only real failing.
   
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Can I get a bit of feedback on the following list?

Leaders
Great Unclean One (340)
- General
- Trait: Pestilent Breath
- Lore of Virulence: Glorious Afflictions
Poxbringer Herald of Nurgle (120)
- Lore of Virulence: Favoured Poxes
Lord of Afflictions (220)
- Artefact: Rustfang
Sorcerer (120)
- Lore of Malignance: Blades of Putrefaction

Battleline
30 x Plaguebearers (320)
30 x Plaguebearers (320)
5 x Putrid Blightkings (160)

Units
6 x Plague Drones (400)

Total: 2000 / 2000

The Lord of Afflictions is there to be a solid buffer for the Drones, plus the Blightkings if they happen to be in range. The GUO uses his command ability on the Drones too, plus Blades from the Sorcerer if possible. The Blightkings are the only thing I'm not 100% about, but they're better than the alternative and can more or less operate on their own. Seems like there's some decent synergy here but there are a few bits I haven't played with before.
   
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That looks like a decent list to me, appropriate for regular play. You're going to want to have a line of plaguebearers on each side with the GUO in the middle. Drones & Lord of Affliction should be on the flank or even just behind the front line. Blightkings will definitely want to stack behind to counter-charge something engaged with the plaguebearers. The big thing with this army is you have a lot of points into a very durable 60-bearer front, so it's important that they are doing that job. If the enemy is able to direct a majority of attacks against the rest of the army you won't do too well. Also don't be afraid to use command ability + blades on a plaguebearer unit.

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Cool, that’s exactly what I’m going for this would be a “club” army, so nothing too horrendous (although I still like to win)! Good point about the plaguebearers btw, thanks.
   
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Update: due to a severe underestimation of the time involved in getting this worked out the initial section is taking longer than planned. At any rate, 'The Good' section now covers all of the relevant Maggotkin, Slaves to Darkness, and Daemons of Chaos options. The appropriate Pestilens options coming next.

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Thanks again for all the work you've been doing on this, really helpful and interesting.

Two questions: what are your feelings on Epidemius and Slimux in the new book? And secondly, how on earth do you keep a Daemon Prince alive??
   
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I feel like both Epi and Slimux just cost too much. Epi getting the max tally bonus swapped from +1 saves to 1 contagion point a turn is a joke.

What is killing you daemon prince?

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Mortal wounds mostly... I feel like if someone wants him dead then there isn’t much I can do to stop it...

I might try out Slimux for a bit, but mostly because I’ve got 220 points left in my Daemons list after dropping the (pretty useless) Tallyband, and no idea what else to spend them on!
   
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What's the sources for the mortal wounds? That will dramatically affect how to counteract it. That said, if a player wants something dead it will usually happen. Even a GUO will go down if an opponent decides that it's going to. And that's aside from the reality that both sides are losing at least half their armies by the end of an average game. The key is making that the opponent's effort cost more than it's worth.

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 NinthMusketeer wrote:
What's the sources for the mortal wounds? That will dramatically affect how to counteract it. That said, if a player wants something dead it will usually happen. Even a GUO will go down if an opponent decides that it's going to. And that's aside from the reality that both sides are losing at least half their armies by the end of an average game. The key is making that the opponent's effort cost more than it's worth.


Haha the source is probably not being very good at AoS yet Do you have any suggestions for making it a real pain to take him down? I think the problem is that people have very quickly realised how dangerous Drones are with a huge bunch of extra attacks, and that it isn't *too* difficult to remove some of them. That said, I can always string the unit back to the GUO (or Slimux, if I take him) in a pinch. The DP isn't completely essential to success, but it's much easier having him around!

This is exactly why I'll probably go for a Lord of Afflictions to support them in the end, but right at this moment I'm keeping the Nurgle Daemons theme, whilst still trying to make the list as strong as I can, within those limitations.
   
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The Endless Gift artifact will help provided he isn't dying all in one turn. Poxbringers, GUO, and the cycle can all toss healing on him semi-reliably.

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 NinthMusketeer wrote:
The Endless Gift artifact will help provided he isn't dying all in one turn. Poxbringers, GUO, and the cycle can all toss healing on him semi-reliably.


Yeh I’ve strongly considered trying this out, but the downside is that it then isn’t on my GUO :S
   
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GUO doesn't really need it. As long as he doesn't get surrounded it will take a ton if effort to bring him down. I can't say how many games I've won because my opponent killed the GUO but lost board control in the two rounds it took to do it.

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Yeh you might just be right there tbh. I’ll try it out in a few games and see. Luckily it doesnt have to be represented so I can change it up whenever.
   
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Forgot about (and just added) the manticore lords and warshrine.

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Awesome write up, thanks a bunch for taking the time to do it! I have a quick question: in a lot of places I've noticed people mentioning stacking blight king's virulent discharge ability, however, it states that you roll for each unit within 3" of 'any' friendly units with the ability. That seems to imply in my mind that it only triggers once regardless of how many instances you have. Am i just reading this wrong, or is there an faq or something out there?
   
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Beatydubbs wrote:
Awesome write up, thanks a bunch for taking the time to do it! I have a quick question: in a lot of places I've noticed people mentioning stacking blight king's virulent discharge ability, however, it states that you roll for each unit within 3" of 'any' friendly units with the ability. That seems to imply in my mind that it only triggers once regardless of how many instances you have. Am i just reading this wrong, or is there an faq or something out there?
It was actually changed with the new battletome and I didn't notice it until recently. It is now one roll regardless of the number of blightking units.

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One more forgotten option for 'the good' section added, the Exalted GUO.

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I know I post on this page a lot. (Probably to much) All the stars aligned (mostly my wife being ok with me going randomly o_O) so I'm actually going to Adepticon!! Bringing my plaguetouched list that did well at NOVA with some updates obviously..

It's debuff list to the max at its heart. I figure If I cant out offense the stronger armies, I might as well nueter them as much as I can, bank on resilience and play the objectives.

Sloppity seems like an odd add but he has a -bravery bubble to stack with the carrion dirge to make glotkins -1 t hit horrific opponent rule go off easier and was a cheap hero for artifact holding. (Witherstave is just to good to leave off the table). Alternatively I could drop sloppity, give witherstave to harbinger, get an exalted hero of chaos to carry the dirge and add 7 mauraders (28 to 35). So I would lose the -1 bravery bubble, but gain 7 mauraders.

Also cant decide on spells so I put in the two im kicking around for glotty and bloab. blades is great on mauraders, but buboes is a great debuff. Same for plague squall and gift of contagion. I'm more inclined to keep squall here as GoC is random in its debuff.

Last thing thats sticking in my craw is the harbingers command trait. Hideous visage would be very thematic for my unholy amalgamtion of a conversion I did for a harbinger but also play well with dirge, bilepiper and glotkin. huge bravery debuff.. but I also have to get close and Im not sure if I want my harbinger that close.

ANY HELP OR COMMENTS IS APPRECIATED!!!

Harbinger of Decay (160)
- General
- Command Trait : Grandfather's Blessing
Artefact : The Carrion Dirge

The Glottkin (420)
- Lore of Malignance : Blades of Putrefaction
- Lore of Foulness : Magnificent Buboes

Bloab Rotspawned (260)
- Lore of Malignance : Gift of Contagion
- Lore of Foulness : Plague Squall

Gutrot Spume (140)

Sloppity Bilepiper (100)
- Artefact : The Witherstave

5 x Putrid Blightkings (160)

5 x Putrid Blightkings (160)

10 x Putrid Blightkings (320)

28 x Chaos Marauders (180)

-Axes & Shields
- Damned Icon
- Mark of Chaos : Nurgle

Plaguetouched Warband (100)

Total: 2000 / 2000
Wounds: 159

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