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So what's up with the number of attacks a Hellflayer, Seeker Chariot and Exhaulted Chariot should have?

Hellflayer:
A Hellflayer is a single model that attacks with its bladed axle. It is ridden by an Exalted Alluress that attacks with its piercing claws, and drawn
by two Steeds of Slaanesh that attack with their lashing tongues. Each steed is ridden by Seekers that attack with their piercing claws and lashes
of torment.

Does this mean the Hellflayer does 2D6 Lashes of torment attacks? What about the Piercing claws attacks?

Hellflayer: A5
Hellflayer: Bladed axle S8 D6
Exalted Alluress : 1 attack?
2x Steeds of Slaanesh: Lashing tongue 2 attacks each - Using Seekers profile sheet as guide
Seekers: Piercing Claws 2 attacks each - Using Seekers profile sheet as guide
Seekers: Lashes of torment? Is it 1D6 or 2D6 attacks?

So does this mean the Alluress does 1 attack and the Seekers do 2 each for the Hellflayers profile of 5? or does the Alluress do 5 Attacks and then the Seekers 4 more?

The Chariot and Cavalry keywords don't mean anything in 8E so I'm having a hard time figuring all this out. It has been this way since the Index and I've yet to find an official response from GW.

Seeker Chariot
A Seeker Chariot is a single model ridden by an Exalted Alluress and a Daemonette Charioteer that attack with their lashes of torment and
piercing claws. It is drawn by Steeds of Slaanesh that attack with their lashing tongues.

So the Daemonette Charioteer does 4 attacks with Piercing claws and the Alluress 1 following previous logic?
Does the Alluress and Daemonette Charioteer each attack with Lashes of torment? For 2D6 attacks?
Why is the wording different from the Hellflayer? The Hellflayer is drawn by two Steeds of Slaanesh whilst the other 2 chariots are drawn by Steeds of Slaanesh.

An Exalted Seeker Chariot is a single model ridden by an Exalted Alluress armed with
lashes of torment, and is crewed by three Daemonette Charioteers who attack with their piercing
claws. It is drawn into battle by Steeds of Slaanesh that attack with their lashing tongues.

So on the Exalteds Alluress only has Lashes of torment but no Piercing claws? So that's D6 attacks for the single model right?
So A8 at full Wounds. 3 riders with Piercing claws for how many attacks each?

Why is the wording different for each models? How do you calculate how many attacks the model is suppose to get? Is the attack stats for the chariot or for the riders?
The only thing that makes sense are the Steeds attacks as they are consistent with 2 attacks per steed for all 3 versions.

Skull Cannon has A2 and 2 Bloodletters that ride it, a Bloodletter has A1 so this makes sense that in combat you do 2 attacks. Why are the Slaanesh chariots so random?

Here's my interpretation:

Shooting -
2d6x Lashes

Combat -
5x Piercing Claws (combined attacks of riders and alluress)
d6x Axle
4x Tongue

Crew are just fluffbabble. The weapons it has will detail how to use them.

 BaconCatBug wrote:
Crew are just fluffbabble. The weapons it has will detail how to use them.

So for these units you ignore the standard set of rules for how a unit works because reasons? So when the model says it has 2 weapons you should ignore that and look at the weapon profile instead? That doesn't really make any sense at all?

 MadCowCrazy wrote:

 BaconCatBug wrote:
Crew are just fluffbabble. The weapons it has will detail how to use them.

So for these units you ignore the standard set of rules for how a unit works because reasons? So when the model says it has 2 weapons you should ignore that and look at the weapon profile instead? That doesn't really make any sense at all?

Because all the crew in the world doesn't stop it being a single model. It's one model with one profile.

They why mention how many are in the crew, how many and what weapons they have if it's pointless information?

That's like saying a vehicle listed with 3 lascannons can only fire 1 shot because the profile says Lascannon 48" Heavy 1 S9 -3 D6.


So using that logic a Ravager doesn't actually have 3 Dark Lances. It has the crew and guns on the model but the weapon profile says Heavy 1 so each Ravager can only shoot 1 shot each shooting phase... After all, it's one model with one profile...

 MadCowCrazy wrote:
So using that logic a Ravager doesn't actually have 3 Dark Lances. It has the crew and guns on the model but the weapon profile says Heavy 1 so each Ravager can only shoot 1 shot each shooting phase... After all, it's one model with one profile...

No, its a model with 3 weapons, so it can shoot all of them. Read the rulebook.

Also from the Index: Chaos FAQ:

Q: If a Burning Chariot takes its option to be accompanied by three Blue Horrors, does this mean I add three Blue Horror models from the Horrors datasheet and form a mixed unit?
A: No. This option is referring to the optional Blue Horror crew that come with the Burning Chariot kit and are placed on top of the chariot alongside the Exalted Flamer. If you have them, you simply get the benefits listed in the Burning Chariot’s Irritating Chant ability.

As I read it, weapons are used in the quantities specified at the top, and the Attack stat onnthe profile is the total for the whole model.

I agree the wording is clunky but it's 5 attacks with piercing claws for the 3 riders then the axle and lashing tongues.

The language is really clumsy around lashes of torment but I'm pretty sure it's just the 1d6 listed as I think it pools the "two" lashes of torment the seekers have into a single profile.

Judging by the model, I think it's the Alluress who's supposed to have a single set of lashes, as opposed to the Seekers with one each. I think RAI is 1D6, but RAW is 2D6.

ITS JUST ASSAULT D6

the profile entry is plural so the d6 is the total for all of the lashes of torment the model has.