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Are characters out of LoS immune to weapons that do not require LoS to their target?

 schadenfreude wrote:
Are characters out of LoS immune to weapons that do not require LoS to their target?

From the rulebook FAQ

Q: If I have a weapon that can target enemy units that are not visible to the firer (such as a mortar), can I shoot at an enemy Character that has a Wounds characteristic of less than 10 if it is not the closest enemy model?
A: No.

Either the RaW says no, in which case the FAQ is clarification, or the RaW says yes or is unclear, in which case the FAQ becomes a "special snowflake ignore the rules" kind of FAQ.

Either way, it's no. The Beta rules don't change that.

 BaconCatBug wrote:

 schadenfreude wrote:
Are characters out of LoS immune to weapons that do not require LoS to their target?

From the rulebook FAQ

Q: If I have a weapon that can target enemy units that are not visible to the firer (such as a mortar), can I shoot at an enemy Character that has a Wounds characteristic of less than 10 if it is not the closest enemy model?
A: No.

Either the RaW says no, in which case the FAQ is clarification, or the RaW says yes or is unclear, in which case the FAQ becomes a "special snowflake ignore the rules" kind of FAQ.

Either way, it's no. The Beta rules don't change that.

Sorry I worded that wrong. If the character is the closest model to the indirect weapon can it fire on the character if there is no LOS?

 schadenfreude wrote:

 BaconCatBug wrote:

 schadenfreude wrote:
Are characters out of LoS immune to weapons that do not require LoS to their target?

From the rulebook FAQ

Q: If I have a weapon that can target enemy units that are not visible to the firer (such as a mortar), can I shoot at an enemy Character that has a Wounds characteristic of less than 10 if it is not the closest enemy model?
A: No.

Either the RaW says no, in which case the FAQ is clarification, or the RaW says yes or is unclear, in which case the FAQ becomes a "special snowflake ignore the rules" kind of FAQ.

Either way, it's no. The Beta rules don't change that.

Sorry I worded that wrong. If the character is the closest model to the indirect weapon can it fire on the character if there is no LOS?

Yes. If it is the closest model, it can be targeted by indirect fires.

 skchsan wrote:
Yes. If it is the closest model, it can be targeted by indirect fires.

I agree. Weapons that "can target units that are not visible to the bearer" can do exactly that, even if it's a character.

"An enemy Character with a Wounds characteristic of less than 10 can only be chosen as a target in the Shooting
phase if it is both visible to the firing model and it is the closest enemy unit to the firing model. Ignore other enemy
Characters with a Wounds characteristics of less than 10 when determining if the target is the closest enemy unit to
the firing model."

Had someone try to make the case that because the character rule says the model has to be visible that takes precedent over the indirect fire rules.

 schadenfreude wrote:
"An enemy Character with a Wounds characteristic of less than 10 can only be chosen as a target in the Shooting
phase if it is both visible to the firing model and it is the closest enemy unit to the firing model. Ignore other enemy
Characters with a Wounds characteristics of less than 10 when determining if the target is the closest enemy unit to
the firing model."

Had someone try to make the case that because the character rule says the model has to be visible that takes precedent over the indirect fire rules.

The rules for normal shooting also say the target needs to be visible. By that logic no indirect fire can ever happen.

 schadenfreude wrote:
Had someone try to make the case that because the character rule says the model has to be visible that takes precedent over the indirect fire rules.

Specific trumps general.

The specific rule for a given indirect fire weapon supercedes the general rule for targeting characters.

There is no general rule for indirect fire weapons incidentally, there is no such universal special rule, only a rule printed on specific weapons.