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Pyromaniac Hellhound Pilot






Here's a competitive list with a lot of horrific fliers you'd need to play carefully to keep sammael and the talonmaster alive to keep from getting tabled, but 192 hurricane bolter shots turn 1 is pretty tasty...

Air wing
Dark talon
Dark talon
Dark talon
Dark talon
Dark talon

Auxillary
Dark talon

Battalion
Sammael
Talonmaster
Dark Talon
Dark Talon
Scouts with bolters
Scouts with bolters
Scouts with bolters
Darkshroud
Darkshroud

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Wicked Canoptek Wraith




Just keep Sammael and the talon master in the middle of the dark talons making them untargettable. I know where you got that list from, I also know you’ve got a horrendous round 1 match up on Saturday. Good luck btw
   
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Pyromaniac Hellhound Pilot






I'd been theory crafting one with 5 talonmasters and 5 dark talons and wanted to see how I'd build a dark talon heavy one, and it does come out much the same as the caledonian uprising one! For some reason I'd not noticed he was using a darkshroud. That list looks absolutely horrific to face haha.

And thanks, though I'd honestly not thought the sisters list looked like the worst match up? They've got lots of anti horde, but everything they have dies pretty quickly to las and plasma


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Wicked Canoptek Wraith




It’ll be an interesting game, but bear in mind this:
Acts of faith, his army wide one triggers on a 2+, celestine gives him a free one and the imagnifier another on a 4+. He has no uses for his CPs other than re rolls. He can fire 3 units of those retributors before his turn even starts, and re roll hit rolls of 1. Then he can fire all 4 units in the shooting phase, and he’s got his scouting immolators, with their 2d6 heavy Flamer shots. In the likelihood of him getting turn 1, after morale he’s quite likely to of killed around 100 infantry, by just spreading his firepower and letting morale do the rest.

Don’t get me wrong it’s not going to be a walk over for him by any means, but it’s not gonna be a walk over for you either, he has te firepower to table you.
   
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Pyromaniac Hellhound Pilot






Thanks for the heads up! Didn't realise sisters had BS3+ these days, so I'd not really thought the retributors would do much.

Hopefully my scouts can deny the immolators a turn of flaming my main battle line. As far as I can tell immolators don't have a scout rule though?

It's going to be an interesting game, and I think I'd underestimated that list. I'll be praying for 1st turn now!

I presume you're going to this tournament too then?

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Regular Dakkanaut




Wales,UK

 DoomMouse wrote:
Thanks for the heads up! Didn't realise sisters had BS3+ these days, so I'd not really thought the retributors would do much.

Hopefully my scouts can deny the immolators a turn of flaming my main battle line. As far as I can tell immolators don't have a scout rule though?

It's going to be an interesting game, and I think I'd underestimated that list. I'll be praying for 1st turn now!

I presume you're going to this tournament too then?


All the immolators can scout with dominions inside.

He can clear the scouts at the start of the movement phase if he rolls well with his retributors and extra faith points. He can then move/deep strike the rest of the stuff.

The firepower this list puts out early game is pretty intense.

Good luck! The guy you are playing is an excellent player but a top bloke too so you'll have a great game no matter which way it goes.

I'm going and will see you there .
   
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Pyromaniac Hellhound Pilot






ouch. that's pretty painful! It'll be good to play against a full sisters list though, even if it is a murderous one

See you there then, mysterious internet person

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Longtime Dakkanaut






DM wouldn't this list work a tad better with either a mix of..or all Fire Raptors ?

 
   
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Wicked Canoptek Wraith




Probs not for 2 reasons:
1) fire raptors cost a little over 300pts a model, whilst dark talons cost 160pts, so you getting almost 2 dark talons for 1 fire raptor
2) the darkdhroun and sammaels 're rolls only work on ravenwing, of which fire raptors are not sadly
   
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Deathwing Terminator with Assault Cannon






Why not make 2 airwing detachments with the 6 in the existing airwing and aux for additional cp?
   
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how did you make out ?

 
   
 
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