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INQUISTORS Kickstarter is now LIVE and funded

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/resinlab/inquisitors-miniatures-in-28mm-heroic-scale-resin-and-stl?




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The posing on that top model is all kinds of awful. It's like the top half is falling backwards and shooting while her bottom half is leaning or sliding forward on the skulls. Ditch the skull pile and give her a solid stance on the ground and the top half would work. Bottom one has the standard "I'M STANDING ON A ROCK!" that does nothing for me. Details on both are otherwise decent enough.
   
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I, on the other hand, really like the top model and its pose.

Model on the bottom looks like shes leaning back a little far to me in an uncomfortable way, but damn otherwise it's gorgeous.

Amazing stuff!
   
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Some more models we are working on:








   
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The Battle Barge Buffet Line

I like most of the models above especially Agnes and Ilden. The pose and to a lesser extent the sculpting choices on Gurten (the fat female commissar falling off of a pile a rocks) are not up to par with the rest though. YMMV.

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Fantastic feedback. Exactly what I need

Here some better views of Lena


   
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With respect, I would not lead with Lena, it is in my opinion the worst model you are presenting. All the other ones are pretty good, Lena just doesn't look right to me in the slightest... belly is weird and doesn't make much sense in anatomy or the folds of the cloth, the head is tiny and the overall body does not reflect any connection to the girth of the belly. Pose is a bit confused as well, the lower body has little relation to the position of the upper body, the momentum and weighting are unclear.

All the other models look pretty great, some of the faces in particular and the general anatomy look really nice. Lena looks like it is from a different company almost... Sorry to post a critical (and complimentary though!) response so soon in your thread but honestly I am saying it trying to help. Good luck!

   
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@MajorTom11 I do want critiques or I can not improve thanks for the feedback.


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First pics of the painted Lady of Decay

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Looking interesting. Happy to see a few non-skinny female figures as well

I'll follow your work with interest.

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Some good stuff here, but I will heavily agree...Gurten is well below any of the other sculpts. I would lead with something else by far.

Brave too, tackling the "not enough female miniatures" folks with fat and unattractive female options (which is completely fair as well). Good luck. I like the female farseer.
   
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Minis are nice. Is this 25mm or 32mm scale like 40K/Age of Sigmar minis? Also is this an all female line? Last question, is this your own universe or supposed to be used for 40K?

Way too much 40K vibe to be seeing this in your own universe, that is all I am asking. Nothing wrong with it, since I love the different take if it is a vibe of 40K. Except for the cornel that was mentioned, I am liking the aesthetics where this is going.

Would I buy? Not sure. I am not much of an online shopper almost always buy from Friendly Local Gaming store. So I guess it depends on price and shipping in the end if I do buy. Hope that is good constructive criticism there.

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 Aesthete wrote:
Looking interesting. Happy to see a few non-skinny female figures as well

I'll follow your work with interest.


Thx, yes were possible I will try to do something more original or different from the other. Got several other models and projects in mind, but got to start somewhere



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 Elbows wrote:
Some good stuff here, but I will heavily agree...Gurten is well below any of the other sculpts. I would lead with something else by far.

Brave too, tackling the "not enough female miniatures" folks with fat and unattractive female options (which is completely fair as well). Good luck. I like the female farseer.


Got it I still love her. Original pose was static, the sculptor just went haywire and did this pose, once printed it doesn't look bad at all on the table. She is out to be painted hopefully I may change someones idea with the actual model.

This was the original concept:


It all depends on how the KS goes I have other models coming, and static Gurten may be there


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Davor wrote:
Minis are nice. Is this 25mm or 32mm scale like 40K/Age of Sigmar minis? Also is this an all female line? Last question, is this your own universe or supposed to be used for 40K?

Way too much 40K vibe to be seeing this in your own universe, that is all I am asking. Nothing wrong with it, since I love the different take if it is a vibe of 40K. Except for the cornel that was mentioned, I am liking the aesthetics where this is going.

Would I buy? Not sure. I am not much of an online shopper almost always buy from Friendly Local Gaming store. So I guess it depends on price and shipping in the end if I do buy. Hope that is good constructive criticism there.


They are 32mm and officialy is their own universe

I will be running a KS to fund the initial production, got tons of models in mind that I will love to make in time, but need to start small to grow.
Worked 20 years making minis and now I want to make my own range.

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I have to say, I'm very much a fan of the Inquisitor and Vasiliev - fantastic work, and not overdone like most female models.

The one piece of criticism I can offer is one of personal taste I guess. I can never fathom the reason for the 'exposed' cleavage - as if they're wearing an evening dress. Since the rest of the models are fairly sensible, it seems odd that this one area, on a number of your designs, is left open. In the case of Vasilev - she's wearing a fur coat and hat - but chooses to keep that area exposed to biting frost. In the case of the Inquisitor, she's fully armoured - but leaves her chest completely open to being stabbed or shot.

Aside from that particular design choice - I can't fault them. Nice aesthetics, not overdone and well detailed without being fussy.

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The static Lena art looks much better. If you want an action pose, maybe have her lunging forward instead of falling backwards? Agnes is my favorite so far.

How much will each mini cost and what material will you cast them in?


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Oh yeah, and please complete her chest armor.

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 Warpig1815 wrote:
I have to say, I'm very much a fan of the Inquisitor and Vasiliev - fantastic work, and not overdone like most female models.

The one piece of criticism I can offer is one of personal taste I guess. I can never fathom the reason for the 'exposed' cleavage - as if they're wearing an evening dress. Since the rest of the models are fairly sensible, it seems odd that this one area, on a number of your designs, is left open. In the case of Vasilev - she's wearing a fur coat and hat - but chooses to keep that area exposed to biting frost. In the case of the Inquisitor, she's fully armoured - but leaves her chest completely open to being stabbed or shot.

Aside from that particular design choice - I can't fault them. Nice aesthetics, not overdone and well detailed without being fussy.


Any critique is more than welcome I can only improve from them if they are constructive like yours. I started with static models, I had to get the correct proportions first. What you see as a 3D model is not what you get delivered.
Then many objected that they were a bit to static, and I realized they were correct, so started looking at more dynamic poses. Gurten was my sculptor first approach and we looked for something never seen before


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 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
The static Lena art looks much better. If you want an action pose, maybe have her lunging forward instead of falling backwards? Agnes is my favorite so far.

How much will each mini cost and what material will you cast them in?


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Oh yeah, and please complete her chest armor.


You can look at the KS page while I am updating it. Doing my best not being a pro but currently based on a minimum goal with an EB of 60$ you may get 12 models of the ones unlocked. That will be about 52% off retail.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/heresylab2/991329828?ref=420260&token=acffa58b

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While the designs and actual models are good, the poses really let them down. The only ones who aren't just standing doing nothing are the ones afflicted with that old curse of "one foot on a rock/skull/etc", which is never good.

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
Oh yeah, and please complete her chest armor.


This, please! I like Agnes a lot, but the bare chest just spoils her. I can tolerate a certain amount of boob armour, but that's just being silly.

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These look amazing. I would love to see you guys do a model that looks like Adrastia from DoW 2, I think you guys could really do the concept justice.
   
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The proportions on Cataryna are way off - wide shoulders and thick arms with very thin midriff, hips and legs. Contrast with Viktoria, who is consistently proportioned.

Also, the coat on Lena is just bad. Coats don't show off rolls of fat, they conceal them, especially if she's wearing chest armor beneath the coat. She should just be barrel chested with all the fat and armor under the coat.

   
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Wouldn't it be either "Lady of Decay" or "Matron of Decay"?

And while I don't have any issue with differing body morphology, Lena's Greatcoat just does not fall naturally. The cinch at the waist (belt?) just looks odd.

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One less obvious little problem with Lena is that it looks like her cigar has been modeled over the shape of her lips, rather than having her lips around it.

   
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Some nice models, but, yeah, Lena has some problems w/ pose/detail.

Re: the greatcoat, I believe it's because they're using the greatcoat belt like a regular belt. In my experience, no one would tighten a coat's belt that tight: they're designed to hold your coat closed, not to be so tight as to be form-fitting, like that.


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Echoing the others, I almost closed the page after seeing Lena. The model that I am most interested in is Agnes, but the bustier with the skulls is a bit off-putting.

Anyhow, the cornerstone of product management is to make products that people actually want. Singleton characters are cool, but without troops, most of the hardcore whales aren't going to shell out. So definitely consider that. I definitely would also consider moving aggressively in the areas where GW is falling short. Resin Sisters, Arbites, exotic Guardsmen, and Squats equivalents in addition to the usual space elves and space marines. Competitive players are also going to want to kitbash to get that 50% GW threshold, so making the troop models 28mm scale and compatible with Skitarii, Guardsmen, or Space Marine parts would make them super appealing. Outfits like Anvil have pretty much made an entire business out of this.

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Nice stuff - I think the Commisar's main issue the pose. Fix that and I would totally buy her for variety.
   
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but you can sell characters at a price that is reasonable compared to a major manufacturers prices (eg GW) so people may buy them

but selling unit models for a price that isn't more than major maufacturers prices in a box set is a lot trickier and a lot of folk are price driven especially for rank and file

 
   
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I love these designs and would greatly enjoy picking several of these up.

I do, however agree with several others - I like the more static pose for Lena than the current 3D model. Perhaps with a (single) skull under one foot. Also would be great option if the (left) arm could be replaced with a gauntlet, giving a more commanding pose as if giving orders rather than leaping into the fray.

Will this miniatures be available after the KS? Unfortunately, I had a poor experience with KS and won't participate in KS's any more, but am more than willing to buy them direct/retail once produced.

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A ton of great feedback and constructive critiques. Thanks

@Stormnu - I understand you got burned once also for over 500$. This is why I am going slow and keeping the KS small to make sure to deliver high quality and in time. I ran several other KS as a collaborator or co-owner and all got delivered. I admit a few delayed several months cause we had some unexpected issues. This is why I am not basing the whole KS on concepts and 3d models, but I am getting them printed and painted were possible.




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 Stormonu wrote:
I love these designs and would greatly enjoy picking several of these up.

I do, however agree with several others - I like the more static pose for Lena than the current 3D model. Perhaps with a (single) skull under one foot. Also would be great option if the (left) arm could be replaced with a gauntlet, giving a more commanding pose as if giving orders rather than leaping into the fray.

Will this miniatures be available after the KS? Unfortunately, I had a poor experience with KS and won't participate in KS's any more, but am more than willing to buy them direct/retail once produced.


And just got another painted example of an actual model to prove that I wasn't kidding

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Some really nice concept models here - well done.

Love the Lady of Decay and the Inquisitors / Sisters - what sort of price per model are you looking at?

Re the Fat Commissar - maybe consider a grav chair, or throne, or being carried by minions

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 Mr Morden wrote:
Some really nice concept models here - well done.

Love the Lady of Decay and the Inquisitors / Sisters - what sort of price per model are you looking at?

Re the Fat Commissar - maybe consider a grav chair, or throne, or being carried by minions


Hmm nice idea for a future model... interesting.

As prices you can look at the KS page I am working on now.
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/heresylab2/991329828?ref=420260&token=acffa58b

But with the EB for 10 models if unlocked you will get 12 models for 60$ that is over 50% off retail and 5$ a piece. I believe for characters is not bad at all.

And again if too pricey or you find something that can be improved I am open to suggestions...

   
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HeresyLab wrote:
 Mr Morden wrote:
Some really nice concept models here - well done.

Love the Lady of Decay and the Inquisitors / Sisters - what sort of price per model are you looking at?

Re the Fat Commissar - maybe consider a grav chair, or throne, or being carried by minions


Hmm nice idea for a future model... interesting.

As prices you can look at the KS page I am working on now.
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/heresylab2/991329828?ref=420260&token=acffa58b

But with the EB for 10 models if unlocked you will get 12 models for 60$ that is over 50% off retail and 5$ a piece. I believe for characters is not bad at all.

And again if too pricey or you find something that can be improved I am open to suggestions...


Price seems fine - will you have a EU partner cos Shipping can be an issue

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"I will admit that some Primachs like Russ or Horus could have a chance against an unarmed 12 year old novice but, a full Battle Sister??!! One to one? In close combat? Perhaps three Primarchs fighting together... but just one Primarch?" da001

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HeresyLab wrote:
Fantastic feedback. Exactly what I need

Here some better views of Lena



The round the miniatures picture confirm the utter fail.

i don't mind the idea of a fat female miniature. In fact its a breath of fresh air from the supermodels and porno-plate so often seen. Plus size girls can get guns too.
The pose however needs to be completely reworked. And skulls, really? Keep the skulls separate, if people want to put minis on skullpiles GW has the Skulls pack to help out.
I think the original artwork for Gurten worked, being a fat female commissar is her point of uniqueness. I would give her arm variants frankly. An alt-right arm with sword and an alt-left arm with codex.

Also what do the large umbilical cables do? they don't power a power fist, and they don't power the gun. I would rethink them separate arms could have the cables as warranted, thus making the cabled guns powered energy weapons, and possibly including a power fist arm variant.

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