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i want to try a major deepstriking force cause i noted that my marines lack mobility..

so here we go:


++ Battalion Detachment +3CP (Imperium - Space Marines) [44 PL, 729pts] ++

+ Dedicated Transport +

Drop Pod [5 PL, 85pts]: Storm bolter

+ HQ +

Captain [5 PL, 77pts]: Chainsword, Master-crafted boltgun

Lieutenants [4 PL, 63pts]
. Lieutenant: Chainsword, Master-crafted boltgun

+ Fast Attack +

Assault Squad [5 PL, 86pts]
. 4x Space Marine
. Space Marine Sergeant: Bolt pistol, Combat shield, Melta bombs, Power fist

Inceptor Squad [10 PL, 135pts]: Assault bolter, 2x Inceptor, Inceptor Sergeant

+ Troops +

Intercessor Squad [5 PL, 91pts]: Auxiliary Grenade Launcher, Bolt rifle, 4x Intercessor, Intercessor Sergeant

Intercessor Squad [5 PL, 91pts]: Auxiliary Grenade Launcher, Bolt rifle, 4x Intercessor, Intercessor Sergeant

Tactical Squad [5 PL, 101pts]
. 3x Space Marine
. Space Marine Sergeant: Bolt pistol, Combi-melta
. Space Marine w/Special Weapon: Meltagun

++ Spearhead Detachment +1CP (Imperium - Space Marines) [29 PL, 563pts] ++

+ Heavy Support +

Devastator Squad [8 PL, 165pts]
. Space Marine Sergeant: Boltgun
. Space Marine w/Heavy Weapon: Missile launcher
. Space Marine w/Heavy Weapon: Missile launcher
. Space Marine w/Heavy Weapon: Lascannon
. Space Marine w/Heavy Weapon: Lascannon

Devastator Squad [8 PL, 140pts]
. Space Marine
. Space Marine Sergeant: Boltgun
. Space Marine w/Heavy Weapon: Missile launcher
. Space Marine w/Heavy Weapon: Missile launcher
. Space Marine w/Heavy Weapon: Missile launcher

Hellblaster Squad [8 PL, 165pts]: Plasma incinerator
. 4x Hellblaster
. Hellblaster Sergeant: Bolt pistol

+ HQ +

Captain [5 PL, 93pts]: Chainsword, Combi-melta

++ Vanguard Detachment +1CP (Imperium - Space Marines) [38 PL, 705pts] ++

+ HQ +

Chaplain [6 PL, 90pts]: Bolt pistol, Jump Pack

+ Elites +

Terminator Assault Squad [12 PL, 217pts]: Teleport Homer
. Terminator Sergeant
. . Thunder Hammer & Storm Shield: Storm shield, Thunder hammer
. 2x Terminator w/THSS: 2x Storm shield, 2x Thunder hammer
. 2x Terminator w/x2LC: 2x Lightning Claw (Pair)

Terminator Squad [12 PL, 242pts]: Teleport Homer
. Terminator Sergeant: Power sword, Storm bolter
. Terminator w/Heavy Weapon: Power fist
. . Cyclone Missile Launcher and Storm Bolter: Cyclone missile launcher, Storm bolter
. 3x Terminator w/PF: 3x Power fist, 3x Storm bolter

Vanguard Veteran Squad [8 PL, 156pts]: Jump Pack
. Space Marine Veteran: Bolt Pistol & Chainsword
. Space Marine Veteran: Storm shield, Thunder hammer
. Space Marine Veteran: 2x Lightning Claw
. Space Marine Veteran: 2x Lightning Claw
. Veteran Sergeant: Storm shield, Thunder hammer

++ Total: [111 PL, 1997pts] ++

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I will be using ultramarines tactics and the thought is that i am keeping a strong fire base at my zone and creating a deep-striking fire base anywhere in the enemy's zone


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Chapter master will be coming out from the drop pod with lieutenant and the tacticals...so ill will have 4 melta-combi melta rerolling everything to hit and 1's to wound

You might instead consider running 2 squads of multimelta devastators in the pod and giving the Capt and Lt. jump packs to deep strike with them, 8 MM that get to reroll

1. Hellblaster units all have bolt pistols and plasma incinerators, you can't skip the SGT and so your points are a bit off there. Also, what flavor of plasma incinerator are you using?
2. Who's going in the Drop Pod under normal circumstances?
3. Vanguard with Lightning claws are a bit of a waste; the reroll to wound rarely matters as much as the 3 AP from a power sword (especially if you're bundling the LT in the pod to throw at people), and you could fit them with storm shields with the saved points. I personally use Power Sword/Plasma pistol as it maxes the return on investment per model, but i'm a plasma junky.
3.a Vanguard grunts with thunderhammers are not recommended. On the SGT it's efficient but you're only getting 2 attacks for the exact same price on the grunts.
4. Where's your relic?

KaoxVeed wrote:
You might instead consider running 2 squads of multimelta devastators in the pod and giving the Capt and Lt. jump packs to deep strike with them, 8 MM that get to reroll

I have been trying this and while it's REALLY nice, it's such a huge investment that I wouldn't recommend it unless the army is built around capitalising on it, unlike this one which is leaning more on termies .

 malamis wrote:
1. Hellblaster units all have bolt pistols and plasma incinerators, you can't skip the SGT and so your points are a bit off there. Also, what flavor of plasma incinerator are you using?
2. Who's going in the Drop Pod under normal circumstances?
3. Vanguard with Lightning claws are a bit of a waste; the reroll to wound rarely matters as much as the 3 AP from a power sword (especially if you're bundling the LT in the pod to throw at people), and you could fit them with storm shields with the saved points. I personally use Power Sword/Plasma pistol as it maxes the return on investment per model, but i'm a plasma junky.
3.a Vanguard grunts with thunderhammers are not recommended. On the SGT it's efficient but you're only getting 2 attacks for the exact same price on the grunts.
4. Where's your relic?

KaoxVeed wrote:
You might instead consider running 2 squads of multimelta devastators in the pod and giving the Capt and Lt. jump packs to deep strike with them, 8 MM that get to reroll

I have been trying this and while it's REALLY nice, it's such a huge investment that I wouldn't recommend it unless the army is built around capitalising on it, unlike this one which is leaning more on termies .

Well actually i am using for the first time vanguards so i am new with them...you suggest power-swords on all of them? as i said in the drop pod there will be the chapter master the lieutenant and the tacticals with melta and combi melta (was thinking of 8 veterans all with combi meltas but i dont want to go so expansive.

Missed the 'auto added to post bit' >.<

In which case you're possibly mismatched; 50% of your army has to deploy, meaning your ASM might have to start on the table.

Regarding Vanguard PSwords; if you're buying a new kit, it should be straightforward enough to pin them (if you don't want to try magnets) to try them out in combination - from memory there should be enough power swords to go around and if not the tac and ASM sprues should cover it.

Before I tried the double melta dev pods, I was doing Capt + Dpod combi plasma - Not as effective as I would have liked sadly. Melta (not mmelta) would probably fare even worse overall until you get within 6"; they're just so squishy...

Dont worry my friend i have weapons!....what about power axes? no?

also what is that rule you say about 50% of my units have to deploy normaly? i dont know about that

BRB page 215 - Tactical Reserves (matched play)
This means you have to have at least half of your army set up on the battlefield

It doesn't completely cripple deep strike armies as characters and 2 model units are perfectly valid, and you can put them all in a transport (Bastion) to preserve deployment advantage, but it does mean you have to keep track on what deep strikes and what doesn't.

I'm a bit iffy about power axes vs power swords, but no harm in trying them

i see..thanks for the heads up... but i can put tacticals and 2 characters inside the drop pod so it counts as 1 unit in deployment..right?

Food for thought: raven guard chapter master allows rerolling failed charges for jump pack units within 6 inches. Also if you charge with the shrike the enemy can not fire overwatch. Page 199 warlord trait silent strike. So you won't loose as many models to snap fire. It will be cheaper to use jamp pack assault marines and vaguards than terminators. I love my terminators, but they just don't see worth it for attacking. You could also give the lieutenant a jump pack and then you save the point on the drop pod.

Dwro1234 wrote:
Food for thought: raven guard chapter master allows rerolling failed charges for jump pack units within 6 inches. Also if you charge with the shrike the enemy can not fire overwatch. Page 199 warlord trait silent strike. So you won't loose as many models to snap fire. It will be cheaper to use jamp pack assault marines and vaguards than terminators. I love my terminators, but they just don't see worth it for attacking. You could also give the lieutenant a jump pack and then you save the point on the drop pod.

thanks for your tips mate... i found out that my assault terminators never manage to get in close combat indeed ^^ but they soack up lots of shooting! i was using drop pod for the meltas...even out of melta range they ruin enemy characters!