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Davor wrote:
I agree, the Lord of the Rings are the best ruleset that GW ever put out. I guess The Hobbit is the same since not much has changed except for how an army if built. Other than that I think most of the rules are still the same. Far superior rule set. Surprised how many people don't want to use them.

Same army building rules using warbands. The main differences between 4th edition (big blue LOTR book) and 5th (Hobbit book) are an upgrade to monsters, new special strikes, and a debuff of shooting. Oh, and excellent updates to Might usage.

Gundabad Ogres! up for preorder: https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-GB/The-Hobbit-Trilogy?N=102584+3252425321&_requestid=5882014



They are on 50mm round bases, roughly the size of a Mordor Troll Chieftain. So slightly more expensive than metal. Thankfully I only need two

Sculpt is good enough to redeem the horrible Warcraft design

Have the Hobbit series dwarves with spears and shields come out yet?

 lord marcus wrote:
Have the Hobbit series dwarves with spears and shields come out yet?

Yes, all that is available on the forgeworld website. Only thing yet to be released are the goat riders

jSewell wrote:

 lord marcus wrote:
Have the Hobbit series dwarves with spears and shields come out yet?

Yes, all that is available on the forgeworld website. Only thing yet to be released are the goat riders

Going stir crazy waiting for those beautiful bastards to release.

The main issue I have with the Hobbit is not so much the films but the godawful creature designs and the art design oveall is inferior to lotor.

Hobbit creature designs seems to have all started with lumps of unformed clay and not progressed much further. The goblins are god awful and the ogres are a massive step backwards as well.

As such GW are making perfect copies of some of the worst designs I have ever seen. It is like a full range of Pumbagores I feel like scrubing my eyes whenever I see Hobbit minatures.

I cannot be the only one as there still selling ltd edition starters from about 5 years ago.

Starter set is Nice but quite useless for "real gaming". Quite expensive - and You get lot of dwarf Heroes rarely used, not very usable scenery... al least a lot of goblin and goblin King IF you use goblin army. At least you get an useful handbook - easy to transport.
In sum it is great for hobby but not so good for gaming and that'she why I think it sold badly.
But - Ogres apart - creatures design is very good for me.

They should start doing Start Collecting boxes with discounts like 40K and Age of Sigmar. Command blister + one pack of Infantry + a pack of cavalry for..£50- £60?

e.g.

Minis Tirith. £60
2 boxes of 12 warriors
1 box of 6 Knights.
1 blister of MT Commanders.

The Command blister is effectively discounted by 50%, £12 off.

 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:
They should start doing Start Collecting boxes with discounts like 40K and Age of Sigmar. Command blister + one pack of Infantry + a pack of cavalry for..£50- £60?

e.g.

Minis Tirith. £60
2 boxes of 12 warriors
1 box of 6 Knights.
1 blister of MT Commanders.

The Command blister is effectively discounted by 50%, £12 off.

Throw in a faction book as well, to make it a one stop for an army start. Never understood why they don't do that.

SeanDrake wrote:
The main issue I have with the Hobbit is not so much the films but the godawful creature designs and the art design oveall is inferior to lotor.

Hobbit creature designs seems to have all started with lumps of unformed clay and not progressed much further. The goblins are god awful and the ogres are a massive step backwards as well.

As such GW are making perfect copies of some of the worst designs I have ever seen. It is like a full range of Pumbagores I feel like scrubing my eyes whenever I see Hobbit minatures.

I disagree, Iron Hills Dwarves are my fav dwarf designs from anything, ever, and Gundabad & Dol Guldur orcs are fantastic, Mirkwood Elves (infantry and palace guard) are also my favorite design of Elves, ever. And the Dale/Esgaroth infantry are some of the best "human faction" designs.
But I suppose that's why I've spend at least a thousand bucks on Hobbit minis, so I'm more than making up for your lack of taste


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 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:
They should start doing Start Collecting boxes with discounts like 40K and Age of Sigmar. Command blister + one pack of Infantry + a pack of cavalry for..£50- £60?

e.g.

Minis Tirith. £60
2 boxes of 12 warriors
1 box of 6 Knights.
1 blister of MT Commanders.

The Command blister is effectively discounted by 50%, £12 off.

They did those, many years ago.


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jSewell wrote:

 lord marcus wrote:
Have the Hobbit series dwarves with spears and shields come out yet?

Yes, all that is available on the forgeworld website. Only thing yet to be released are the goat riders

And Crossbowmen, due in February.


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Johanxp wrote:
Starter set is Nice but quite useless for "real gaming".

Oddly enough, there's a huge amount of SBG players that play SBG for scenarios. SBG was written and has always been primarily for scenario play - the points systems and warbands systems were tacked on, and competitive / points-match play has always been a secondary consideration for the system. The LOTR journeybooks are fantastic, allowing you to play through all the films as well as scenarios from the books, and the Hobbit starter plus There and Back Again gives you 20-something scenarios to play through the Hobbit films.

There and Back again manual available again!

They did those, many years ago.

And they should do them again.

But that pre-dates the "Start Collecting" initiative that they started with 40K and Age of Sigmar. Discounted army boxes/bundles have proved to be very popular for those games, so it boggles my mind that they won't do the same with the SBG.

I imagine it's something to do with not wanting to mix Finecast and plastic in a box (it happens, but rarely and not recently). LotR doesn't have any plastic heroes, so it wouldn't really be the 'start' of anything. I think all the SC sets are playable out of the box without any conversion needed.

 Paradigm wrote:
I imagine it's something to do with not wanting to mix Finecast and plastic in a box (it happens, but rarely and not recently). LotR doesn't have any plastic heroes, so it wouldn't really be the 'start' of anything. I think all the SC sets are playable out of the box without any conversion needed.

It does actually.

LOTR has the plastic Fellowship from the Mines of Moria box. And theres at least Legolas and Tauriel for The Hobbit.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/02/17/the-hobbit-motion-picture-trilogy-there-and-back-again-faq/

new FAQ

Goat Riders and Amon Sul are up on FW. Pre-order, released on the 24th (a week today!).

£225 for Amon Sul.

£45 for three goat riders.

I am a model of restraint... how are those Unreleased Minis goat riders anyway?

WEATHERTOP IS BACK!



https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-US/The-Ruined-Watchtower-of-Amon-Sul-at-Weathertop

Previously out of production and selling for upwards of $1000, it's now available for a much more reasonable £255 (~$320)

 judgedoug wrote:
WEATHERTOP IS BACK!



https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-US/The-Ruined-Watchtower-of-Amon-Sul-at-Weathertop

Previously out of production and selling for upwards of $1000, it's now available for a much more reasonable £255 (~$320)

It is really nice, I still remember WD article on building the while Weathertop board. That said from a gaming perspective I'll probably just grab Dragons Don't Share from Reaper. ~$70 And I'll have a leftover dragon and adventuring party. Not as accurate to the films but more than adequate.

 Dawnbringer wrote:

 judgedoug wrote:
WEATHERTOP IS BACK!



https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-US/The-Ruined-Watchtower-of-Amon-Sul-at-Weathertop

Previously out of production and selling for upwards of $1000, it's now available for a much more reasonable £255 (~$320)

It is really nice, I still remember WD article on building the while Weathertop board. That said from a gaming perspective I'll probably just grab Dragons Don't Share from Reaper. ~$70 And I'll have a leftover dragon and adventuring party. Not as accurate to the films but more than adequate.

And to be fair, the films aren't exactly accurate to the books!

 Dawnbringer wrote:

It is really nice, I still remember WD article on building the while Weathertop board. That said from a gaming perspective I'll probably just grab Dragons Don't Share from Reaper. ~$70 And I'll have a leftover dragon and adventuring party. Not as accurate to the films but more than adequate.

Sure, the official kit is for people who want that specific kit that is accurate to the films without having to spend the effort doing it themselves. It definitely looks fantastic and I'm going to attempt to get it myself at some point in the next few months. I have the Ziterdes version which is nice but the FW just blows it out of the water.

From Bilbo Braggings on Twitter. The stuff forgeworld has been putting out for this game recently has been very impressive. If only it wasn't so expensive.

The model looks great, but the massive antlers look odd. Maybe if viewed from another angle it'll look better.

There were more too:

That Thranduil is pretty stunning.

Gotta say I LOVE the LOTR/Hobbit trolls. Particularly the armoured guys. So much awesome . Thranduil is pretty great too. Though, I don't remember him doing much on his moose in the films. Other than being a douche, and leaving the dwarfs to die!

Some great new miniatures! Fantastic to see this range getting some new love and some brilliant new content!

Thranduil rode around on the elk pretty much the whole time in Battle of Five Armies and murdered a pile of orcs while riding it. At least in the Extended Edition. I haven't seen the Theatrical cut.

This is becoming more and more like Warhammer...

In what way exactly?