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 Fango wrote:
Am I the only one jonesing to build 3D versions of the terrain art on the boards? I tried to think of a good way to do this while still making it playable...but its just not worth the effort to build it up and then paint hexes all over it....but, this wont stop me from making Shadespire inspired terrain for use in AoS! I already cant wait to see more expansions with more board sections.

Also, any leaked images of the Skaven warband yet?

I'm planning on doing 3D terrain hexes for the blocked hexes with the thick white lines around them, otherwise we will keep forgetting and move through them (I've done this with other games with impassable squares)

 rybackstun wrote:
Played three games today, HIGHLY enjoyed each one.

Can't wait for ORKS! Gotta figure out if I'm Mork or Gork tho =/

Got to try out a game my self.

tons of fun.

Confusion is BS

cant wait for skavens.
i might even pick up undead.

from faeit


dice for each band : /

17.50 is not that bad is it? :-)

They definitely got the pricing right with this game. It's low enough that everything but the starter set could be an impulse buy or a reasonable gift.

Funny enough, I think the specialty dice might be the most important release up there. It's still kind of a problem that you can't play the game without owning almost all of it, but the dice being sold separately really helps with that.

Not really that different from X-Wing. There you need at least one start set so you've got the movement templates.

After playing it, and how fun and... at least at first sight balanced it was... who has done the rules for this game, and why can't he do the ones for Warhammer40k?

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Not really that different from X-Wing. There you need at least one start set so you've got the movement templates.

Yeah, but in X-Wing there's still value in a partial core set (to the point where most people just bought 2 to start). If you only want to play one side, its pretty easy to trade your spare X-Wing for a couple TIEs. Here, if you don't want to play Khorne or Stormcast, there's really no way to use those models to help someone else play since they still need stuff they can essentially only get via the set that gets you those models and they're all unique. It's not a HUGE deal by any means, but dice packs definitely make splitting a starter a viable path for someone.

If they do bring out more board sections, I do hope they comsider adding trap cards akin to the additional Shardfall ones. When coupled with specific hex types (say, next to standing pillars, covered in debris, etc), that could really make arenas interesting.

Clockpunk wrote:
If they do bring out more board sections, I do hope they comsider adding trap cards akin to the additional Shardfall ones. When coupled with specific hex types (say, next to standing pillars, covered in debris, etc), that could really make arenas interesting.

Trap cards could have interesting implications, imagine knocking enemies back a space into a trap. Knowing that your opponent could have trap ploys and then knock you into them could cause players to change their strategy or become real conservative with their movements.

A trap could be a reasonable upgrade card.


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So I see all the cards in the base sett and in the two upcomming faction exspansions all follow the numbering tp 437. For instance Great Fortitide is nuber 389. I doubt there are 389 cards in the base sett, so I assume that there will be 437 cards total in the first wave of exspansion, or if this is it, in the entire game.

Shouldn't the name and OP of this thread maybe be updated? The skellies have been announced a long time now, and the newest piece of information is the new sleeves, dice etc. Just a though.

Speaking of the sleeves, I had a chance to see the Khorne and Stormcast sleeves when I played on Sunday. I am not a fan unfortunately. First off I prefer matt sleeves. I think the shiny ones reflect too much and don't feel good. Also, they don't really fit too well. My opponent had the cards sticking out a little bit outside the sleeves on the top, which is not OK.

I really like Ultra Pros matt sleeves, and I am planning on getting different colours for the different warbands (blue for Stormcasts, red for Khorne, green of the Ironjawz etc).

The only real upside I can see with the official sleeves are that they have different back-sides for the objective and power cards. Using ultra pro sleeves I will have to keep them separate and know which is which during the game. This was no issue when I played this Sunday, but it could get confusing I guess.

All in all, not a fan of the sleeves, so I won't be getting those. The dice could be fun though, I wanna see those.

Yeah I didn't like the sleeve either. Pretty disappoint they could not give more than 20 power card sleeves. In case you want more than 20 cards, or make a "side deck" to switch out some cards.

Are the cards MTG size, or do we need custom card sleeves?

Ultra Pro sleeves work great, so I assume they are the same size as MTG.

Does anyone know the quality of the sleeves GW has made for the cards? Are they decent or going to fall to pieces after a few shuffles?

 alleus wrote:
Ultra Pro sleeves work great, so I assume they are the same size as MTG.

That's brilliant. I didn't want to buy the game until I could protect the cards.

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
Does anyone know the quality of the sleeves GW has made for the cards? Are they decent or going to fall to pieces after a few shuffles?

The quality seems fine, but like I wrote above I don't like them for different reasons. Mostly because they are not matte, and they seem a little too small for the cards. At least the ones my friend used when I played him seemed to small. The sleeves are also pretty expensive. Twice as much as Ultra Pro sleeves. Still not much, but if that matters to you, there you go.

Sleeved my set last night, they fit just fine, no over hang for me.

xerxeshavelock wrote:

 alleus wrote:
Ultra Pro sleeves work great, so I assume they are the same size as MTG.

That's brilliant. I didn't want to buy the game until I could protect the cards.

I slapped all of mine into Dragon Shield perfect fit sleeves, and they fit, well, perfectly.

The first Shadespire tournament at blood and glory has sold out at 64 players and so has been expanded to 100 players. It is a good early sign of the popularity of this game.

The sleeves seem fine to me, I sleeved my stormcast deck earlier. The fit is tight though and you have to add pressure and push them to the very bottom otherwise the top end of the card will not be concealed. They are slightly smaller than the FFG comparable card sleeves.

Finally got my kit in last night. No trouble getting the cards to fit in the sleeves, though Thargrim is right. It is a somewhat tight fit (giggity), but that's what I want in a card sleeve.

tbh, if people really don't want the starter set, I'm sure that people can make their own cheap hex boards by just copying the layout of the current boards. Then, cut out your own tokens out of slips of paper and then get these separate dice. It'd be a little bit of work, but relatively easy to do and it'd save a lot of money.

Now, could you go to a tournament hosted by GW with your own board and tokens? My guess is no...

X-Wing's latest errata/FAQ seems to be proving divisive. Wonder if that'll help Shadespire spread any?

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
X-Wing's latest errata/FAQ seems to be proving divisive. Wonder if that'll help Shadespire spread any?

Saw that. Seemed like a really dumb thing to do when direct competition is released by a rival company.

All depends on how reliant people's fleets are on the stuff that just got errata.

I'm not up on my X-Wing, so I've no clue myself.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
X-Wing's latest errata/FAQ seems to be proving divisive. Wonder if that'll help Shadespire spread any?

I hope so, X wing has become like a bloated mess. But the thing is I can't say how many people buy X wing cause its Star Wars, or because it is or was at one point a good game. X wing and Shadespire share some similarities with cards/stats, dice with symbols and how damage is allocated but they are still different. A lot of FFGs fanbase are also whining about legion not being pre painted, so Shadespire definitely won't appeal to those folks who either. I think a fair amount of X wing players are not into the assembly and hobby aspect of gaming.

But if you ask me Shadespire has a bright future ahead if GW treats it with care. It's getting mostly positive reviews and compared to some other GW products it is priced within reason.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
X-Wing's latest errata/FAQ seems to be proving divisive. Wonder if that'll help Shadespire spread any?

EVERY X-Wing FAQ is divisive for a brief period of time until a new meta shakes out. Net listers don't like it when their generally overpowered net list has to change. Once they figure out what the new top tier combo is, they'll buy it and stop grumping (until the next FAQ forces them to change again).

I would also imagine that the average X-Wing player who doesn't currently play Warhammer probably has no idea what Shadespire is. GW may be the big fish in a little pond, but Shadespire is itself an aspiring gold fish compared to X-Wing's great white shark.


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 Thargrim wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
X-Wing's latest errata/FAQ seems to be proving divisive. Wonder if that'll help Shadespire spread any?

I hope so, X wing has become like a bloated mess. But the thing is I can't say how many people buy X wing cause its Star Wars, or because it is or was at one point a good game. X wing and Shadespire share some similarities with cards/stats, dice with symbols and how damage is allocated but they are still different. A lot of FFGs fanbase are also whining about legion not being pre painted, so Shadespire definitely won't appeal to those folks who either. I think a fair amount of X wing players are not into the assembly and hobby aspect of gaming.

But if you ask me Shadespire has a bright future ahead if GW treats it with care. It's getting mostly positive reviews and compared to some other GW products it is priced within reason.

To be fair, only a very small amount of forum posters are complaining about Legion not being pre-painted. Most are complaining that it's not out yet. I do agree though. Shadespire won't appeal to people who aren't interested in assembling or painting models. The game is somewhat ugly with bare plastic.